is sasquatch real?

Another good reason to use sources other than the internet to gather information.

There was a guy years ago who, after he died, had his family reveal that he was behind most of those bigfoot hoaxes.

If Jane Goodall actually believes that bigfoot exists, it may only prove that she is losing her mind.

Humans can be made to believe almost anything, and the best way to go about it is through lies and half-truths. Supplement that with an overriding will to believe on the part of the listener and you're in business.

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Yes, definitely real. I even found a picture:





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Wow, what a coincidance.  I'm watching a documentary on cable right now about Big Foot.  Don't believe a word of it though.

agreed, which is why i have links to an article from the bbc as well an interview on 'science friday' from npr




the theory on that is that after there were real footprints found, this guy made lots of others on his own to sell and make a profit off the media coverage. according to people who believe in bigfoot, the wallace family wanted to get more attention and that's why they brought the story out again after mr. wallace died. like i said above, i have no doubt that a huge number of reportings are fake, but i don't know if all of them are.



yea, but its jane goodall! she's probably smarter than most of us to start with, so even if she IS losing her mind - i believe her!



i would love to believe in these creatures - same goes for ghosts, unicorns, fairies, etc...all things my preschooler believes are real. there isn't much to prove that fairies are real (although, don't tell ella that), unicorns we know were made from finding norwhal horns, ghosts may be a matter of faith, and until yesterday, i thought the sasquatch was a hoax - people walking around in fake feet and gorilla suits. now i'm not so sure.

we humans tend to believe we've discovered everything 'but a handful of cures to common disease (all of which we're working on). still, western science believed that legends of an ape like creature living in the mountains were just that - legends and myth - until someone other than a native finally saw a mountain gorilla. until the early 1900s, they were thought to be just a myth. same goes for the panda. we were also sure that coelacanths were extinct for the 70 million years, only to be caught off the coast of south africa. we don't know everything.

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i read that the 'chupacabra' they found in texas (two of them) turned out to be coyotes w/ mange. it may be that's how the whole myth started in the first place - bald, sickly coyotes?

as for nessie - a lot of that was also a hoax, but i wouldn't be surprised if some plesiosaurs survived the mass extinction 250 million years ago. many animals and plants on land were wiped out, but the impact in the oceans was less so. many animals we take for granted today (crocodiles, sharks, turtles) survived, while the land dinosaurs were wiped out ('cept for smaller types that may or may not have evolved into birds - although the common theory now is that birds and some dinosaurs shared a common ancestor, versus birds evolving directly from dinosaurs). anyway, i think its possible a hand full of plesiosaurs could have survived, and that the original nessie might have been one of those.

is it the one with leanord nemoy?

what we really need are a picture of your feet!

has anyone ever asked what KIND of bear you are? grizzly? or common black? i bet a grizzly could take out a sasquatch, but black bears are cupcakes in comparison.

Yeah, I know we don't know everything. I can see us continuing to discover many many things. But I cannot see us discovering an 8 foot tall, 800 lb primate in the lower 48.

Can I prove that sasquatch does not exist? Of course not. Can anybody prove that it does? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

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Yes, I saw him at 6th and Market Streets in San Francisco.

its hard to believe that an 8 foot tall anything would slip past unseen. BUT - they HAVE been seen, not just since the term 'bigfoot' was coined, but there are stories of ape-like creatures in many native american cultures going back before a time when they could have seen any of the apes we know today (from asia and africa). in the pacific northwest, people and even aircraft have been lost in the massive woods never to be seen again. not too hard to believe that there might be animals deep in the woods that we've never seen, even if they are big.

one of the things that has me thinking twice is the giganto theory. it proposes that sasquatch may have evolved from gigantopithecus blacki. gigantopithecus proposed size, diet, and habitat match that of the legendary sasquatch. 200,000 years ago they lived along side homo ergaster (aka homo erectus). they are thought to have gone extinct, but we thought the same of the coelacanths which was supposed to have died out long before gigantopithecus blacki even evolved.

many people think we're one of the only bi-pedal ape to have lived on this planet. people know homo sapiens (us), homo erectus, and maybe neanderthal, but there is a huge list of others, including gigantopithecus (there's australopithecus afarensis, gigantopithecus blacki, homo ergaster (aka homo erectus), homo habilis, heidelbergensis, neanderthalensis, rudolfensis, paranthropus boisei, and us. many of these lived at the same time - check out this dvd from the bbc: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/prehistoric_life/tv_radio/wwcavemen/...

two new animals were recently discovered in the depths of the jungles, either of which could be a new species. in both cases, all they have are reported sightings, a few fuzzy photographs, and (maybe) some hair samples:

bili ape, congo: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0414_030314_strange...

new species of cat, borneo: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1378058

It snatches planes out of the air now too?

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yup, they are that big

As I said, it is impossible to prove a negative. Do UFOs exist? I don't think so, but I can't prove it. Do Oompaloopas exist? I doubt it, but I can't prove it. Do hobbits exist? Probably not, but I can't prove it. Do fairies exist, and if so, how many can dance on the head of a pin?

I could go on, but if you're predisposed to believe something (the colon cleansing thread in the Injuries and Health comes to mind) nothing I can say can make you believe otherwise.

Is there anything provable, anything conclusive that could persuade the majority of natural scientists of the existence of sasquatch? No, that's why eyewitness reports and circumstantial "evidence" is cited so often.

ding ding ding! we have a winner. hobbit sized hominids were real:


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1027_041027_homo_fl...

I saw an Oompa Loompa a few weeks ago.

Are we talking about the same thing? Are you arguing that sometime in the existence of the planet there may have been something similar to sasquatch, or are you arguing that there is a sasquatch in existence and living on Earth today?

Similarly, are you arguing that hobbits are scurrying around Australia as we speak? ("G'day Frodo, what say ye to some widgety grubs"?)

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