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2008-09-22 7:46 PM

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HI all, I want to know where people get thier equipment from if they are new to the sport (i mean brand new) i don't have a bike yet or the stuff to go with it. i have been using a stationary bike to help get my legs inshape for biking. But i went to a TRek store and (yes grant it i am overweight by 20 pound and old: 48) was not made to feel as if i should be gracing their store. now it could have only been that store and employees but i left the store, with out a bike and wondering where i can find a bike cheaper than the 2000$ price tag on the ones i was shown

Where do people get their fist bikes from? I want to do a 1/2 marathon before my 50th birthday so i have a year, and my goal is to finish, i have no misconceptions that i will be in any place but last (or almost last)which is fine with me.

Do i need a top-of-the line bike? what kind of bike do i need? i'm willing to go as high as 1000 but for my purposes and experience i don't know if i need to go that high.

Can i get away with doing most of my training on a good stationary bike until i get a road bike.

What about books, what is a good book for a newbie? i got one book and it was too advanced for that type of training that i am able to do so far. I need Tri-training 101.

Thanks for any information you can give me. Michele



2008-09-22 7:50 PM
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Do you mean half-Ironman?  Because you definitely don't need a bike to run a half-marathon.   

 

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2008-09-22 7:51 PM
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I got my first road bike from REI and I love it.

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LOL, Yes i mean a 1/2 Ironman
2008-09-22 8:00 PM
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THank you on the REI suggestion, i will look it up
2008-09-22 8:14 PM
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I have an REI store in my area. Now can i get away with buying a cheaper bike to start training on and the advance to a better bike, or should i go for the better bike now?


2008-09-22 8:24 PM
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Buy the best you can afford...it will do just fine and dandy...if they don't do fittings for free with a bike purchase...leave...there are a whole lot that will and its by far the most important part...a bike thats the wrong size or doesn't fit right will not get ridden no matter how much you pay for it...

I find that very odd about the Trek store...they should have jumped at the chance to help you out no matter your riding level...just search the yellow pages for another local bike shop if you don't want to go back there...

2008-09-22 8:27 PM
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THanks for the "fitting' advice. I don't know what was going on at the Trek store, maybe they wanted to go home but i dont' give up on people, i give them another chance, but i need options.
2008-09-22 8:45 PM
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 I bought an entry level road bike for around $700 from a bike shop that had helpful employees (sounds like the ones you were at weren't). You can get the bike fitted to you and purchase a few extra pieces of equip. A few I bought were:

-clipless pedals/shoes

-bike computer(speed distance cadence etc)

-An extra tube/flat tire repair kit (fits in a bag behind the seat)

-Helmut

-Bike shorts (with the pad built in)

-Water bottles etc

I got all that for around $1000 and they put it all on the bike for me.

My previous option was a $100 bike from Target which didn't fit me ,etc, etc and honestly that program can lead to injury.. but it was okay while I was deciding if this was for me!

2008-09-22 8:48 PM
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I'm brand new to the game as well,  I'll echo the earlier advice that a good fit is the most important part.  I finally settled on a Trek 1.2, its an entry level road bike and was a bit more than I initially wanted to spend but I was able to ensure that the bike was a good fit and got the added bonus of free tune ups for a year and establishing a relationship with the local bike shop.

I experienced something similar to the OP, there are only two bike shops in the town I live in, at the first place, the salesman told me about how much he liked mountain biking and suggested that I would probably be best off buying the $2500 full carbon fiber tri bike they had on display.  When I inquired about proper fit, the salesman stated that I was probably a "Medium" and since I was 5'8 just like him a "Medium" would do just fine.  I happen to be 5'10... when I asked about test riding a bike before I bought he happily proclaimed that he would let me take any bike in the shop out for a 10 minute spin.

The other shop in town took a genuine interest in what I was looking for, made several suggestions and allowed me to rent the model I was looking at for the day free of charge, and took some time both on the rental bike and on the one I purchased to make sure it fit properly.  As a fairly uneducated newbie, I did as much research on my own as possible, but in the end it was as important to buy the bike from the right place, as it was choosing the bike.



