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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi all...wanted some advice/opinions. First, let me say that I admire and respect the job that firefighters do. It's a dangerous, tough job, and I believe they are severly underpaid and don't get enough recognition for the risks they take. I could go on for a while about that, but here's the deal... My husband participated in a "Citizen's Fire Academy" in my area, designed to help the general public learn about what a firefighter does on a daily basis. They got to wear the gear, put out fires, climb the ladders, learn CPR, etc. On top of that, firefighting seems to be very popular in the media right now, movies (Ladder 49), t.v. (a show about Boston firefighters on Discovery)....so, it's really on his mind right now. He's expressed interest in becoming a firefighter, looking in to what the requirements might be for some departments in our area., and we talked about what it might be like if he pursued it. I was very honest, I said I was worried that he's seen the "glamourous" side of it, does he recognize the unglamourous (eg dangerous) side of it? And that it was very dangerous-what if something happened to him? The thought obviously upsets me. In this area, you have to be a paramedic as well as a firefighter. I don't know if he realizes what he might have to deal with as a paramedic. Also, We don't have a family yet, so right now the schedules not so much of an issue, but when a family comes along, it seems that balancing a family with that schedule would be very difficult. And, financially, I don't know if we could afford for his drop in salary should he pursue this. I have heard that the divorce rate is very high among firefighters. Yes, I do know that the rewards from this job would be great (my husband says, right now his job is very low risk=low reward, but fire fighting is high risk=high reward). And I know that the firehouse really is like a family, and it seems like they take care of each other. I guess the bottom line is I'm scared for the reasons mentioned above, and I haven't found really great sources of information to help educate me. I talked to a firefighters wife, she just said it's not that bad. The fire chief at the house where he did the citizen's academy said don't talk to him, he's divorced. If anyone out there can give me some advice and/or help educate me a little more about being married to a firefighter, I'd appreciate it. Thanks BTers! Edited by alreed 2005-10-05 12:24 PM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I worked as a volunteer EMT for my town years ago, and you'd be surprised what you can "handle". There's a few cases that are memorable---the ones involving kids are the hardest--- But overall, it's okay. I dated a full-time fireman for almost a year. The bad thing was that he had to take shifts however they fell. So if he was scheduled for Christmas, or New Years or Thanksgiving---then he worked. That could stink at times. But I could visit him at the firestation, and he had plenty of "off time" as well. The work seemed to come in spurts---he'd have shifts where nothing would happen (and it would be boring) and then other shifts when they had back to back to back calls. So every day is different. As far as safety goes---It's definitely a risky job, but I think that as long as they're with a good crew, then that is minimized. But the good thing was the amount of satisfaction that he obviously got from his job as a fireman/paramedic. He'd ask me how my day went, and I'd talk about negotiations with a sales rep. I'd ask how his day went, and he'd talk about the heart attack victim they resurected, or the person in diabetic shock that they revived, or the car accident that they responded to. I was always jealous because he was having a REAL IMPACT on people's lives. Making a difference in life or death situations. In my opinion, if it is really his DREAM to be a firefighter, then you should encourage him to pursue it. You don't want him to turn 40 and have a midlife crisis sitting at a desk somewhere saying "I always wanted to be a fireman but you wouldn't let me." |
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Queen BTich ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bettylou - 2005-10-05 1:44 PM . In my opinion, if it is really his DREAM to be a firefighter, then you should encourage him to pursue it. You don't want him to turn 40 and have a midlife crisis sitting at a desk somewhere saying "I always wanted to be a fireman but you wouldn't let me." I'm not one to be giving out marraige advice, so you don't have to listen to me. But my opinion is that you should express your concerns to him, talk about them. If this really is his dream, isn't it your duty to support his decision? I wouldn't want to hold back the person I loved, and if something happened to him on the job at least he was doing something fullfilling that he wanted to do. Not to be too morbid, but he can always have a heart attack or have something happen in the car on the way to his job now. Let him follow his dream (unless you think this is just a little phase, then let him explore it and then he'll probably change his mind). |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I would encourage it. One of my very good friends is a fireman, (thats me wearing his helmet!) and I can honestly say that he and his wife are THE happiest and in-love couple that I've ever met. You certainly don't want to discourage something that he's serious about (Image053_scott.