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SEADOCHA

2011-09-11 10:57 AM

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847

Akron

Subject: How much quicker are you at running events from your training runs

So I did Steelhead August 14th and ran a 1:46:57 after the bike. I have also been training to run a marathon on September 24th. Yesterday I went on a hard training run for 13.1. My time was 1:47:11. The training run might have been a little more hilly than the half at Steelhead, but I was kinda disappointed with my time. The day before I ran 6.5 at a medium intensity, so I didn't exactly have fresh legs. This will be my 11th marathon. I really want a new PR (under 3:39- 8:23 pace) and feel like in order to accomplish this I need to hit around 1:44 for my half time. When I ran Boston this past year I hit the half way point at 1:46. This training session My 20.5 long run I ran at 8:39 pace (very HOT) and my other 22 long run was at 8:48 (very HOT). So I guess I'm asking how much faster do you guys run at the full event coming off a taper?

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Oldteen

2011-09-11 2:05 PM

in reply to: #3680958

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2426

Central Indiana

Subject: RE: How much quicker are you at running events from your training runs

I'm slower runner with less marathon experience than you. FWIW- Trained seriously this spring to break 2hr HM. Ran a hard 2:03 in training weeks before, then raced PB (so far) of 1:52. Both runs were mid 70's temp although the HM race was more humid.

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Khyron

2011-09-13 3:12 PM

in reply to: #3681116

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1440

Calgary, AB

Subject: RE: How much quicker are you at running events from your training runs

Races are my fastest - hence being races. I get my pacing from previous 10k races and use mcmillan to calc my target pace. I might do some 3-5ks at that pace or quicker to get a feel for it but if my HM goal pace is 4:18/km I wouldn't go run 20km at 4:18 in training - ever. 20mins at 10k pace, yes.

But yah if you are targetting a 3:30 marathon you should be able to do 1:45 easy for a half and that should be in training, repeatedly. More importantly would be to be able to do a 47 min 10K.

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Scout7

2011-09-13 3:38 PM

in reply to: #3680958

Runner

Subject: RE: How much quicker are you at running events from your training runs

First, you're comparing a training run time with a race time, over different terrain. Not exactly a fair comparison.

Now, as to what I saw the last time I ran a marathon, my longest run of 18 miles was done at a pace of high 8s. I ran a marathon 3 weeks after that (not an official taper in there, but hey), and hit 7:22 pace or so. I ran another marathon about a month after that one, and hit 7:20 pace. My 5K time at that point was 19:55 (done about a week before that first listed marathon).

My "easy effort" runs were generally in the 8 min range, with some faster and some slower. Medium effort/"tempo" runs were in the 7s. I didn't do a lot of running at what ended up as my race pace, either. Most of it was slower, even the harder runs.

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TX_TRIron

2011-09-15 3:43 PM

in reply to: #3680958