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2012-07-23 4:39 PM

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And I could fit the bill of total drama queen for doing so, but I just decided to deactivate my facebook account for a while.

I could just decide not to log in. I could just ignore certain people. But right now, living in the middle of hardcore Penn state country, the massive amount of people who are just screeching over the terrible injustice done to the next generation of football players, and JoePa's legacy and on and on...

My head is going to explode.

I realized I was about to make things unnecessarily weird in my life when my sister posted a picture of the statue, and I fired off a comment - "if your nephew was one of the victims would you still want to see that statue?" I deleted it a minute later, so I have no idea if she ever saw it. But I realized that I am not in a position right now to speak rationally with a lot of people I care about and like, and I don't want to be a self-righteous "I told you so" . I used to be OK with that, but now, I think I'll hold my tongue.

It's not necessary for a normal person to go so far as to delete an online account, most people can just shut up. Right now, I can't. I didn't post some dramatic "I'm leaving and here's why." I just deactivated for now. I'll be back later I'm sure. I need to focus on my professionally related account right now anyway.

I feel like it's some sort of massive moral failure that I felt like this was the only way I could deal with the conflict, as I used to pride myself on being able to argue with anyone, anywhere, anytime, and having them leave the conversation without hating me. But I'm not interested in "winning" a debate over something so awful. I recognized that I can't deal with this as well as I want to, so I opt out. It's not like I have any power to affect anything anyway. My wife thinks I'm finally wising up to setting my own limits. She said "this is good - a few years ago, you wouldn't have recognized the problem, and alienated a bunch of people anyway." It's not like I can't reactivate in about 5 seconds.

 



2012-07-23 4:44 PM
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I admire what you did. You will never change those people's minds anyway, so instead of getting yourself all riled up, you took yourself out of the "conversation." Good on you.

I am in a bit of a similar situation. Most of my in-laws are in PA and some went to Penn State. I, too, am seeing comments on Facebook that I wholeheartedly disagree with. I can't believe "school spirit" really goes that deep, but ... I, too, am doing my best to not entertain a conversation about it any way, shape or form.

I think you made a very adult decision.

2012-07-23 4:45 PM
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I feel for you.  I was just talking to one of my employees about the Penn state stuff and it got irrational really quickly.  I can't even imagine the talk going on in Lion country...

2012-07-23 5:30 PM
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my mom has had to do that herself.  seeing things she disagrees with her family.  This way she does not have to see it /deal with it until it all blows over which it will someday.
2012-07-23 6:21 PM
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chirunner134 - 2012-07-23 6:30 PM my mom has had to do that herself.  seeing things she disagrees with her family.  This way she does not have to see it /deal with it until it all blows over which it will someday.

On one hand, I don't want to say that if I am not in agreement with a person on everything, I can't talk to them. That's not my point. And I'm not saying it is your mom's either.

But the advent of social media has made it so that now, I have a good number of friends that I now know every thought that pops into their head. I have their public record of expressing opinions on everything. Perhaps before, ignorance was bliss. But there is some civility in the social contract that we tend to lose in the world of facebook. Whereas I could once decide the terms in which I engage in conversation with a person, and the topics of said conversations, now unless I cut a person's feed entirely, I get to read all about their thoughts on everything. I have an uncle that suddenly got political, and I almost didn't want to stay at their place for Eagleman after reading too much of it, as he was aggressively posting craziness on my wall. On a personal level he is a great family member who is supportive and generous. But I made the mistake of wearing my RUSH (the band )jersey near him, and he's a big Rush the AM guy fan, and we ended a conversation with me asking if he thought my wife was a <edited by site> for getting birth control at planned parenthood in college in the 90s. (I guess I can't blame facebook for that.)

I know this sounds like a ridiculous critique from a guy with a blog, and over 1000 posts here. But those areas are targeted, and specific. I actually edit my blog, it's not a stream-of-consciousness rant, like it so easily could be for me. Facebook is continual conversation about everything. As a heavy user, it is probably good for me to take a hiatus every once in a while as a matter of course. This recent blow up has made it easier to pick that time.  



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2012-07-23 10:12 PM
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What's facebook?


2012-07-23 11:45 PM
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powerman - 2012-07-23 8:12 PM What's facebook?

^^Like

2012-07-24 12:45 AM
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powerman - 2012-07-23 10:12 PM What's facebook?

