Other Resources My Cup of Joe » serious issue Rss Feed  
Moderators: k9car363, the bear, DerekL, alicefoeller Reply
 
 
of 2
 
 
2005-07-22 11:55 AM

User image

Member
29
25
Simi Valley
Subject: serious issue
Ok, In January this year my wife of 5 years tells me that we need to loose weight. I agreed and we went to WW for help. Having an addictive personality I started dropping weight like sweat on a hot days run. I was eating right and working out like a mad man. My wife was eating ok but not exercising at all. About 8 weeks into the program we decided to stop going, as it was getting too expensive. I continued to eat right and exercise and she stopped all together. I have been training for my first triathlon coming up in September and my wife is feeling like we are growing apart. She is concerned that this will take over my life and she will not be a part of my future. I have spoken to her about this and assured her that I have no intentions of becoming a true triathlete as I will be bulking up after Septembers race. She is not convinced and I am having a hard time dealing with both the motivation needed to train and my personal life being disrupted.

I am sure others have been in this situation. Any advice would be great.

Thanks,


2005-07-22 12:03 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Queen BTich
12411
500050002000100100100100
,
Subject: RE: serious issue

help_im_drowning - 2005-07-22 12:55 PM Ok, In January this year my wife of 5 years tells me that we need to loose weight. I agreed and we went to WW for help. Having an addictive personality I started dropping weight like sweat on a hot days run. I was eating right and working out like a mad man. My wife was eating ok but not exercising at all. About 8 weeks into the program we decided to stop going, as it was getting too expensive. I continued to eat right and exercise and she stopped all together. I have been training for my first triathlon coming up in September and my wife is feeling like we are growing apart. She is concerned that this will take over my life and she will not be a part of my future. I have spoken to her about this and assured her that I have no intentions of becoming a true triathlete as I will be bulking up after Septembers race. She is not convinced and I am having a hard time dealing with both the motivation needed to train and my personal life being disrupted. I am sure others have been in this situation. Any advice would be great. Thanks,

I hate to say it, but she is right-you will grow apart. If you're enjoying what you're doing, there is no reason to stop. However, people like this make me angry, because as it seems from your post, she has nothing stopping her (injury, medical problems, etc.) from putting the food down and getting off the couch. My EX was the same way and our problems only got worse. I'm sure there are other people on this forum who are dedicated athletes and their spouses are not and they make their marriages work. I am not one of them, I am like you, the addictive personality. However, if you don't mind the way your wife is, then fine. I suggest your motivate her to join you for light workouts. If she doesn't want to, then I don't know what else you can do and she will have to deal with the consequences. You should not change your new lifestyle for her.

BTW: I'm not one to give out this kind of advice and don't mean to sound harsh. But I just got out of a relationship exactly like this and obviously have some anger about how he let himself become a beer drinking fat couch potato. I can't make my relationships work with people who aren't into sports like I am, I am just telling you my opinion.



Edited by TriComet 2005-07-22 12:03 PM
2005-07-22 12:07 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Veteran
250
1001002525
Madison, WI
Subject: RE: serious issue
That's a hard one and I am sorry to hear that you are being pulled in two opposite directions. I imagine that is tough.

Maybe you could convince your wife to just exercise for now and not worry about the weight? That way she could still be active with you and feel like you are sharing time together without having to change her eating habits if she is not ready yet. (Plus the eating will probably come if she is exercising)

These are just guesses but I would think there are probably two areas that she is worried about. First, you are probably having more of an independent life training since she is not training with you. She probably feels left out. It's not that it is "taking over your life" as much as it is that it is "taking you away from her life". Including her might make this better.

Second might be appearance. She might be worried that if you are fit and trim and she isn't as trim as she thinks she should be, then you won't find her attractive. The best way to deal with that is probably reassurance that you love her no matter what, etc.

Not married so that's just my two cents. Good luck with your training!