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Image053_scott.jpg (30KB - 14 downloads) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PM smokeater1833. He's a firefighter; he might have some insight. alreed, where in OH are you? And where's the "Run Like Hell" race? Columbus? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() What does your husband do now? The reason why I ask that is well, all the firefighters I've known as well as cops don't have other jobs EVER. They just seem to be born firefighters or police officers. I was a police/fire reporter for years which means I spent more time with firemen and cops than many of their wives since I worked the same shift. And almost to a "T" every one of them wanted to be a fireman from birth it seems. It wasn't something they thought about in high school or college. It was something they knew they wanted to be since they were a little boy. It was almost as if you told them they couldn't be a fireman they would look at you and say, "Well, what the heck else is there?" I was so enthralled with them and their lifestyle (I went through the police citizens academy as well) that I toyed with being a cop. It's that addictive. And glamourous as you say. But the one thing I learned is that being a firefighter or cop is more about the mundane daily things (at least in the small town where I worked) than in the exiciting and glamorous things. Cops and firefighters have the unbelievable capacity to tolerate the moronic and grinding side of life. I so admire them for it. And I honestly don't know how they do it without going nuts (hence the divorce I assume). They're relentless in their need to be a firefighter or cop much to the chagrin of family and friends. I've known men and women who take the test two, three sometimes even four times because they can't see being anything else. I guess I say all this to say if your husband is REALLY serious than there might not be nothing you can say to talk to him out of it. But - maybe you should wait a while on your hubby. He might have gotten the addictive side of the life and then after a few months give up. It can happen and there's nothing wrong with it. But if he continues then you should let your concerns be known so he understands. Because it won't just be HE that is the firefighter, you as a spouse will have to deal with the hours and the stress as well. It's a partnership. O. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stupidnickname - 2005-10-05 1:02 PM And where's the "Run Like Hell" race? Columbus? If you're speaking of the "Run Thru Hell" race, it is in Hell, Michigan near Ann Arbor (Buckeyes love hearing that Hell is near Ann Arbor) Actually, near Pinckney, MI. It's every August, when it is HOT AS HELL, and it's 10-miles up and down rutty dirt hill roads. No gatorade. No port-a-potties on the course. Just plain water, and use the woods, eh? As the race organizer says, "It's Hell. Get over it." You get a fun T-shirt that says, "I Ran Thru Hell." My best friend and running partner is a preacher's wife and we thought that she should have a shirt like that! Sorry for the thread hyjack. Sometimes fireman do the "Run Thru Hell"---(did that get us back on track?) |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My buddy is a fireman here in IL, northside of Chicago. He absolutely loves his job. He is a college Graduate and pursued another line of work first for about a year then went into firefighting. Since then hes been doing it for almost 6 years now. He makes good money and works 24 hours on 48 hours off. He gets his fair share of calls when he is working but there are the days when you only get a call or two. He also doubles as a paramedic which I think is required now a days around here. If this is something your husband is serious about you might want to get him started earlier than later. you mentioned that you don't have a family yet so the sooner he can gain seniority the soone he can choose his days off if thats a major concern for you. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() alreed - 2005-10-05 12:16 PM Yes, I do know that the rewards from this job would be great (my husband says, right now his job is very low risk=low reward, but fire fighting is high risk=high reward). I'm not sure if I misunderstood this sentence, but risk and reward are not necessarily linked. Jumping out of an airplane without a parachute is high risk, NO reward. Being alive to raise a family is low risk, GREAT reward. If I didn't get your meaning right, forget what I said. Good luck, whichever way y'all decide! |
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Elite Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'll chime in with the dissenting opinion, just because I was in a similar situation with my husband when we first got together 12 years ago. At that time, he was pursuing the idea of becoming a police officer. He had actually gotten a job as a maintenance worker at the local police department because where we lived, it helps to expedite the process if you have an "in". That's where he worked when we met, but I did not know his reasoning, to me that was just where he worked. So after we'd been together a while, he started talking about it. I listened to everything he said very carefully. I came to the conclusion that he wanted to be a police officer because he thought it would be exciting, and interesting, and he'd have the chance to help people, that it would be a way for him to better himself, have a repectable career, make some decent money (although I believe they are still woefully underpaid). So based on that, what I said was: "If your father and grandfather and uncles were all policemen, and you had always known you were going to be a policeman since you were a boy, and it was your only dream career, then I would feel like