Splitting CA in 3

you do realize that this would make it more electorally (and congressionally) powerful right?

You do realize that the biggest reason for wanting to do this is so the HUGE red part of that state gets a voice, right?  All of my wife's family live's there, and it's where she was born and raised......they're sick of the liberal politics of their state and some of them are very involved in the initiative.

well that would depend how you split it

the same can be said in red states like texas, have you seen the lines around austin

Do you guys not understand that this entire initiative is to give conservatives in the state a voice??

they would not still have 55, you get an electoral vote for each congressional seat, that means there would be at least a total of 59.  There may in fact be up to 3 more depending on the districting as the districts in california have more people in them than small population states.  the electoral college favors the conservative party at this point, if you look at straight population distribution (or the popular vote) the democrats would have won 4 of the last 5 elections instead of 2.

Hell, I'm for splitting the entire country up.  The more contentious this all gets the more I realize I have very little in common with liberals anymore.  I'd just as soon not have to listen to any of it. 

I would bet a large sum of money that this will never happen, but the reason for doing it is most definitely to aid the red part of the state of CA.  Geographically, CA is far redder than it is blue, but population wise it's far more blue due to LA, San Fran, San Diego, etc.
As was mentioned it would give 4 additional senators and they would quite likely be more GOP than DNC, but as mentioned it depends where the lines are drawn.  Pretty much everything I've seen is most definitely drawing the lines very red though.
As for the House of Representatives, it likely wouldn't change a ton because there are already GOP congressman from the CA red areas.  Gerrymandering may create a few more blue than there should be, so could be a slight shift, but likely not significant.

yeah lets gerrymander more in favor of the GOP, because we havent done that enough.

LOL - dude, you were fine when you thought it would give even more electoral votes to the dems.  It's the people of California who want this.....not either political party.  You don't get a say in it unless you decide to move out there.

If the people of California get the final say in how their state is split up, then I'd have to assume the result would be three heavily gerrymandered blue states. Maybe two blue and a purple.  Same result if their politicians pick the boundaries, or the courts all the way up to the 9th Circuit. 

Worst case scenario for the Dems, two solid blue states (one controlled by the San Diego/LA area and one by San Fran/San Jose) and a solid red state up on the north side. If I'm the DNC, I'd take that in a heartbeat. Give up a half dozen electoral college votes in exchange for gaining two more Senate votes? That's a no brainer. 

I've got to say this.....I don't want to get along anymore.  I'm tired of it.  Like I said, it's gotten to the point where I have very little, if anything, in common with the left, and I'm tired of playing defense.  My new game plan is to not give a single inch on any liberal issue.  I don't see us "getting along" and I only see the division getting wider.  Let's get on with it.  It'll either happen with both sides agreeing to part ways, or there will be a civil war for this country.......I just can't see another way out of it.

Yep, they've had enough too.

Interesting that I don't see any blue areas that I even care about visiting.

You do realize that the GOP doesn't have a monopoly on gerrymandering right.  I don't like it when anybody does it, but for some reason liberals like to pretend that only conservatives gerrymander.  Another interesting form of gerrymandering is the whole non-citizens and the census.  The Democrats are fighting like crazy to keep the "are you a citizen" question off of the census because the total population numbers are what determines congressional seats per state.  California easily has 4 or 5 more house seats due to the 2M plus illegals in the state.  If they're counted as non-citizens then CA will lose congressional seats...

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