Gel or not to Gel?
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2008-09-14 9:14 AM |
Veteran 224![]() ![]() Cumming, GA | Subject: Gel or not to Gel?I've been doing the athletic thing all my life, but have NEVER used gels. Recently, I tried one at a Century ride and benefited by not cramping up in the last 5-6 miles as I have in the past. I'd like to try to use them this time. Can you all suggest timing and techniques for taking the gel in Sprint distances? How many should I use? What's the best "kind"? Help please. |
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2008-09-14 9:39 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Extreme Veteran 356![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Orlando, Florida | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?Nutrition , especially gels is something that can really vary from person to person. As far as a sprint, you probably dont need one during the race. If you feel like you do, the best time may be really early on the bike. Any training under an hour and you dont really need gels.One of the first things to do is to figure out how many calories and electrolytes (sodium,potassium,etc) you need. There are two good resources I have used. 1. Tri Talk nutrition calculator @ http://tri-talk.com/TriTalkNC/TriTalkNC.htm 2. Hammer Nutrition Endurance athlete's guide to success @ http://www.hammernutrition.com/downloads/fuelinghandbook.pdf One thing about #2 is that it is put out by Hammer nutrition and it is biased towards their product, but it has lots of good info. Once you figure out your nutritional needs, the rest is trial and error. You may want to buy a few different types of gels and flavors to see what you can stomach best. Timing will also vary. When I am running long, I take one every 30, when I am racing tris or doing long bricks, I take it every 20. Ultimately, the most important thing is testing any nutritional strategy out before you race, and dont change anything on race day |
2008-09-14 10:33 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Master 2638![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?Your nutrition strategy will vary depending on your exertion level, distance, heat, weight, etc. Here is a link to a recent topic of the week on this subject: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=122432&posts=16&highlight=nutrition&highlightmode=1#M1517355 However, FWIW, here is my strategy. I'm 125ish lbs and a salty sweater (covered in salt with lines of it on my clothing post-run or ride) so adjust accordingly. Run Less than an hour, nothing or sips of water if really hot or I'm dehydrated. After that, 1 Gu every 45 minutes and water with Nuun in it as necessary throughout if it's hot or humid. If a really long run, I bring extra Nuun for when I fill-up the water bottle. Bike Less than an hour, one bottle water and one bottle of electrolyte/calorie drink. No Gus unless I've not fueled well during the day or if I didn't have a snack (nuts, Cliff bar, banana) pre-ride. For longer rides, I take 1 bottle of electrolyte drink and 1 Gu per hour (taken by 1 shot from my flask every 30 mins). If it's at all warm or humid, I also bring my aerobottle full of water. If I'm doing a really long bike (> 3 hrs), sometimes I also bring a snack (Fig newtons, etc) for a pick-me-up. Since I only have 2 bottle cages on my bike, I route past a water fountain to refill waters on a long bike and/or stash another bottle in my jersey pocket. For a sprint race, I take a Gu at about mile 3 of the bike. As Kevin said, it's probably not "necessary" but does give a good attitude adjustment if you are food-motivated as well as a nice sugar boost. Edited to add that I prefer Gu gels because they are a little thicker (less messy) and taste better to me than others I've tried (Hammer, Cliff, Powerbar). However, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm on team ZootGu so I have extra reason to like them better. I do prefer the non-caffeinated versions, but that is just me. Edited by Mrs. brown_dog_us 2008-09-14 10:38 AM |
2008-09-14 10:48 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Elite 3658![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?I agree with all the above, but here is what I would add: I haven't noticed a difference between the various brands of gel other then taste. Sometimes a gel is needed for fuel and other times it gives you a mental boost. In shorter distances it is mostly mental. There are a lot of ways to get fuel in while exercising. Gels are very easy to carry and easy to stomach so they are very popular. You could also try a drink with calories like HEED or Accelerade and that way get some electrolytes at the same time. Don't fall in the trap of thinking that you are exercising to lose weight so you don't want to eat while doing it. What you eat while you are working out will generally get turned to glycogen (muscle fuel) and not fat. What you scarf down at dinner because you have a calorie deficiency for the day is more likely to turn into fat. Here is my basic fueling: under 1 hour and sprints: nothing 1 to 2 hours: electrolyte drink with calories or 2 gels (200 cals total) 2 to 5 hours: Accelerade with Carb Pro in water bottles on bike (320 cals per hour). 1 gel every 45 mins on run with plenty of water that Has NUUN tablets. 5+ hours: I do the above on the bike, but add some solid food like a clif bar or fig newtons.
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2008-09-14 11:47 AM in reply to: #1673017 |
Extreme Veteran 356![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Orlando, Florida | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?brown_dog_us - 2008-09-14 11:48 AM I haven't noticed a difference between the various brands of gel other then taste. The one thing to point out, is I have been using power gels which have 200mg of sodium. Previously I was using Gu's which have like 25 or 40 mg (cant remember the exact amt) which meant I also needed to use some sort of electrolyte supplement. Since switching to power gels, I have been able to skip the electrolytes. At the very least this saves me a little money. |
2008-09-14 11:54 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Veteran 749![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?I don't use them in a sprint. Your body has enough reserves to last for this kind of distance and at the pace you will maintain your body won't be able to break down whats in your stomach. Even if it does try to, it will be sending blood there to help in digestion but you will need that in your working muscles. Use them for longer distances. John. |
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2008-09-14 4:23 PM in reply to: #1673066 |
Veteran 224![]() ![]() Cumming, GA | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?jrm - 2008-09-14 11:54 AM I don't use them in a sprint. Your body has enough reserves to last for this kind of distance and at the pace you will maintain your body won't be able to break down whats in your stomach. Even if it does try to, it will be sending blood there to help in digestion but you will need that in your working muscles. Use them for longer distances. John. Interesting thought about blood flow! |
2008-09-14 6:34 PM in reply to: #1673295 |
Elite 3658![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?abbagej - 2008-09-14 5:23 PM jrm - 2008-09-14 11:54 AM I don't use them in a sprint. Your body has enough reserves to last for this kind of distance and at the pace you will maintain your body won't be able to break down whats in your stomach. Even if it does try to, it will be sending blood there to help in digestion but you will need that in your working muscles. Use them for longer distances. John. Interesting thought about blood flow! It's true. It takes energy to digest things and that comes from your blood. If you are going all out your body will shut down the digestive tract to put all the energy into exercising. note: we are oversimplifying this. |
2008-09-14 10:29 PM in reply to: #1672962 |
21 | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?I was wondering this too on a sprint...sounds like I don't need it. I was thinking of drinking a gatorade during the bike and that should be fine. |
2008-09-15 7:43 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Veteran 224![]() ![]() Cumming, GA | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?I think I'm going to try watered-down Accelerade. I was worried about the logistics of trying to open a gel on the bike anyways. I know I can lean over and grab a bottle off my bike without wiping out. This might just be the best option all around. |
2008-09-15 9:12 AM in reply to: #1672962 |
Extreme Veteran 311![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Gel or not to Gel?Taking a gel on the bike might not be a bad idea. I have gone both ways (taking one and not), and quite frankly didn't notice much difference. Most of the gels can be torn open with your teeth, so keeping one hand on the wheel is not a problem. |
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