What Group Needs To Be In The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() What group needs to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? I agree with Eddie Trunk, I look at some of groups in and I shake my head. Are they REALLY rock and roll? Let me start with my list. 1. Iron Maiden ( travesty they are not even nomiated) 2. Judas Priest ( same thing) 3. Kiss ( are you kidding me? Whether you like them or not..but come on) 4. Deep Purple 5. Rush (yes, Rush) 6. Megadeth ( yeah, they will get in one day. Metallica got in...) 7. Bon Jovi ( they have been nominated, but really...I am not a HUGE fan...but really?) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Rush. A thousand times, but it won't happen. New album out tomorrow, btw. Their 20th studio album. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheClaaaw - 2012-06-11 3:24 PM Rush. A thousand times, but it won't happen. New album out tomorrow, btw. Their 20th studio album. And that is a TRAVESTY!! and yeah, great CD coming from them.. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() If you've got any kind of rock and roll integrity, inclusion in the "rock and roll" hall of fame is an insult. Bands not in should be grateful. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'll add Dream Theater to the list. But that, too, will never happen. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ChineseDemocracy - 2012-06-11 4:29 PM If you've got any kind of rock and roll integrity, inclusion in the "rock and roll" hall of fame is an insult. Bands not in should be grateful. Wow, broad brush much? Is it because Axl pulled his usual prima donna nonsense and snubbed the GNR induction this year? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() briderdt - 2012-06-11 4:31 PM I'll add Dream Theater to the list. But that, too, will never happen. OK, we have to hang out sometime. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has some serious issues. Now the Grammys, I think they are trying, but they are like, hey let us try to get it right, but seriously messes it up. Why? Megadeth is up for a grammy for hard rock and metal. That is great. Foo Fighters are up for the same award. Two totally different types of groups. Foo Fighters are not metal, but I supposed hard rock. Foo Fighters won, by the way. Oh and why do you have the metal awards BEFORE they ceremony. Real classy Grammys....and of course the Jethro Tull/Metallica incident. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm not completely sure some of these bands aren't already in, but here goes... Duran Duran The Cure Def Leppard Motley Crue Bryan Ferry & Roxy Music Cheap Trick Depeche Mode Devo Mark Knopfler & Dire Straits Donna Summer Electric Light Orchestra Nine Inch Nails and, of course, Social Distortion. ![]() |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TheClaaaw - 2012-06-11 4:32 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-06-11 4:29 PM If you've got any kind of rock and roll integrity, inclusion in the "rock and roll" hall of fame is an insult. Bands not in should be grateful. Wow, broad brush much? Is it because Axl pulled his usual prima donna nonsense and snubbed the GNR induction this year?
On point though, just look at some of the names of bands you rattled off (amongst others)...then look at some who are already in...kinda crazy. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Any of your 7 can take the place of Metallica...Rush being the biggest travesty. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Alice in Chains. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Winger.. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() briderdt - 2012-06-11 2:53 PM Alice in Chains. Rush and Alice in Chains... wow what else are we going to agree on. Edited by powerman 2012-06-11 4:59 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Someone surely came of age in the 80s. Not that there's anything wrong with that. scoobysdad - 2012-06-11 4:43 PM I'm not completely sure some of these bands aren't already in, but here goes... Duran Duran The Cure Def Leppard Motley Crue Bryan Ferry & Roxy Music Cheap Trick Depeche Mode Devo Mark Knopfler & Dire Straits Donna Summer Electric Light Orchestra Nine Inch Nails and, of course, Social Distortion. ![]() |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-06-11 4:57 PM SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. Not a huge HoF person myself, I had to look through them to familiarize myself. Exactly which pre-1995 performer-inductees do you feel are undeserving of HoF status?
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() scoobysdad - 2012-06-11 3:43 PM I'm not completely sure some of these bands aren't already in, but here goes... Duran Duran The Cure Def Leppard Motley Crue Bryan Ferry & Roxy Music Cheap Trick Depeche Mode Devo Mark Knopfler & Dire Straits Donna Summer Electric Light Orchestra Nine Inch Nails and, of course, Social Distortion. I can go with most, but not all, of those. From the Op's list, only Kiss merits inclusion. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2012-06-11 4:38 PM powerman - 2012-06-11 4:57 PM SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. Not a huge HoF person myself, I had to look through them to familiarize myself. Exactly which pre-1995 performer-inductees do you feel are undeserving of HoF status?
