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2006-05-25 2:57 PM

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Subject: Gear Goddesses v Gods of Gear - proposed rules
Let me know what you think.

June Gear Goddess Reunion & Challenge to Gods of Gear

Rules/Guidelines

  • The purpose of this challenge is to encourage the attainment of a specific TITS goal.
  • TITS can be measured as distance or time.
  • Any goal over 100% will be tossed out for the purposes of calculating the winning team.
  • Calculate and pledge your goal for the month of June.  Races apply toward the count. Anounce your goal in this thread by June 1; you will then be added to the roster.
  • You are responsible for reporting your weekly volume to your team captain. Final numbers will be independently audited and verified by KPMG LLP or, in the event of their slacking, by me.
  • Participants must blog their TITS. If it's not blogged, it didn't happen for the purposes of this Challenge.
  • Reporting week begins Monday and ends Sunday. Please report weekly numbers by Monday morning. 

Determining Winning Team

Calculations for determining winning team will be done a little different than in the original Gear Goddess v Testosterbones Challenge. It will be a combination of % of team members who reached their goal + final percentage of aggregrate team goal attainment. In this way, both individual goal attainment and team effort both carry weight. It also levels the playing field if there are not equal number of team members. It will work like this:

  • Calculate the percentage of team members who reached their goal.
  • Calculate the aggregrate team goal attainment average (throwing out anything over 100%).
  • Average these 2 numbers. The team with the highest average of these two numbers wins.

Terms for Gods of Gear Loss Losing Team

Shall we have terms? Feel free to contribute your ideas.

Other Legally Binding Stuff:

  • Smack talking is not mandatory but certainly makes things a little more interesting.
  • Please don't take the smack talking personal. If you find yourself feeling like you've been slighted, have a cookie or go change your tire. You'll get cheers for being a good sport.
  • As with all challenges, this is an honor system, self-reporting challenge.

The ultimate goal is for you to meet your reasonable, attainable goal without injury. That’s what it’s all about. That, and a little smack talking.  Cookie?



Edited by Renee 2006-05-25 3:25 PM


2006-05-25 3:25 PM
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Please don't take the smack talking personal. If you find yourself feeling like you've been slighted, have a cookie or go change your tire. You'll get cheers for being a good sport.

Crap, Renee. I'm gonna look like a dope having two quotes from you in my sig.

2006-05-25 3:31 PM
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All the cool kids are doing it (double Renee sig line), Kimster.

BTW, you're leading the Goddesses. Thanks for volunteering.



Edited by Renee 2006-05-25 3:41 PM
2006-05-25 3:35 PM
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Uuuuhhhhhh, of course I'm doing it. Have you ever heard of me backing down from a challenge? Just need to calculate my times...

Leading it? Well, now really, Renee... everyone knows you're the born leader (and beautiful as well. have I told you how lovely you look today?) and a brilliant organizer. Perhaps you'd be better suited to the job.

2006-05-25 3:38 PM
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Renee:

We accept your terms, but will add a twist. 

As this is a good natured guys vs. girls competition ... then think we ought to one-up the effort by adding that each bike ride should be accompanied by at least a 10 minute run (thereby creating a mini-brick).  That way this competition will not only be about Time In The Saddle but also Bike And Lateral Lopings. 

Terms for Losing team = avatar of winning team's choice + signature lines for 1 month, starting July 1 and ending July 31.

Smack talk? Bring it ...

Lastly, in all seriousness, this is about setting obtainable goals and reaching them without injury.  As such a rule of thumb for the participants should be no more (or less, for that matter) than 10% difference from last month's total time in the saddle ... unless you are really, really sure that you can handle the increased volume.

The previous challenges paid dividends come race day at Gulf Coast. This challenge ought to do the same for our races throughout the rest of the season - if for no other reason than being better able to hobble through T2.

Now, we ride (and then run a little)!

2006-05-25 4:08 PM
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huengsolo - 2006-05-25 1:38 PM

Renee:

We accept your terms, but will add a twist. 

As this is a good natured guys vs. girls competition ... then think we ought to one-up the effort by adding that each bike ride should be accompanied by at least a 10 minute run (thereby creating a mini-brick).  That way this competition will not only be about Time In The Saddle but also Bike And Lateral Lopings. 