Edited by lablover 2005-07-22 12:10 PM
2005-07-22 12:26 PM
in reply to: #204737

Elite Veteran
1817
1000500100100100
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Subject: RE: serious issue

OK, you asked for it.  If you are considering for one second that you will give up on your efforts to improve your health just to make your wife feel better, you need to say that out loud to yourself once so you can see how it really sounds.  Not too good, huh?   I don't mean to sound harsh, but your wife is the negative in this situation, and I think you can see that.  If she says it will take over your life and she will not be part of your future, what she is really saying is that she is unwilling to be supportive of you while you attempt to improve the quality of your own life. My husband does not swim, or bike, or run, and he is not a vegetarian (as a matter of fact, his diet sucks), but he is a grown man, that is his choice and I respect that.  Just as he respects my choice to do what I see as being best for my life.  Not only respects it, but goes to all my races and cheers and takes pictures, brags to all his friends,  and takes vacation time to play SAG wagon on my long bike rides.

Only you can say what compromises you are willing to make to keep peace in your own marriage. People make sacrifices for the sake of marital harmony every day of the week that I do not understand.  Although, since you say you will be "bulking" up after the September race anyway, it does not sound like you are all that commited to this lifestyle change, either, which is really too bad.

2005-07-22 12:39 PM
in reply to: #204737

Sydney Australia
Subject:
2005-07-22 12:54 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Buttercup
14334
500050002000200010010010025
Subject: RE: serious issue

I think the real problem is that she is confronted with your active lifestyle which is at odds with her sedentary lifestyle. She is being confronted with your fitness and sees the reflection of her lack thereof. This is not about you; it's about her.

Having different interests will not drive the two of you apart. Her lack of honesty about her issues is what will drive her away from you. She needs to grow up and get real.

Good luck and KEEP TRI'ING!



2005-07-22 1:16 PM
in reply to: #204737

Elite
2458
20001001001001002525
Livingston, MT
Subject: RE: serious issue
Do you have children? What values to you want to project onto them?

2005-07-22 1:16 PM
in reply to: #204817

Sydney Australia
Subject:
2005-07-22 1:22 PM
in reply to: #204847

User image

Queen BTich
12411
500050002000100100100100
,
Subject: RE: serious issue

ChuckyFinster - 2005-07-22 2:16 PM Do you have children? What values to you want to project onto them?

Good point! I commend your for changing your lifestyle with our without children. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks its her issues.

2005-07-22 1:34 PM
in reply to: #204737

Member
98
252525
Austin, TX
Subject: RE: serious issue
I would assume most people on this board that come from "couch to sprint" or actually "couch to any tri" have gone through similar things. Some with spouse's, others w/ friends and family. I actually had a few friends that were making me feel guilty. I had a good conversation w/ another friend and he basically said, "Dude, you are addicted to fitness, not drugs or alcohol....you are making yourself a better person...basically the negativity is their way of showing they are jealous or they really miss you." They just don't know how to show it. It made sense to me and those friends that were negative are now very supportive. It just takes a little time because most people HATE change..

Another possible remedy...get her a heart rate monitor. I don't think people realize how much "easier" and more efficient you can be when working out at 60-70% of your MHR. It truly makes exercising more enjoyable and initially less painful.

Just my .02.
2005-07-22 2:10 PM
in reply to: #204755

User image

Pro
5153
50001002525
Helena, MT
Subject: RE: serious issue
TriComet - 2005-07-22 10:03 AM

help_im_drowning - 2005-07-22 12:55 PM Ok, In January this year my wife of 5 years tells me that we need to loose weight. I agreed and we went to WW for help. Having an addictive personality I started dropping weight like sweat on a hot days run. I was eating right and working out like a mad man. My wife was eating ok but not exercising at all. About 8 weeks into the program we decided to stop going, as it was getting too expensive. I continued to eat right and exercise and she stopped all together. I have been training for my first triathlon coming up in September and my wife is feeling like we are growing apart. She is concerned that this will take over my life and she will not be a part of my future. I have spoken to her about this and assured her that I have no intentions of becoming a true triathlete as I will be bulking up after Septembers race. She is not convinced and I am having a hard time dealing with both the motivation needed to train and my personal life being disrupted. I am sure others have been in this situation. Any advice would be great. Thanks,

I hate to say it, but she is right-you will grow apart. If you're enjoying what you're doing, there is no reason to stop. However, people like this make me angry, because as it seems from your post, she has nothing stopping her (injury, medical problems, etc.) from putting the food down and getting off the couch. My EX was the same way and our problems only got worse. I'm sure there are other people on this forum who are dedicated athletes and their spouses are not and they make their marriages work. I am not one of them, I am like you, the addictive personality. However, if you don't mind the way your wife is, then fine. I suggest your motivate her to join you for light workouts. If she doesn't want to, then I don't know what else you can do and she will have to deal with the consequences. You should not change your new lifestyle for her.