Several... Kinks, The Band, The Animals.... not that they necessarily don't deserve it, but not so sure before others....and since the HOF is sort of new they have to bias towards earlier stuff to get them in. I get that, but just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for... of course that was before my time and I have no doubt a few of the inductees had a bigger influence than I am aware of... but some of them are just groups that seem to have some hits, but I'm not sure they had a profound influence on rock and roll. The Who was inducted first and that rivalry has been around a while. It's an opinion and of course The Who were very influential to some... I think LZ was probably the most influential band ever. They broke new ground and started an entirely new genre... so again, there will be differing opinions, but I just don't agree... I don't think you start from the beginning and go forward... start with the biggest and work your way down until the groups you are considering no longer make the cut. I'm no music historian.. that's probably why they didn't ask my opinion... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I almost wonder if they purposely "balance" out the inductees each year, almost like a concert list. Have a couple of larger headliners, a few medium bands, and an obscure 2-3. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-06-11 4:03 PM the bear - 2012-06-11 4:38 PM powerman - 2012-06-11 4:57 PM SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. Not a huge HoF person myself, I had to look through them to familiarize myself. Exactly which pre-1995 performer-inductees do you feel are undeserving of HoF status?
Several... Kinks, The Band, The Animals.... not that they necessarily don't deserve it, but not so sure before others....and since the HOF is sort of new they have to bias towards earlier stuff to get them in. I get that, but just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for... of course that was before my time and I have no doubt a few of the inductees had a bigger influence than I am aware of... but some of them are just groups that seem to have some hits, but I'm not sure they had a profound influence on rock and roll. The Who was inducted first and that rivalry has been around a while. It's an opinion and of course The Who were very influential to some... I think LZ was probably the most influential band ever. They broke new ground and started an entirely new genre... so again, there will be differing opinions, but I just don't agree... I don't think you start from the beginning and go forward... start with the biggest and work your way down until the groups you are considering no longer make the cut. I'm no music historian.. that's probably why they didn't ask my opinion... I think the recent inductees have been more "suspect" than years past. It seems random now. Older inductees had to be truly at the top of their genre, whatever that happened to be... ex: Black Sabbath. I don't think any of the bands listed really meet that criteria. While Kiss was certainly in a category of their own for stage presence, their music was rather soft-pop-ish. I could see Rob Halford getting in there on his own someday, though. |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-06-11 6:03 PM the bear - 2012-06-11 4:38 PM powerman - 2012-06-11 4:57 PM SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. Not a huge HoF person myself, I had to look through them to familiarize myself. Exactly which pre-1995 performer-inductees do you feel are undeserving of HoF status?
Several... Kinks, The Band, The Animals.... not that they necessarily don't deserve it, but not so sure before others....and since the HOF is sort of new they have to bias towards earlier stuff to get them in. I get that, but just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for... of course that was before my time and I have no doubt a few of the inductees had a bigger influence than I am aware of... but some of them are just groups that seem to have some hits, but I'm not sure they had a profound influence on rock and roll. The Who was inducted first and that rivalry has been around a while. It's an opinion and of course The Who were very influential to some... I think LZ was probably the most influential band ever. They broke new ground and started an entirely new genre... so again, there will be differing opinions, but I just don't agree... I don't think you start from the beginning and go forward... start with the biggest and work your way down until the groups you are considering no longer make the cut. I'm no music historian.. that's probably why they didn't ask my opinion... The three bands you named have had as much or more influence as Zeppelin, and I speak as a huge Zep fan. I could name twenty performers of the top of my head that have been as influential (or more so) than the Zeppelin. Maybe they didn't influential your favorite genres, but their influence can be found in others and in popular music in generral. The way you phrase some things: had a bigger influence than I am aware of. I'm no music historian just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for just groups that seem to have some hit reinforces the opinion I have about most CoJers who start and post in music threads: they like what they know (vehemently at times) but have little depth to their musical taste, and little desire to add any. Nothing wrong with any of that, everyone's entitled to their own musical opinions as well as developing the basis for such. However, I would invite you to sample the back catalog of some of these earlier artists to see what they're all about. Ditto to some of the more recent ones that you're not familiar with. I'd be happy to recommend albums by those three bands and others if you have such an inclination. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I will say this Bear. You are right for the most part. I will also tell you that, yes, I do know other genres. Yes, I am a metalhead. But, and a HUGE but here, I am very happy ABBA got in. They deserve it and I do like them. Genesis got in the same year and am very happy for them. There are two groups I like. Now, I also listened to funk in the 1970's (Parliament and Ohio Players) and respect it very much. I also like Enya too and Mannheim Steamroller. Just because I started the list with metal, does not mean I do not respect all genres of music. I started it because those are the most overlooked bands I could think of off the top of my head. I started this thread because music is so close to everyone's heart. I agree, I like the Animals and The Band. Both great groups. Also, BTO and Grand Funk Railroad. That being said, carry on!!! Edit: I forgot to add the Doobie Brothers ( so loved them growing up), Billy Joel ( who cannot do wrong in my eyes), Barry Manilow ( yes, I am a metalhead and he put on one of the best concerts I have ever seen) and the list goes on. I am person who appreciates it all. Edited by Tireman 4 2012-06-11 7:43 PM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2012-06-11 6:05 PM powerman - 2012-06-11 6:03 PM the bear - 2012-06-11 4:38 PM powerman - 2012-06-11 4:57 PM SoberTriGuy - 2012-06-11 3:07 PM Winger.. Serious???