I had to support this decision - because I do not want to ever stand in the way of your dreams. But after talking this out, I see that your main interest in becoming a police officer is because you want to make something of yourself, something you think is of value. So I feel that I can freely tell you that I do not want you to make this career choice. I am afraid that the danger, the stress, the erratic schedule, would put us in danger of not making it, and that scares me more than anything. I am not so arrogant to think that we are more in love than any of the other couples who've gotten divorced over the husband's career in law enforcement. And I would be worried sick about you every time you walked out the door. So you can ultimately make your own decision about this, but I needed you to know how I felt. And just for the record, I think that you are worth the whole world, no matter what kind of a job you have". So he decided not to pursue it - and it has come up a couple of times over the years for whatever reason, some conversation on related subjects, and he says he's glad he did not do it. And he subsequently learned a different trade that he is very satisfied with , so it was a happy ending. That's my story anyway. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok, well here is my .02 on your dilemna. I ahve been involved in the fire/ emergency medical feild for 26 yrs. Paramedic for 20 and currently deputy. Granted, cape cod isnt boston, NYC or even Columbus but the job is the same when it comes. 1. I think the divorce rate is the same if not less than the "average" of the general population. relationships are relationships-between 2 people. If there are problems then they can be exacerbated by "the job", but anything for an excuse for the basic problems of a relationship. Make it good by communication, love and give and take. 2. The schedule. Yup, rotating schedule, Plenty of days off in between, but long hours when working. He will work days, nights, some holidays, bsome birthdays, some anniversaryies, etc. What we call-"holiday routine- holiday for them (citizens) and routine for us (f/f's). You will have plenty of time to be together. He does not have to get into the whole 'hang with the firefighters, all the time" but some time will help him at work. Your marriage must be most important to the both of you. 3. Danger- Yup, it can be dangerous. We laugh and say (no disrespect intended to coasties ![]() The biggest danger for firefighters lives now is heart attacks from being out of shape (not from sucking smoke like the old days) and emergency vehicle accidents repsonding to and from alarms 4. Pay- You wont get rich. If its big money and lavish stuff you guys dig then be a stock broker or real estate. But you will do alright.. The money is good. Overtime helps, but that can be addicting and 'blood money". 5. Get him to take the test, take a class, get his EMT and work on an ambulance part time, get him in shape, both do some research on the subject. If he is successful with the test, and with the physical agility test and physical docters exam AND he gets a job offer.....then REALLY decide together at that point . Hope it helps for what it s worth, PM me if you have any more question |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() When my wife and I got together in college, she had no idea that I had even pondered the idea of being a cop. In fact, she didn't know until we were engaged, and out of school. At first she addressed concern about the safety (I work in a fairly large city) and then there was the aspect of job related stress and the effect it could have on our marriage. Most police/firefighters are very well trained in this day and age, and with that advanced training comes more safety. The jobs will never be 100% safe, but statistically I have just as much chance (if not more) of getting killed/injured in my car on the way to work (or on my bike) than being killed/injured at work. As far as the stress is concerned...my advise is listen, and if he doesn't want to talk about something he has seen, give him time and ask him again. Typically people that pursue careers in fields such as these have a certain sense of altruism, and we typically see people at their worst, or at least having the worst day of their lives. This WILL wear on anyone after a while, so I can't stress enough how important it is to communicate. My wife is a first grade teacher and absolutely hates ( as I'm sure most people do) hearing anything about kids, but she understands that I hate dealing with it too and listens.....this is why the job will never come between us. I hope this helps a little!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() In response to your PM, I have been a fulltime firefighter/paramedic for seven years. 1. Awesome job, I love to help people. 2. Great work schedule, I work 24hr's ten days a month. Though it doesn't seem like alot, I work a 56 hr workweek. 3. I work in a suburban fire fighter and will make close to $70,000 this year. This is top pay in our area. If you work in an urban area or big city the pay isn't as much, then again you are usually only a firefighter and not a paramedic also. 4. I deal with the psychological stresses easy, it's the stresses on my body that are worse. I.E. partially torn rotator cuff, scoped left knee and tore trap muscle in the seven years I have been a firefighter. 5. Being ex-military the transition was easy for me, example taking orders, rank structure etc. 6. To make decent coin you pretty much have to be a paramedic these days, which can take some time. 7. As far as divorce rate being higher than avg. I say bullshit, it just depends on how you deal with stress and your partner, love overcomes all things IMO. 8. If anything I am thinking of going to med school in the next year just because of the toll on my body and I am always looking for new challenges. 