I have to say I disagree. Growing apart is not inevitable at all. There will be some change in your relationship, but it can be for the better. The key, IMO, is to put as much work into your relationship as you do into tri training and to have her on board and open to it (of course, you can't control that). The other key, is that she finds a hobby she's passionate about.

I was totally in your wife's shoes once. My boyfriend started playing Ultimate Frisbee about 6 mos after we got together (he'd played beforehand, but had just moved and didn't have a team yet). He's on a serious team. They practice 3 times a week for ~4 hrs each time,  travel to tournaments for the whole weekend 1-2 times a month and get together to hang out a LOT and the season lasts 6 months or more. He was spending as much time with them as with me. I was pissed. It was so aggravating. I didn't tell him, "It's me or frisbee next season," but I was darn close. Well, the next season started up and I discovered tri-ing. Suddenly, Frisbee is not an issue at all.

"Get a hobby" doesn't sound so good to say, but it's important that she does (definitely don't say it, my bf said that to me once when I was bitching about Frisbee and all hell broke loose! LOL!). You should also make sacrifices to so it has less of an impact on her. Train in the morning while she's asleep, for instance. Try not to make her feel bad for not being as fit as you, because even if unintentional, this is easy to do. Let her know that you're still attracted to her and don't think she should become a spindly endurance athlete-looking woman. Just be understanding and keep training. I think she'll get on board sooner or later.



2005-07-22 2:12 PM
in reply to: #204939

User image

Queen BTich
12411
500050002000100100100100
,
Subject: RE: serious issue
kimj81 - 2005-07-22 3:10 PM
TriComet - 2005-07-22 10:03 AM

I have to say I disagree. Growing apart is not inevitable at all. There will be some change in your relationship, but it can be for the better. The key, IMO, is to put as much work into your relationship as you do into tri training and to have her on board and open to it (of course, you can't control that). The other key, is that she finds a hobby she's passionate about.

I was totally in your wife's shoes once. My boyfriend started playing Ultimate Frisbee about 6 mos after we got together (he'd played beforehand, but had just moved and didn't have a team yet). He's on a serious team. They practice 3 times a week for ~4 hrs each time,  travel to tournaments for the whole weekend 1-2 times a month and get together to hang out a LOT and the season lasts 6 months or more. He was spending as much time with them as with me. I was pissed. It was so aggravating. I didn't tell him, "It's me or frisbee next season," but I was darn close. Well, the next season started up and I discovered tri-ing. Suddenly, Frisbee is not an issue at all.

"Get a hobby" doesn't sound so good to say, but it's important that she does (definitely don't say it, my bf said that to me once when I was bitching about Frisbee and all hell broke loose! LOL!). You should also make sacrifices to so it has less of an impact on her. Train in the morning while she's asleep, for instance. Try not to make her feel bad for not being as fit as you, because even if unintentional, this is easy to do. Let her know that you're still attracted to her and don't think she should become a spindly endurance athlete-looking woman. Just be understanding and keep training. I think she'll get on board sooner or later.

I agree with you. I meant, you will grow apart if she keeps sitting on the couch eating and not exercising and doing things for herself (not tri's, but any hobby). She is feeling sorry for herself, in the many ways listed here, and she is the only one that can change that.

2005-07-22 2:14 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Master
1967
10005001001001001002525
Subject: RE: serious issue
This is a tough topic.