Terms for Losing team = avatar of winning team's choice + signature lines for 1 month, starting July 1 and ending July 31.

Smack talk? Bring it ...

Lastly, in all seriousness, this is about setting obtainable goals and reaching them without injury.  As such a rule of thumb for the participants should be no more (or less, for that matter) than 10% difference from last month's total time in the saddle ... unless you are really, really sure that you can handle the increased volume.

The previous challenges paid dividends come race day at Gulf Coast. This challenge ought to do the same for our races throughout the rest of the season - if for no other reason than being better able to hobble through T2.

Now, we ride (and then run a little)!

As Very Hot Team Captain for the Goddesses (Renee's name, not mine), I have to question your BALLS. One of the downfalls of such a mandate as you have presented with your BALLS, is that it disproportionately effects newbies and people who are just getting back into it, such as myself. I am very injury prone with running, If I ride 3 times a week and have to run 10 min after each time, I think that would increase my running volume to the point that of injury. I don't think one hard and fast rule for everyone is the answer. The other problem with your BALLS is in the logistics. It's not always easy to just run off the bike if you're wearing the wrong shorts... don't have your shoes handy, etc.

Maybe we should allow people to choose a number of bricks in the month as a secondary goal? That might make your BALLS more reasonable. But then how would be calculate it. If you don't fix your BALLS, I'm kicking your BALLS to the curb!

Oh, and I personally hate it when everyone changes their avatar to the same thing! Makes it too hard to read the boards... Other ideas?



2006-05-25 4:11 PM
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2006-05-25 4:16 PM
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Very Hot Team Captain - when you step up to the plate, you STEP UP! Nice swing!
2006-05-25 4:20 PM
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Renee - 2006-05-25 2:16 PM Very Hot Team Captain - when you step up to the plate, you STEP UP! Nice swing!

BALLS!

2006-05-25 4:29 PM
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HAH! That one left the park!
2006-05-25 4:33 PM
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2006-05-25 4:36 PM
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Kimmie, do you want to explain the raw mileage v % of goal distinction to the ballboy or shall I?

2006-05-25 4:42 PM
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Edited by oneword 2006-05-25 4:42 PM
2006-05-25 4:49 PM
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As Very Hot Team Captain for the Goddesses* (Renee's name, not mine), I have to question your BALLS. One of the downfalls of such a mandate as you have presented with your BALLS, is that it disproportionately effects newbies and people who are just getting back into it, such as myself. I am very injury prone with running, If I ride 3 times a week and have to run 10 min after each time, I think that would increase my running volume to the point that of injury.

I am not sure that 10 minutes of running after warming up on a bike for X miles is going to cause injury nor will an additional 30 minutes per week - unless that someone is prone to running injury(s). That person should receive a reprieve at the beginning of the month.

Another reprieve could be for people we are commuting to and from something.  After all, we want folks to get as much time in the saddle as possible ... including riding your bike to something you would otherwise drive to. (Plus riding with your shoes is a huge PIA!)

The other problem with your BALLS is in the logistics. It's not always easy to just run off the bike if you're wearing the wrong shorts... don't have your shoes handy, etc.

Wah! Pack your shoes and weather the 10 minutes in bike shorts.  While I am not particularly fond of it, I sometimes wear bike shorts on some of my longer rides and then jump into my running shoes.

There are no hard and fast feelings towards the BALLS initiative ... it is, however, a good practice for triathletes in that these meager 10 minutes does a lot to condition your legs for the T2 transition.  If the Goddesses are unwilling or unable to match the Gods challenge, we are reasonable enough to listen to your concerns.

Oh, and I personally hate it when everyone changes their avatar to the same thing! Makes it too hard to read the boards... Other ideas?

Care to up the ante?

* I see that flattery, no matter how apt, does indeed work, Ms. Renee-Talked-Me-Into-Being Team Captain!  The Gods will hereby address you Goddess Hottie!



Edited by huengsolo 2006-05-25 4:52 PM
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Mmmm yeah, I'm shaking in my stilettos, Oneword.

During last year's Gear Goddesses v Testosterbone challenge, a higher %age of women attained their goal than did men. The scoring was based strictly on overall % of goal (and anything over goal was counted) and the boys won even though a higher percentage of women met their goal (92%) than men.  

