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2008-08-14 10:45 PM

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Another question.

 If you swim the prelim do you get a medal if your teams wins in the final?  IMO, the premlin team should be the same as the finals team.  If someone is injured you don't swim.  I just saw the story of phelps giving up his spot in Sydney to Crocker.  So does this mean that phelps would have had 7 gold medals or did he get credit since the US won the race?

2008-08-14 10:51 PM
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The announcer said "By doing that, Phelps basically gave him a gold medal." I took that to mean he "had" the gold, but "gave" it to Crocker. Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can answer that a little better.
2008-08-14 11:26 PM
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Bripod - 2008-08-14 10:51 PM The announcer said "By doing that, Phelps basically gave him a gold medal." I took that to mean he "had" the gold, but "gave" it to Crocker. Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can answer that a little better.
That is what I heard too.  I took it as one of 2 things.  1.)  It was a forgone conclusion the US would win the gold so by letting crocker swim the race crocker would get the gold and not phelps.  or 2.) this allowed them both to get the gold but crocker got the glory for actually swimming. I know in '04 phelps got 6 gold and 2 bronze but is that race they mentioned included in his total?  I don't think it is and since he swam the prelimins that is messed up.  Not just for him but for everyone.  I mean, if you watch the prelims for the us it is a bunch of no-names (relatively speaking).
2008-08-14 11:26 PM
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Bripod - 2008-08-14 10:51 PM The announcer said "By doing that, Phelps basically gave him a gold medal." I took that to mean he "had" the gold, but "gave" it to Crocker. Maybe someone with more knowledge than me can answer that a little better.
That is what I heard too.  I took it as one of 2 things.  1.)  It was a forgone conclusion the US would win the gold so by letting crocker swim the race crocker would get the gold and not phelps.  or 2.) this allowed them both to get the gold but crocker got the glory for actually swimming. I know in '04 phelps got 6 gold and 2 bronze but is that race they mentioned included in his total?  I don't think it is and since he swam the prelimins that is messed up.  Not just for him but for everyone.  I mean, if you watch the prelims for the us it is a bunch of no-names (relatively speaking).
2008-08-14 11:37 PM
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The events he medaled in 2004 were:

200 freestyle [bronze]
4x100 freestyle [bronze]
4x200 freestyle [gold]
100 butterfly [gold]
200 butterfly [gold]
200 IM [gold]
400 IM [gold]
4x100 medley [gold]

crocker got gold in 4x100 medley, silver in the 100 fly, and bronze in 4x100 free

So I guess by process of elimination we can assume that all members of the relay get the medal, whether they raced in the finals or not.
2008-08-15 1:34 AM
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True, everyone that swims in the prelims gets the same medal the people that swim in the finals do.  So they gave out 7 for the US team this tme around

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