9. Most fire departments are like family and we take care of our own. 10. I can honestly say I feel as if I can handle any situation that is put in my way and I like that. 11. The absolute worst thing about the job is my sleep schedule will never be the same and I have developed very bad insomnia and it wil never get better. Just part of the job. 12. The sky is the limit as far as advancement, I don't like that it can be so political sometimes, but then again what job isn't. 13. It gives me ample time to train !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14. Lastly, I am a practical joker so it gives me plenty of time to mess with people at work. Check out firehouse.com there is tons of info there any other ?'s drop me a PM. Hope it helped, Andy (: |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() c2fd - 2005-10-05 12:59 PM Ok, well here is my .02 on your dilemna. I ahve been involved in the fire/ emergency medical feild for 26 yrs. Paramedic for 20 and currently deputy. Granted, cape cod isnt boston, NYC or even Columbus but the job is the same when it comes. 1. I think the divorce rate is the same if not less than the "average" of the general population. relationships are relationships-between 2 people. If there are problems then they can be exacerbated by "the job", but anything for an excuse for the basic problems of a relationship. Make it good by communication, love and give and take. 2. The schedule. Yup, rotating schedule, Plenty of days off in between, but long hours when working. He will work days, nights, some holidays, bsome birthdays, some anniversaryies, etc. What we call-"holiday routine- holiday for them (citizens) and routine for us (f/f's). You will have plenty of time to be together. He does not have to get into the whole 'hang with the firefighters, all the time" but some time will help him at work. Your marriage must be most important to the both of you. 3. Danger- Yup, it can be dangerous. We laugh and say (no disrespect intended to coasties ![]() The biggest danger for firefighters lives now is heart attacks from being out of shape (not from sucking smoke like the old days) and emergency vehicle accidents repsonding to and from alarms 4. Pay- You wont get rich. If its big money and lavish stuff you guys dig then be a stock broker or real estate. But you will do alright.. The money is good. Overtime helps, but that can be addicting and 'blood money". 5. Get him to take the test, take a class, get his EMT and work on an ambulance part time, get him in shape, both do some research on the subject. If he is successful with the test, and with the physical agility test and physical docters exam AND he gets a job offer.....then REALLY decide together at that point . Hope it helps for what it s worth, PM me if you have any more question
My sister in law is a fire fighter(that's right, sister in law), paramedic, and RN. I also have 3 very good friends who are fire fighters, grew up with a guy whose dad was a firefighter, and lived across the street from a fire fighter. My sister in law is single, but the other 3 are very happily married and have been for many years now. In fact I don't know any divorced fire fighters but know several divorced businessmen. Yes there is danger, but if it's your time it is your time. Nothing you do or don't do is going to change that. As for the money, the schedule of the fire fighter allows for plenty of time for off duty jobs to make a little extra. My sister in law(keep in mind she is single and this may be why) works her normal shifts at the fire station and also basically works full time at a hospital. She makes a minimum of $70k per year. 1 of the guys I know works part time for a contractor. 1 of the guys wife is a hair stylest who can make her own hours. They have 2 small children so while he is on duty she does not take any appointments so she can be home with the kids. She does her hair appointments on his days off and he stays with the kids. It works for them. There is a lot of flexibility. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hijack on! stupidnickname - 2005-10-05 1:02 PM And where's the "Run Like Hell" race? Columbus? Bettylou - 2005-10-05 2:08 PM If you're speaking of the "Run Thru Hell" race, it is in Hell, Michigan near Ann Arbor No, she PM'd me, it's a crazy night time race through a cemetery in Cincinnati Hijack off! Edited by stupidnickname 2005-10-05 8:50 PM |
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Wife, Mother, Friend. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My BIL is a fireman. He loves it. He was looking for a job that kept him in the hokey little town of Biloxi vs moving to Chicago. He wanted to move back home up north,my sister wanted to stay home. He went to fireschool instead. He's moved up to driver now. He's got it made pretty much, works five 24 hour shifts a month. My sister plans her days off around his work schedule so he can watch the kids. But of course, then came a hurricane and he had to stay through it all. He called the next day and said he was so upset about the amount of bodies they were recovering. There was a bunch of out of town firemen who came to assist in the recovery efforts and ended up helping him gut his house down to the bare bones. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just want to say Thanks! for all the great words of advice! It's always good to hear it from people that have real experience and know people or work in that field. Thanks so much! |