Exactly!!!  

2012-07-24 1:10 AM
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TheClaaaw - 2012-07-23 7:21 PM

But the advent of social media has made it so that now, I have a good number of friends that I now know every thought that pops into their head. I have their public record of expressing opinions on everything.

This was somewhat of an issue more than a decade before the internet was opened up to the public. Relatively few people had computers, and even fewer had acoustic coupler modems and dialed into the old BBSs. It was an online community with the same issues we have today. I guess we'll never learn.

2012-07-24 11:28 AM
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Good for you!
2012-07-24 1:28 PM
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Lion country is pretty popular down here in Bmore, we have alot of Alum here. That being said, I am a HUGE PSU fan and have grown up watching the games, going to the games, etc. etc. I think what alot of people in Lion country will need in this situation is time. For me, I grew up watching Joepa, going to games, wearing PSU clothes and getting my picture by his statue (I got to meet him but no pic allowed) and other places on campus. I now realize that he was part of a cover up and didnt do what he was supposed too and it is very hard news to take in. It's like you believe in someone and something that seems larger then life your entire life and when you find out its all a sham and it all gets taken away from you so quickly, you cant believe it and since its all you have ever known, you kick and scream and defend it because you think that it will bring it back. I realize that taking down the statue and other things they have done at the University are in the best interest of the school moving forward and are for the betterment of the community but it doesnt make it any easier to deal with. The NCAA sanctions were about as close to a death penalty that you can get without being called a death penalty. I guess people are still trying to wrap there heads around the fact that what they loved, revered, and grew up with for so many years will never be the same and it will take some time for them to realize that. A community has been changed forever so if you give it some time, the fighting, yelling and childish acts will go away. Then you can re-join facebook


2012-07-24 1:41 PM
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The irony here is that FB is exactly like COJ..... stories about drunk times, your thoughts on *insert hot topic here* (guns, gays, politics, religion, TV shows, etc), can ogle at women/men on pic threads, talk about dinner, share quips about what your kids said/did, etc.....


2012-07-25 2:29 PM
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I understand.  I recently took a friend off the live fee because he was posting like 20-30 lets slam Mitt Romney crap things a day. Seriously you have THAT MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS to post 20-30 things a DAY slamming a politcal candidate?  Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I don't need it pushed down my throat all day everyday.

Sorry you are in the middle of such a mess It must a painful time in Happy valley.   I feel bad for the athletes but the entire situation is such a huge mess there just is no good outcome 

2012-07-25 2:51 PM
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I will use FB, but understand your point.  I have people wanting to change the world with gun laws, Obama bashing, Romney bashing.  But, when people go to far for me, I just use the controls to limit what the posts I receive, or I block entirely. 

I am really sick of cat pictures, but haven't found the CATPICTUREONLYBLOCKING TOOL.  :-)

 

 

2012-07-25 3:44 PM
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I don't think it's an overreaction - an adult assesses (is that too many ess's?) a situation and determines how it's best to behave.  You've simply done that.

 

Don't sweat it!

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2012-07-25 5:26 PM
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What's funny is to think that turning off FB is considered a "possible" over reaction.

I have a FB account. I never use it, go there about twice a year. I only have it to know where to find a couple people if I need to. After I got it and it soon filled up with a bunch of people I have not talked to since H.S., that was it. I don't care.

I do go to forums because I can choose what content I want to look at, I can choose which threads I want to read. But getting roped into every idiotic friend of other friends I don't care about and replicating silly stuff over and over...

Dude... you can just not FB. You could actually never go back.. it would not make one bit of difference in your life. Every time I visit FB, I realize why I have not been there in 6 months. One of those is my B-day to tell everyone thanks.

Here is a novel idea... if one is interested in how a friend is doing, you could use a phone and call them, then you get to hang up and go about your day. It's neat. Just a thought.



2012-07-25 5:36 PM
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powerman - 2012-07-23 11:12 PM What's facebook?

The thing I scroll through when I poop at work :-P

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powerman - 2012-07-23 11:12 PM What's facebook?

The thing I scroll through when I poop at work :-P

I just play solitaire.

2012-07-25 6:16 PM
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Good on you. It's endemic and so artificially important to those who worshiped at the altar. Anyone who defects from the cult is a heretic. Frankly (despite my screen name which professs my tribal influence), I admire the ability of anyone to decipher the truth from the mantra.
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