My wife does not tri, but she is fully supportive of my training. We just have different goals in this area. I don't think that having one triathlete and one non-triathlete in a relationship means that they are going to grow apart. We have not. In fact my training has brought us closer together in some ways. (I look ALOT better - she sees me making a serious commitment to health and following through - those things are attractive to her)

It seems to me that the issue here relates to your wife's feelings about watching you get in shape. She may be feeling bad about her own lack of activity while watching you work out like a madman. It may help if you assure her that you feel the same as you always have about her regardless of whether she joins you on the exercise journey or not.

BTW... what's this "true triathlete" stuff? If you are doing a triathlon you are a "true triathlete.
2005-07-22 2:16 PM
in reply to: #204945

User image

Pro
5153
50001002525
Helena, MT
Subject: RE: serious issue
TriComet - 2005-07-22 12:12 PM

I agree with you. I meant, you will grow apart if she keeps sitting on the couch eating and not exercising and doing things for herself (not tri's, but any hobby). She is feeling sorry for herself, in the many ways listed here, and she is the only one that can change that.

Yeah, having been in her shoes, I agree. It's a resistance to change, but life's always gonna change so you have to learn to adjust. Some advice my Dad gave me when my Mom started getting into church a whole lot, "You never know how your spouse is going to change once you're married. Be prepared for that." When you marry someone, you're not just marrying that person at that moment, you're marrying whatever they might become.

2005-07-22 2:40 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Veteran
290
100100252525
Denver
Subject: RE: serious issue
I don't understand when you say this:
I have no intentions of becoming a true triathlete as I will be bulking up after Septembers race

Why? All this work you're doing now, for nothing? You don't have to win Kona to be a "true triathlete", you don't have to be "hard core" to be healthy. You've put so much effort into getting healthy, why would you throw it all away?

I'm sorry to hear about your wife's attitude. It is difficult. My partner doesn't do tris, he doesn't even exercise. Not into healthy food either. I wouldn't say its driving us apart, but it isn't easy! There are a lot of compromises on both our parts. He's a night owl, I'm in bed by 9:30 or 10 to get up at 5 - that doesn't do wonders for the ol' sex life. We have to be creative there. But he's tolerating it and I'm making sure I leave a few evenings and weekend days to spend with him. He understands its healthy for me both mentally and physically. He knows I come from a family where heart disease strikes young and he doesn't want it to strike me young.

I fear what's happening with your wife is a bit of jealousy. Jealous that you were able to lose weight, she may think it came easy to you, easier than for her. And yeah, jealous of time spent apart. But if you are convinced of the healthy aspects of this lifestyle (I'm not sure you are by your statement that I quoted above), then maybe it won't be too hard to help her understand. That is, if you really want to....


2005-07-22 2:44 PM
in reply to: #204953

Elite Veteran
1817
1000500100100100
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Subject: RE: serious issue
kimj81 - 2005-07-22 2:16 PM

.....When you marry someone, you're not just marrying that person at that moment, you're marrying whatever they might become.

Perfectly said. Your Dad is a genius. So the point is, when you pick your mate it is non-negotiable that they must be someone who will love you and support your efforts to be the best you that you can be,  no matter what, and you must do the same for them.  In 12 years, my husband has never once said a discouraging word to me about one crazy thing I have ever gotten it in my head to try.  And whether it worked, or whether I scrapped it and went onto something new, I've never been made to feel guilty or selfish for any of it.  It's a rock solid foundation of  "I think you're a great person. I love and respect you, and whatever you do to make you happy with yourself has my full and total support".  I feel like everyone deserves that, and I hate to see people settle for anything less.  That's why I didn't get married until I was 30.  I saw the first time (at 19) what's it's like when someone's only goal is to hold you down.  I escaped 5 years later with only a tiny little spark of self respect that would not be extinquished, and two children to support.  And I swore no matter what I had to do to keep us afloat, I would never settle for that again, even if it meant I died single.  Woopsie, soap box alert!



2005-07-22 3:05 PM
in reply to: #204993

User image

Veteran
290
100100252525
Denver
Subject: RE: serious issue
I escaped 5 years later with only a tiny little spark of self respect that would not be extinquished


Damn, that hits home to me. I escaped a loveless, stifling marriage several years ago. Swore I would NEVER live my life for someone else again. Ever. Compromise, oh yes. But abandon my SELF, no way.....So far, so good....