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2008-09-22 9:07 PM
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I keep hearing rumors that some places have helpful bike shop employees, but so far I haven't found any.

They seem to enjoy the smells of their own farts, and the smugness is sickening.

I keep waiting to meet some nice, helpful, down-to-earth bike shop employees...and trying my hardest not to stereotype them in the mean time.

 

Good luck on your equipment search.  Have you checked bikesdirect.com yet?  They have very cheap off-brand frames with name brand components.  Only thing to keep in mind is you need a professional to help pick out a size for you, and then you will have to take the bike once it's shipped and have it professional put together and then fit to you.

2008-09-22 9:43 PM
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I just finished IMKY (Ironman Kentucky) on a $1100 bike GIANT OCR2. My GIANT has lasted me 5 years with little to no equipment issues and is FAST. For the most part, it's the engine that makes a bike fast not the bike. And like others have said you can get a very nice bike for under $1000. Buy a cheaper road bike for now. You can ALWAYS upgrade the wheels and components in the future if you develop a love for the sport. Save your money...and go to a different store. I second the following equipment:

clipless pedals
(I recommend mountain bike shoes and pedals...you can walk in these without damaging them as opposed to road bike shoes)

a GOOD pair of bike/tri shorts
(trisports.com...remember you get what you pay for)

bike computer
(~$50)

Ask your bike dealer for some free water bottles....its free advertising for them.

Helmet....or people will feel inclined to yell rude comments at you.

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2008-09-22 9:56 PM
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I also find it hard to believe that Trek came at you, an admitted beginner, with a $2,000 pitch.  One of the great things about Trek as a company is that they've got a fantastic range of products from entry level to pro, and *everything* in between.  They know better, and should have worked with you in the $600 to $1,000 range ... which is a great range for you to be in if you've got the budget.

Is it possible for you to go back with a friend that knows a thing or two about bikes?  I love my new Trek (and my old one), and would hate for you to have a bad experience.  You shouldn't have to bring someone with you, but it might help.

Or shop around.  No need giving them your money if you feel you're not being treated well.  The experience should be fun and you should walk out of there excited about your first ride on the new bike! 

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kmill23 - 2008-09-22 9:48 PM Please avoid bikesdirect.com.  I'm sure it is great for people who want to dabble in triathlon, but you want to do a Half-Ironman.  Look for a better bike.  Giant OCR2 is a great bike! I had a TCR and loved it.  Stick to reputable brands, Specialized, Giant, Cervelo, Kestrel, Trek, Guru, the like.  You'll be much happier.  As a note for people who have used bikesdirect.com:  please don't hate me.
Out of curiosity, what is better about a Giant OCR2 vs a bike of comparable price on bikesdirect?

I am not asking out of snark, I am really curious to your opinion, because I am also bike shopping, and I am highly considering bikesdirect.  From my findings, you will get much higher level components on a similar frame for the same price.  Downside being no "name brand" and no bike store or name brand warranty.  What other pitfalls might I be missing that cause your dislike for that site?



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Me and my wife just went through the bike purchasing experience. I'll offer our experience for example of what I believe you should be looking for.

First store we went to scared the crap out of us. The guy just pointed across the room at some bikes and said which model he'd recommend for us before even asking what we were going to do with the bikes. We ran!

Second store was amazing. The owner happened to be working that night and talked with me and my wife for over 2 hours about our plans, the bikes he sells, the different models and their pros/cons. I also learned that he sells raleigh, specialized, lightspeed and quintana roo bikes/accessories. Oh, and while he no longer races, his wife is racing in kona this year. So that made me alot more comfortable with his knowledge. He recommended specialized bikes for both of us in our price range, sub $1k (and roughly matching what i expected based on digging through the forums here).

We didn't buy the first night, as I wanted to read some more, but ended up back at the shop a week later for test rides. Owner wasn't there but we were just as pleased with the sales guy, who happened to be his head mechanic. We learned even more with him and ended up putting deposits on bikes to pick up in a couple days with pedals and computers installed.

I got the specialized allez and my wife got the dolce. Both came with free fit and tune-ups for as long as we own the bikes. During the fit, he put us on a trainer with our bikes and walked us through all the bikes features. I felt really comfortable leaving with 2 bikes on the back of our car and the bikes have been a real pleasure to ride since.