You might want to save your uhhh shout-outs for your teammates.



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huengsolo - 2006-05-25 2:49 PM

  The Gods will hereby address you Goddess Hottie!

I accept this term.

Must confer with Goddesses on others....



2006-05-25 6:04 PM
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My fellow Goddesses have decided we don't like your BALLS. We feel like this should be a biking challenge, pure and simple... only. It'll make for easier accounting as well. I know I don't have the time to track more than one of my goddesses activities...

Care to up the ante?

What do you suggest?

2006-05-25 6:19 PM
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Renee - 2006-05-25 5:52 PM

During last year's Gear Goddesses v Testosterbone challenge, a higher %age of women attained their goal than did men.....

Well when it's obvious that the weaker sex buttercup team sets these low-mileage goals just so they can claim to be a bunch of 100 per-centers, it calls for a bonus system of minimum mileage average per team.  Anyone can say they'll ride 75 miles per month and then puff out her their chest when they meet their goal.  I'm not even going to get into the fact that any single ride of less than 25 miles is about as much exercise as strolling to the refrigerator for a cold one.

We can do the miles, lose, and still feel the smugness.  Stop by this weekend and we'll show you how to ride a bike.

 

2006-05-25 6:20 PM
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Max, would you like to be an Honorary member of Gear Goddesses? I'd have to run it by Goddess Hottie, of course. You know the girls are so much more fun.
2006-05-25 6:24 PM
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I know I got lambasted last year for suggesting that option, so it's probably in my best interest, "safety-wise," to remain with the Gear Gods (even though I personally think the name sucks pond water).

 

 



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2006-05-25 7:28 PM
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max - 2006-05-25 3:19 PM

I'm not even going to get into the fact that any single ride of less than 25 miles is about as much exercise as strolling to the refrigerator for a cold one.

Welcome to my backyard baby.  While some boys are busy shaving their legs attempting to live up to the image of "god", some goddesses are strapping on the body armor and taking the long-travel knobby rides out for some gnarly fun.  The below trail is only 8 miles long, but one of the most technical in Tucson and takes on average about 4 hours to ride.  This ain't no couch-to-fridge stroll.

And yes, I cleaned it.  For the "gods" out there, that tingle down below is the sensation of the BALLs shrinking.





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2006-05-25 7:53 PM
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kimj81 - 2006-05-25 7:04 PM

My fellow Goddesses have decided we don't like your BALLS. We feel like this should be a biking challenge, pure and simple... only. It'll make for easier accounting as well. I know I don't have the time to track more than one of my goddesses activities...

Okay, truth be told ... your T ITS are helluva lot more attractive than our BALLS, but the BALLS are a lot more productive towards the end goal.

Besides, heretofore no guy has objected to all and no BALLS.

(Whew ... besides, I am not sure I can walk the analogy line that much longer.)

Care to up the ante?

What do you suggest?

It ain't my bid. I was good with the previous suggestion of avatars and sig lines. You got to either raise or call. 

Edit: c'mon auto-editors T ITS is a valid tri-phrase



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2006-05-25 8:56 PM
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I am extremely interested in your proposed challenge. However I can't be limited to just Time In The Saddle. I also concentrate on Aerobic Sprint Strategies.T!Ts and A$$ are the training combo I strive for each and every day. Where do I sign up?

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PirateGirl - 2006-05-25 8:28 PM

The below trail is only 8 miles long, but one of the most technical in Tucson and takes on average about 4 hours to ride.

Putzing along at the torrid pace of 2 mph ranks in the excitement category along with watching cheese ferment.  In my back yard we drop off the face of the planet on the IMLP course into Keene NY at speeds of 60 mph.  Laughing, frolicking, cruising along, and peeling a banana whilst zooming past the bulbous-chested figures, their eyes glazed over, with a death grip on the bars at half that speed.  Balls...you gotta have 'em to make 'em pucker. 

 

2006-05-25 10:03 PM
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Gee Max you can tell I'm a girlie-girl because I only hit 52 on that downhill. Or maybe it's because I have some relative bodyweight issues since I b!tch every time I get dropped on downhills by people I wait at the top to catch back up in the first place. That's only on training rides though.

Do I detect a friendly wager coming on for Mooseman or Timberman?
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