2005-07-22 3:08 PM
in reply to: #205014

Elite Veteran
1817
1000500100100100
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Subject: RE: serious issue

pippen - 2005-07-22 3:05 PM
I escaped 5 years later with only a tiny little spark of self respect that would not be extinquished
Damn, that hits home to me. I escaped a loveless, stifling marriage several years ago. Swore I would NEVER live my life for someone else again. Ever. Compromise, oh yes. But abandon my SELF, no way.....So far, so good....

Excellent! Music to my ears.....

2005-07-22 4:45 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Master
1932
100050010010010010025
Savannah,
Subject: RE: serious issue
I understand your issues....IMO, it is a power struggle and I predict depression for your SO in the future (depression:disappointment in self). YOU be healthy and YOU be supportive of her and take the high road....nothing bad ever happens from taking the high road (unless, of course you are me on a bike and have this butt to carry around).

Good luck and take care of each other.
2005-07-22 10:28 PM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Extreme Veteran
456
1001001001002525
Western Massachusetts
Subject: RE: serious issue
help_im_drowning - 2005-07-22 12:55 PMOk, In January this year my wife of 5 years tells me that we need to loose weight. I agreed and we went to WW for help. Having an addictive personality I started dropping weight like sweat on a hot days run. I was eating right and working out like a mad man. My wife was eating ok but not exercising at all. About 8 weeks into the program we decided to stop going, as it was getting too expensive. I continued to eat right and exercise and she stopped all together. I have been training for my first triathlon coming up in September and my wife is feeling like we are growing apart. She is concerned that this will take over my life and she will not be a part of my future. I have spoken to her about this and assured her that I have no intentions of becoming a true triathlete as I will be bulking up after Septembers race. She is not convinced and I am having a hard time dealing with both the motivation needed to train and my personal life being disrupted.I am sure others have been in this situation. Any advice would be great.Thanks,


What course of action has the most honor in it?  Honoring your own body's needs, honoring your marriage vows, honoring your wife?  Ask you wife this.

I'm the spouse that transformed and I just brought my husband along for the ride.  He joins me in physical activities as it interests him, but he mostly goes off and does his own thing and that honors his needs and keeps us both fresh for each other.  I'm not sure I can explain it well, but by us each being the best version of ourselves that we can be, we're better together.

Strive to lift each other up.  What would lift her up the most?  What would lift you up the most?  Can you work towards that?

Good luck.  I've been married 16 years and we've had our ups and downs, but at the base of everything is the fact that I like and respect him as a human being.  Love sometimes runs silent and deep, so like and respect (and the fact that we made vows) sometimes is what I have to count on to get us through things.  But when we get through something we're stronger for having figured it out.

Gwendal
2005-07-23 7:49 AM
in reply to: #204757

User image

Master
1889
1000500100100100252525
Ann Arbor, MI
Subject: RE: serious issue
Can a triathlete be happy with someone who is not? Well yes of course! My husband would rather have his toenails removed than do a tri but he supports me. He sees that I am happier than I was.

Your wife is probably discouraged by your progress. I remember i felt threatened when Gene lost some weight early in our marriage and I was a size 24. I was secretly convinced he would look so amazing he would find someone better and better looking than me. That may be part of it.

She will do what she will do as she is ready and if you are lecturing her she has every right to put lard in your Wheaties.

Do what you do and schedule it carefully. Tell her this is important to you, too important to give up and that you want to be there for her until you are old together. Then make time for things you like to do together. Gene and I dumped 50% of the kids on the Grandparents today (bless them) and are headed to the art fair here in Ann Arbor. We met face to face there for the first time 12 years ago today and this is something we like to do together. I am NOT going to talk about running/biking or swimming unless he asks me about it and then I will keep it as brief as possible.

Now if this becomes a real huge issue get someone to talk to about it. We have always had seperated interests in our marriage and it has been good for us. We also like eachother a lot, not just love, and can sit in a room in silence happily.

This part of your life may not be something she does with you but can she support you and enjoy herself too? I go for a long run once a week but then we all pile in the car and do the PAncake thing together as a family. Gene volunteers at races a lot. I sit through his Friday night Sci Fi fest (not my favorite thing). Does this mean we have an "issue free" marriage? Good grief no. He would much rather I snuggled up in the morning than headed out.