The HOF trips me out... it's just a bunch of nonsense. Rush did fine without the "industry" and not being in the HOF is their biggest accomplishment. And then if you look up the induction list and see who is in and who made it in before others... my God what a joke. Obviously music is subjective and I get that... but just look at the bands thrown in before Zeppelin... nuff said. Not a huge HoF person myself, I had to look through them to familiarize myself. Exactly which pre-1995 performer-inductees do you feel are undeserving of HoF status?
Several... Kinks, The Band, The Animals.... not that they necessarily don't deserve it, but not so sure before others....and since the HOF is sort of new they have to bias towards earlier stuff to get them in. I get that, but just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for... of course that was before my time and I have no doubt a few of the inductees had a bigger influence than I am aware of... but some of them are just groups that seem to have some hits, but I'm not sure they had a profound influence on rock and roll. The Who was inducted first and that rivalry has been around a while. It's an opinion and of course The Who were very influential to some... I think LZ was probably the most influential band ever. They broke new ground and started an entirely new genre... so again, there will be differing opinions, but I just don't agree... I don't think you start from the beginning and go forward... start with the biggest and work your way down until the groups you are considering no longer make the cut. I'm no music historian.. that's probably why they didn't ask my opinion... The three bands you named have had as much or more influence as Zeppelin, and I speak as a huge Zep fan. I could name twenty performers of the top of my head that have been as influential (or more so) than the Zeppelin. Maybe they didn't influential your favorite genres, but their influence can be found in others and in popular music in generral. The way you phrase some things: had a bigger influence than I am aware of. I'm no music historian just so much 60s stuff that I don't really care for just groups that seem to have some hit reinforces the opinion I have about most CoJers who start and post in music threads: they like what they know (vehemently at times) but have little depth to their musical taste, and little desire to add any. Nothing wrong with any of that, everyone's entitled to their own musical opinions as well as developing the basis for such. However, I would invite you to sample the back catalog of some of these earlier artists to see what they're all about. Ditto to some of the more recent ones that you're not familiar with. I'd be happy to recommend albums by those three bands and others if you have such an inclination. That's cool. I can accept my ignorance of the subject. I have no problem saying you could be right. My Dad had a pretty eclectic taste so I grew up listening to his music. NGD Band, Niel Diamond, Elton, Moody Blues, Charlie Pride... ect. I found RnR in 79... so growing up to that it was still a lot of 60/70 rock on the radio along with new stuff. What always moved me about RnR was it's rebelion, unrest, anti establishment undertones.... while I understood the movement of the 60s... the music itself did not move me. I soooo understand how it moved that generation... but I had mine. When RnR became hair bads in the 80s... to me it lost it's soul.. so I moved to alt/new wave/punk... when grunge came around I was all in again... So ya, I have what I grew up with just like the 50 the 60 and the 70s generations had and that is what they liked. I also understand history and we only get where we are by those that came before.... but now that I have some time on me.. I can see the stuff of the 60s and 70s that have remained timeless... to me LZ fits that discription... but so does Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Bob Seger, Eagles, AC/DC... I'm cool with the suggestions... not that I don't belive you.. it's just not my time... my co-workers have Sirius in the control room and I get a regular does of 50s on up... it just isn't what moves me. I think that is where it becomes meaningfull for us... the soundtrack of our lives and the times it conjures up... I just have no refference to draw from for those times. I hope that makes sense. |
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