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2003-08-14 1:22 PM

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Subject: Time Trial Bike
Are all triathlon bikes time trial bikes? Or are they completely different animals? The reason why I ask is because someone made me an offer on pretty stacked TT bike but am not sure if it would be good for my needs.


2003-08-14 2:05 PM
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No they are not the same. A time trial bike has geometry where road cyclist can use the same muscle groups that they have used on their regular road biked. If you watched any of the Tour De France, you noticed that in the time trials they were really bent over to achieve the best aerodynamics.

A tri specific bike has different geometry so that you can use the muscles you have built up from running. There are a lot of similarities, but the basics from my research are that a tri specific bike is set up to put you in the best aero position and still maintain comfort for longer distances.

Many people who start cycling on a road bike adapt it for triathlons.

You may want to take a look at the following link:

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/bikes/difference.shtml

If you are interested in the bike, go to your bike shop and get measured for a bike (if you haven't already). If the bike frame is your size, then ask the seller if you can ride it for a week. See how you feel after you ride it a few times and then make your decision.



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2003-08-15 9:46 AM
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That is an excellent article!
2003-08-15 10:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Time Trial Bike
So a TT bike is a road bike with some Tri aspects to it?
2003-08-16 12:13 PM
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I would tend to say that a tri bike is a time trial bike that has adaptations to make it more comfortable. The geometry of a real TT bike is different than that of a tri specific bike.

You might get some input from false_aesthetic. After seeing the post on Cycling Shoes, Racing Bikes and the time that has been spent in a bike shop as a manager you might get a better explanation.

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2008-09-14 9:39 AM
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Mike,

 Thanks for sharing this link.  The article was very informative.

 Mark



2008-09-14 9:55 AM
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Time Trial bike is same as tri bike from what I know.

Time trial bike is what road racers use for time trials which is actually the same concept we do in tris...test of how fast we can go over certain distance then we get to run afterwards.

Many of the racers in my bike race team have cheap time trial or tri bikes as they don't ride them often and when they do they ride shorter distances...aero is more important than comfort.

Tri bikes or TT bikes can be fit to an individual based on type of events they do. My tri bike was fit for me given my A race was a hilly Ironman so it was not set up very steep or low front end. If I was going for shorter races or flatter my bike fit would have set it up with a lower front end.

What kind of bike do they have?



Edited by KathyG 2008-09-14 9:55 AM
2008-09-14 10:27 AM
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Yes, a TT bike and triathlon bike are the same although a bike used in a triathlon may be set up less aggressively than a bike used for a pure TT due to the need to run after the bike leg in a triathlon.

For example, the Felt DA is used in the professional peleton as a TT bike (eg. by the Garmin Chipotle team) and also by pro triathletes (eg. Tim Deboom).

2008-09-14 11:33 AM
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Edited by bachorb 2008-09-14 11:34 AM
2008-09-14 12:17 PM
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There are a couple rule differences too, if you look at pro TT bikes and Tri bikes. One of the big ones is that the UCI rules state that the nose of the saddle must be 5cm behind the bottom bracket. So you see a lot of riders waaaaaaay up on the nose of the saddle, or just riding saddles with the nose chopped off. There are also rules about aero bar angles, yadda yadda.

 It seems that most elite-level TT guys are adopting the steeper seat tube angles these days for the sake of aerodynamics, though, so the bikes seem to be looking more and more the same.

For instance, here's Dave Zabriskie, who holds the claim for fastest TT in the history of the Tour de France. His P3C's seat angle is at 78 degrees too, and he's much further forward on the saddle, making it more like an effective 80+ degree angle.

 

Here's TT world champion Fabian Cancellara. He's a little further back, but you can see that his and Dave Z's positions are pretty similar:




Edited by DrPete 2008-09-14 12:23 PM
2008-09-14 12:26 PM
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like drpete said, other than rule differences, a TT bike and triathlon bike are the same thing. between the two, one may be setup more aggressively than the other, but they are the same bike.


2008-09-14 4:09 PM
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Think of the bike leg of a triathlon as a time trial. Same bike principles. Like DrPete stated, UCI rules dictate the main differences. 
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