Just make sure you are pulling your weight at home when you are there and she is not feeling trapped. That's a big one around here, in both directions.


2005-07-23 9:59 AM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Elite
2733
200050010010025
Venture Industries,
Subject: RE: serious issue
Well I disagree with Tricomet, its about priorities. For the vast majority of us there is limited time that we have to divide between work, training and family. The more I trained by definition the less time I was spending with my family. My wife started to get resentful of my training, and I said the same things that you're saying: "I'm doing this for you guys, so I'm healthier" fact is I still was stealing time from my family.

Bottom line is you have to look at your life and define your priorities. If your wife is upset those feeelings are real for her. I could spew a ton of dime store psychology but it would be just that, dime store pulp advice.

My advice, prioritize your life. And make adjustments accordingly. For me it ment cancelling my gym membership and buying a treadmill and a trainer. I stuck them in the garage and now I come home right after work, spend time with my wife and daughter, and after my daughter goes to bed I hit the garage to train. The sacrifice is that I'm not getting as much real time on the road, but it's a sacrifice that I thought had to be made. No sence getting healthy for your family if you never see your family.

My personal belief is that family shoudl come first, but that's purely my opinion.
2005-07-23 11:22 AM
in reply to: #204737

User image

Member
29
25
Simi Valley
Subject: RE: serious issue
I sincerely appreciate all the opinions and advice. I would like to comment on a few things that I have read about this.
I have only been training for tri’s for a little over a month now and I am really enjoying the training. I believe I can definitely get hooked on this lifestyle. The biggest problem I face is that I was built to be a linebacker not a runner. I enjoy running more that any of the others, I even ran track in JR high (came in last almost every time bur enjoyed the training). The final decision to continue with this training is how much I enjoy the competition. September 25th will decide my future with regards to competing in this sport. I don’t think I can give up the training at this point as I am enjoying it too much.

I have to say I wasn’t sure whether or not to post this question here but I knew someone would have gone through this and have some advice. I am overwhelmed at the responses and the sincerity expressed by people who really don’t know me but truly seem to care. This conversation has given me even more drive to rearrange things a little more and continue to pursue this dream. The community that exist here on BT has to be the most inspirational place to spend an afternoon.

Thank you all for your words of encouragement, I am truly fortunate to have found this site and all of you.

Best,
Dave
2005-07-26 11:19 AM
in reply to: #204737

Regular
174
1002525
Subject: RE: serious issue
I figured I would throw my .02 in as well, having been on the other side of this. Before I started training, my girlfriend who is one of those naturally athletic, size 0 but eats whatever she wants kinda gals, was rowing crew. I was fine as long as I didn't have to see it, but as soon as she started doing sit ups in the living room, I would get mad at her. It would just remind me that I was unhappy with how I looked and felt, and that there was no way my body could do the things that hers could. It wasn't so much about the time that she spent doing other things, but rather just that it brought up a lot of self-image issues for me. Now that I have been training, I still get those twinges of jealousy sometimes, but they are less and a lot easier to deal with, knowing that I have something of my own that I can do.

In terms of time, my brother, who got me into triathlons, stopped training so intensly for a year or so because he felt he should be spending more time with his wife. What he realized was that although he got to spend more time with his wife, he was often unhappy, distracted or irritable. It worked better for him if he got to train and spend quality time with his family. (His wife is also a fairly hardcore athlete, so I think she understood).

Elissa
2005-07-26 11:35 AM
in reply to: #207651

User image

Philadelphia, south of New York and north of DC
Subject: RE: serious issue
Put your wife and your marriage first. She is more important than a triathlon.

Seek the help of a professional marriage councelor. It may be that the issue has nothing to do with training. Perhaps it has to do with trust or some other underlying issue.

Plenty of people here have SO's who do not participate in athletics and yet are supportive of triathlon training.

I bet, once your marriage is on solid ground again, you will have plenty of support for your training.
New Thread
Other Resources My Cup of Joe » serious issue Rss Feed  
 
 
of 2