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2008-09-16 9:48 AM

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K. Doing Rim to Rim on the 28th and I keep hearing and reading to start carb loading the week before, not just the day before.  WHY?  I can only think of 2 reasons. 

1) eases digestive system into certain diet.  HMMM, tying on the feedbag (in the am anyhow) never gives me problems, probably because I don't push myself as hard as others. 

2) since runners tend to be lean, they need to add a few extra ounces so they have something to burn off during the event.  Well, not a problem.  I have enough for a few races, and then some!

 So, WHY carb load for the whole week before?  There's no way what I eat on Mon will be giving me energy on the following Sun.

 And, question for the ladies - can I use Glide EVERY WHERE??  Or, is there something better for chaffing in those sensitive areas? 

 



2008-09-16 10:16 AM
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When I was Mary training I wondered the same thing. It has to do with topping up your glycogen stores the best you can. I just grabbed this off the net. Its not about eating heavy carbs all week. Although your event is different than a marathon (longer) so who knows. More carbs? I am sure there are some people in your hiking group that have some tips on that right? I just know eating too many carbs the week before leaves me sluggish and tired.

Done properly, carbohydrate-loading with the proper foods can help you maintain your marathon goal pace longer in the race. The reason this works is that muscle glycogen—the energy needed for running—can be loaded up in a runner’s legs to twice their normal level. The more glycogen you have in your legs, the longer you can run.

Conversely, when the body depletes its glycogen store in the muscles, marathoners hit the proverbial "wall." Again, if you can store up as much glycogen as possible in the days before the marathon, you can maintain your endurance longer.

Sounds good. But how do you do it?

It's not hard. In this final week before the marathon, you eat a normal, healthy diet for the first three or four days with carbs making up approximately 50 percent of your total calories. (Check the labels and a cookbook for serving sizes and caloric content.)

Starting on Thursday, you should boost your carbohydrate intake to about 70 percent (or higher) of your total calories.

During this final week, you should be reducing your total volume of running anyway, and with that reduction in your running and the increase in carbohydrates, you will be able to store a greater amount of muscle glycogen than if you were running and eating normally.

The type of carbohydrates you eat does make a difference. You should go for complex carbohydrates such as pasta, veggies, rice, cereals, fruits, potatoes and others, rather than simple carbohydrates like cookies, cakes and candy.

Protein will not help a great deal, but you don’t have to avoid it. The more protein you eat, the less carbs you can cram in—and carbs are what you need. So it's an easy choice.

When you are carbo-loading, that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to eat substantially more than normal. Only the percentage of carbs should be upped, not the total intake.

Carbohydrate-loading only works when you’re running an hour or longer. So it won’t make any difference in shorter races, such as a 5-K. But carbo-loading is especially useful in the a marathon, which will eventually deplete the muscle glycogen stores.

The problem is you can only store a finite amount of glycogen in your muscles—not enough for most runners to complete the 26.2-mile marathon. Most runners will run out of glycogen after about three hours of running. When that happens, you run out of gas and you will experience a huge drop off in your ability to run.

Since few of us can run a three-hour marathon, the only way to avoid the dreaded wall is to take on carbohydrates during the race so you don't run out of glycogen.

The best way to do this is either by drinking carbohydrate sports drinks during the race and/or using carbohydrate gels, Gus or Shot Bloks.

You should drink carbohydrate sports drinks about every 20 minutes of AT&T. PowerAde is the drink of choice. This will not only prevent dehydration, but replace the muscle glycogen you are depleting as you run

You should be familiar with the various gels by now. The gels are thick, carbohydrate-rich products that are available under such brand names as Gu, Hammer Gel, PowerGel, Cliff Shots or Bloks and others. These come in packets that contain 100-125 calories of quickly digestible carbs that you can slam down with some water. Since you’ll need water to get them down, you should plan to take your energy gels at an aid station. (Note: Don’t take any gels or Gus with sportsdrink. Use only water.)

The AT&T aid stations will not have energy gels, so you’ll either need to carry a supply with you or have someone give you a few packets along the course. Most marathoners carry them in pockets in their shorts or clip them onto their shorts. Some running shorts made by BOA have specially designed pockets in the back for carrying gel packs.

Carbohydrate-reloading is also important in the first two hours after the marathon. The sooner you reload your muscles with the same complex carbs you loaded with, the quicker you’ll recover.

When you load or reload, it is also important to drink plenty of water as it helps the muscles absorb the carbohydrates. If you do load properly, you should have plenty of fuel in the long run.


RE: BODYGLIDE - OH YEAH I use it all over the place! No rules against where you can and cannot use it. What do you have in mind?

Edited by sportyj 2008-09-16 10:16 AM
2008-09-16 11:18 AM
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I've never carb loaded for long hiking/mountaineering trips. I honestly think it's more important to stay hydrated and keep eating during the trip than to worry about what you eat beforehand. Of course, you do want to make sure you're adequately fed beforehand so you're not starting hungry, but there's no need to really worry about it for the whole week. The last I read about carb-loading, the most important meal was your lunch the day before.
2008-09-16 1:25 PM
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Thanks! And while reading Jens' post I looked at the PowerAde sitting on my desk - ZERO carbs - I guess that's because it's PowerAde Zero.  I just never pay any attention to that. 
2008-09-16 1:27 PM
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He he! I think the ZERO versions taste better anyway! Sugary carby versions are ick. But you gotta do what you gotta do!
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