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 2004-02-10 6:05 PM |
Member 46  SoCal |  Subject: Question on runningAlright now, maybe this is just a matter of conditioning but I need y'all's expert advice. My cycling has improved dramatically over the past few weeks - I've gone from a cadence of @60rpm to @78rpm and I'm happy with that. But my running.... being that I'm a fat guy I started out just walking. I can walk at a brisk pace for 2 hours, probably more, and I'm pretty comfortable. But when I start throwing in the jogging, I'm a hurtin' unit. My neighbors are starting to get ticked at me because I'm sucking air so hard that I'm sucking the leaves off all the trees in the neighborhood. I've been trying the minutes approach - walk 5, jog 2, walk 5, jog 2, but I don't seem to be making any appreciable progress. Is this just a matter of conditioning or should I just resign myself to being a windsucker? |
| 2004-02-10 7:05 PM in reply to: #6770 |
Veteran 249 Lubbock, TX | Subject: RE: Question on running I sympathize with you as I am going through the same thing. A friend went jogging with me and said that my shoes were wrong, stride was too long and pace too quick. She corrected my running form(somewhat). She slowed me down dramatically where I am moving only slightly faster than a walk and I've now switched to a lightweight cushioned running shoe. She assures me that the discomfort will diminish. However, she warned me not to overdo it. She recommended the walk/run/walk as well and said that I will find myself doing more running and less walking over time. Keep the faith. Meanwhile, I am still chuckling from your comments regarding the neighbors and the leaves. Very funny. LOL Edited by GamblerZ 2004-02-10 7:06 PM |
| 2004-02-10 9:48 PM in reply to: #6770 |
| Central Louisiana | Subject: RE: Question on running I am by no means a great runner as it is still by far my weakest area. I only in the last month was able to run a 10 minute mile and it like to have killed me. I found that intially, that I had to settle into a stride that was slow but I could maintain. I had to overcome the mental aspect of wanting to quit. I still usually want to quit, but I have learned to work through it. Hang in there and keep up what you are doing and it will come. |
| 2004-02-10 10:03 PM in reply to: #6770 |
Expert 644 Evansville, IN | Subject: RE: Question on running It's just a matter of time and patience. Don't get in a hurry, you'll hurt yourself. I read a good book awhile back when I was building up to begin running. I think the title was Walk to Run. It very nicely outlines how to make good steady progress and stay injury free. Also, as you stick with it, the weight will begin to come off and everything becomes easier. Since I've lost about 40 #'s(and still counting), my running has improved a ton. Keep plugging away. ;-) |
| 2004-02-11 10:03 AM in reply to: #6770 |
| New user 33 Rome, GA | Subject: RE: Question on running Take your time it will come to you but it takes lots of time. You said that you are heavy and this will affect your running a lot more than it will your biking. Biking is not weight bareing and you can use those muscles that are used to help you walk and get up with out having the weight. You should feel very strong on the bike, however running now you are putting that weight back on the legs. Remember every stride when running is 6X your weight striking the pavement, make sure you have good shoes. Try doing some of your running on dirt if you can this will help keep you from getting enjured. Just keep up with the walk run walk, it takes lots of time. |
| 2004-02-11 10:30 AM in reply to: #6770 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: Question on running Hey Hog, I feel your pain. I too am a slow runner. When I bought my heart rate monitor I lent it to a friend who is a truely outstanding triathlete. He wore it for a sprint tri race. The monitor has a data logging feature so I saved his heart rate for the race as an inspiration. The interesting part is that his heart rate is not too different from mine. I take consolation that in my chest beats the heart of a champion even though the legs attached are kind of mediocre Joking aside, I do think that it is more important to keep your heart rate in a zone that you know you can maintain (like the rate you have while walking) for a nice long time than it is to run any particular pace. This is where you will build your conditioning while avoiding injuries. It takes a while. TW |
| 2004-02-11 11:39 AM in reply to: #6770 |
Veteran 247 | Subject: RE: Question on running I am from a running background, but I have been trying to help a friend get into it. We would walk run once a week. I find she does best if our run is not much if any faster then our walk. The heart rate goes up, but not to high to keep going. Keep improving on the bike. A good bike can help when going into the run. |
| 2004-02-11 12:41 PM in reply to: #6770 |
| Member 46 SoCal | Subject: RE: Question on running Thanks all for your insight and inspiration!  |
| 2004-02-11 12:50 PM in reply to: #6884 |
Expert 948 Mount Vernon, Iowa | Subject: RE: Question on running I second the comment about running on dirt or grass. Run the perimeter of a golf course or hiking trails or something. It lessens the impact on your joints quite a bit. This is one of my major tactics to stay injury-free. Also, if you possibly can, get some coaching. It really helps to have someone straighten out your gait. You can get rid of a lot of extraneous movement and channel it into going faster. |
| 2004-02-11 1:44 PM in reply to: #6886 |
Resident Matriarch N 43° 32.927 W 071° 24.431 | Subject: RE: Question on running unless you've got one of those rolling ankles we were talking about a while back. Grass and hidden soft surfaces are a death knell to a bad ankle, just like asphalt is to knees. Tell me again why I want to run?? oooooohhhhhh yeah....so I can Tri!! |
| 2004-02-11 2:04 PM in reply to: #6770 |
Expert 1164 New Port Richey | Subject: RE: Question on running The running does take time. I have been training now for 3 months. When I first started I could not run at all. For the first month I did nothing but walk. Then I started doing a walk run program of 1 minute run 4 minutes walking. My run was usually about 4.5 miles an hour and walking 3.6 after two weeks I went to 3 and 2. I did this for about three weeks but was not progressing. I had shin pain achilles tendon pain and arch pain and that was holding me back. Well i got some inserts for my running shoes and have shown tremendous improvement. In fact today I ran for 47 minutes without stopping, walked for 3 and finished up with 10 more minutes walking. I would not have set any records in fact I went slower then my running during the walk 3 run 2 but I did go 3.27 miles without stopping and I know that I will be able to complete a sprint tri this summer. So keep on working on your running take as much time as you need to and you will start to see improvement. Edited by kgart 2004-02-11 2:06 PM |
| 2004-02-11 7:32 PM in reply to: #6770 |
| , Alabama | Subject: RE: Question on running If you're sucking foliage off the trees, no wonder you're out of breath! Seriously, make sure you're accounting for all factors. It might be an idea to get a heart rate monitor to make sure that stays in a proper range. Also, although you are still walk 5/jog 2, is it for the same amount of total minutes it used to be? Are the distances getting longer? Just food for thought. Improvement isn't always on the surface. Sharon |
| 2004-02-11 7:46 PM in reply to: #6770 |
| Subject: RE: Question on running This has contained such valuable insight and encouragement for me as well. I amnot a runner, and am struggling to become kinda one! I am trying to be most patient but can hardly wait for those running endorphins that I know you runners get!!! I'll have to come back to this thread when I have more time and read it thoroughly. Thanks to all for the tips. |
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