Road bike gears?
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm in the process of buying my first ever road bike. I test rode a Specialized today and I LOVED it! It's hard for me to know exactly what I'm looking for since i'm so inexperienced w/road bikes, but I just couldn't wipe the smile off my face after riding it. It just felt good. The downside though was that it only had two gear rings on the front, which drove me crazy since I'm used to my mtn. bike. I asked the guy at the shop about it and he said that ring isn't really necessary for a road bike and that I probably wouldn't use it anyway. But then he backtracked and said that it would be good to have for rides with big climbs, and then proceeded to list off what seemed like every major ride in the area. I'm not a strong climber at all, and spend a lot of time in the little gears on my mtn. bike whether riding on roads or trails. So it seems to me that I would need them on a road bike as well. Is that the case, or is this one of those things that I don't know about road bikes? (There's lots of those!) Do I need to keep looking for a different bike? Thanks! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Two gear rings are fine up front, for most people. That 3rd gear is nice for weak climbers the first couple of months, but after that, you probably won't use it much. If you are really worried about climbing hills you can change out the rear gears cluster, which is called the cassette. Standard cassettes are 11-23, 12-25 or 12-27. The numbers stand for the number of teeth on the smallest and biggest rear gear. The smaller the first number, the faster you can go in the top gear. The bigger the second number the easier it is to climb hills. If you are really worried about hills, many times bike shops can swap out cassettes. On a new bike purchase, taking off the cassette it comes with and putting on a better hill climber should not cost much. Brand new the cassettes would normally be somewhere around 80 dollars depending on brand. I don't think you would have to change out the rear derailler for that. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If your bike can support a 3rd chain ring then go for it. It's there while you need it getting used to the new bike and later you can ignore it if you don't need it. No brainer. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Gerrard - 2008-08-14 10:59 PM If your bike can support a 3rd chain ring then go for it. It's there while you need it getting used to the new bike and later you can ignore it if you don't need it. No brainer. Wrong! It changes the gearing on the middle ring, and it may mean you need a different front derailler as well. Many times the shifting isn't as good on a triple as a double. And it makes the bike slightly heavier. If you feel you really need it, go for it. But it is not a no brainer. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If you are used to a triple and find yourself spinning the small ring a lot, then you're probably right that a standard double may not offer the gearing you need for hilly riding. Some shops would switch out a standard crank for a compact on a new bike for you. Is there a tough hill nearby the shop where you could try out the bike on the type of terrain you are worried about? That would be the best way to see how it feels to you.
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Turtle I was in the same boat as you when I got my first road bike (for 20 yrs) this year having been on a MTB with triple front rings. I ended up getting a Bianchi with compact crank as mentioned above and have to say I am able to get up any hill on it. I might lose out very slightly downhill but managed to keep up on the flat at 60 km/h last week in top gear. I reckon that is fast enough. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dredwards - 2008-08-15 7:14 AM If you are used to a triple and find yourself spinning the small ring a lot, then you're probably right that a standard double may not offer the gearing you need for hilly riding. Some shops would switch out a standard crank for a compact on a new bike for you. Is there a tough hill nearby the shop where you could try out the bike on the type of terrain you are worried about? That would be the best way to see how it feels to you.
Good advice. Try and test ride on a hill similar to those where you ride. I ruled out full suspension mountain bikes this way b/c some climb terribly and some are OK. The bike I KNEW I wanted from reading about them was totally disappointing when I climbed the first hill and said, "No thanks". I'd vote yes on the triple. I think it gives most cyclists a wrold of gearing options which every other set up compromizes to find. A "compact" double is a good compromize and approximates a triple, but has it's own shortcomings in level terrain. All are trade offs, just that IMHO, the triple is best suited to beginner-intermediate level cycling abilities. Edited by pitt83 2008-08-15 7:06 AM |
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![]() Get the double, find yourself a hilly riding loop of about 10 miles and keep working on the hills. Before terribly long you will not even notice that you don't have a triple and you will no longer need the smallest ring. Simple |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DanielG - 2008-08-15 2:25 PM Get the double, find yourself a hilly riding loop of about 10 miles and keep working on the hills. Before terribly long you will not even notice that you don't have a triple and you will no longer need the smallest ring. Simple
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It's a road bike, not a MTB. It's supposed to be different. In the beginning, climbing is harder, but IMO there is just one way to overcome this: to learn to climb with a road bike, not to turn the road bike into some sort of hybrid MTB/roadie. It's an experience I made (and still make) the hard way. But it will get easier in time. I promise. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Many folks still see a Double crankset as 'the crankset' for road bikes. This, too me, is just tradition. However, practice does make perfect. For one: Try multiple bicycles before you buy one. Hit every LBS within a certain radius and ride every brand of road bike they sell within your price range. Ask questions, take notes, compare and contrast. In the end, you will most likely notice that the brand is different; however, the component groups are generally the same within price ranges. Double vs Triple: triple can still have the same higher gear;moreover, it has that lower gear you may just need to get up the hill. Some folks just do not have the muscle/endurance to pedal heavy uphill. The triple is heavier. The double does not offer the low gear you may need but it is lighter and more efficient in terms of gear changing. Compact Crank is a nice option. Sure, you may lose some top end speed only if you race over 30ish mph. Higher RPM's. Regardless of which you choose, faster cadence will get you up the hill. This goes back to practice. I would purchase an off the floor bike with a triple. Why? Because the option is there to use. On the other hand, if I had a few extra dollars, I would install a compact crankset and use a 12-27 cassette. If I knew that I was a stronger rider or developed into one that did not maintain speeds of 30 plus mph on the flats, I would use a 11-23 cassette. If I was a flat only rider with plus 30 mph...I would go traditional double
Best of luck Edited by reconbyfire 2008-08-15 1:08 PM |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I would get the double. There is much less mechanical issues with them (told to me by two different LBS's). I am not the strongest biker and I live in a pretty hilly area. I ride a Specialized Roubaix with Sram compact Rival and have no issues with any of the monster hills. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() A few years ago when I was looking at buying bikes, I asked some friends who were riders what they recommended and they universally recommended the same component group (no one said anything about triples or doubles). I tested out a number of bikes within that group and bought the bike that I liked the best. It had a triple. I'm not a very strong climber, and while I have definitely gotten better, I still use my triple regularly. I think that there is some good advice here, but one thing that you will notices is that gears are readily swappable, while some other bike parts are not. While I definitely think that there are advantages for the different gear sets, you may very well find that there are some other fit components that greatly differentiate the bikes you try out. My personal recommendation would be to buy the bike that fits you the best, ride it as much as you can and then decide if you want to upgrade the gears. Unless of course your LBS is willing to offer you some smokin' deal on a different set of gears. |