As stated above, plan on some accessories: bike computer, bottle holder, water bottle, bike shorts, helmet, gloves, saddle bag, extra tube or two, tire levers, CO2 pump or tube pump, floor pump, patch kit, shoes, pedals, car rack. I believe I paid 900 for the bike itself and about 350 more for all the accessories i needed to get going. Same for my wife, and then obviously shared cost for the floor pump and car rack another 200.

Look for someone like that! And if you live in the DC Metro or Balt Metro area, stop by Patuxent Adventure Center in Solomons, MD! Dave was awesome!

 

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I see your point kmill23, I am just having a hard time swallowing the difference in component quality for around an 800-900 dollar budget.  On one hand with 900 bucks, I can get a Specialized Allez (with Sora/Tiagra) or a Giant OCR 2 (with Sora).

Or, from BD, I can get a bike with full Ultegra, upgraded Vuelta Pro wheels, free clipless pedals.  Keeping in mind that I would have to pay to have it put together and fit.

I guess the question I need to answer for myself is:  Is the huge upgrade in component quality worth the lack of free tune-ups, customer support, and a quality name brand and warranty?

(p.s. For what it's worth, I do not think frame quality is an issue worth considering.  Most of their frames are Kinesis, which I have heard is a good quality frame.)

In the end, I am the only one who can answer the question I posed above.  Luckily, I'm not looking to buy tomorrow, so I have some time to still think and agonize over it.



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2008-09-22 11:27 PM
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Have to put in my plug about being careful on Ebay..especially with a large purchase...not saying that its not a good way to go...just be smart about how you buy it.  (I speak from experience..my DH got taken for $2000 trying to buy a Trek several years ago...it delayed us getting married by almost a year.)


2008-09-23 4:48 AM
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WOW, thanks everyone for the posts and the advice. I will keep all this in mind. I will first do some reseach on the bikes that i think will be good for me, then go out armed with information. I can probably get a friend who is a cyclist to go to a store or two with me, thats a great suggestion. I am excited about finally beginning my training. I have wanted to do this since i saw a Hawaii Ironman competion on TV years ago. And i feel that with training i can do a 1/2 Ironman. the Ironman length at this time will be out of reach for me. (however someday....who knows)

Thanks everyone who responded this is a great site, very helpful, passionate, knowlegdable and friendly people
2008-09-23 5:57 AM
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I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with your local bike shop. I suggest you try another one (maybe even several) so you can look at different models of bikes and see what's out there. Do you know anyone in your area who cycles and is a little bit knowledgable about bikes? It might help to take someone with you to help you shop - someone who knows the right kinds of questions to ask....

All of the major bike manufacturers have bikes available at various price points - they pricing is pretty similar from manufacturer to manufacturer. The base model bike will come in under $1000, the next model up will be somewhere around $1200, and on up to bikes that are several thousand dollars. I think you probably want to be looking at a bike that is somewhere in the $1000 - $2000 price range to get the most bang for your buck. As others have said, you might be able to find some good discounts this time of year.

Used is always an option, but only if you have a good idea of what size frame you should be looking for (and it could be different from bike to bike) and whether or not it's a good deal. Again, having someone who is knowledgable about bikes help you check out used bikes would be very helpful. Sometimes you can find good used bikes on Craigslist, etc.

When are you planning to do your half-ironman? For now, the exercise bike is fine to begin conditioning yourself for cycling, but you definitely want to get a real bike and get out on the road to train eventually, and the sooner the better.

Good luck with your shopping and training!
2008-09-23 7:06 AM
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My advice is to keep hitting every LBS you can go to.  I travel for my job and visited bike shops in 4 different cities in 2 different states.  I figured even if they didn't have a bike for me, I would learn something by stopping there.  Last week I walked into a bike shop (30 minutes from home) to ask them about what they might have.  They showed me a Giant Trinity A2, which is a $1600  tri bike, and said they are blowing these out for $699.  I almost started to jump up and down right in the store.  They spent the time fitting it to me and will give me a free tuneup in 30-60 days.  I absolutely love my new bike
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