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2012-08-10 7:51 PM

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Subject: Dopers before they were dopers
Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done?

I'd say:
Brian Bosworth
Ivan Lendel
Mark Gastineau.

Any other completely unfounded guesses?


2012-08-10 7:53 PM
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I gotta ask ... when was some kind of juice ever NOT done?

Maybe before WWII?

2012-08-10 8:01 PM
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Bosworth for sure.

I'll add Brady Anderson. I'm an O's fan for life, but here are his HR totals from92-98:
21, 13,12,16, 50, 18, 18.

Hmmm...

So many other MLB guys, from that era were probably juicing though: just a few that come to mind: Dibble, Myers, Caminiti, Albert Belle, on and on.

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2012-08-10 8:33 PM
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I'm rollin' with Joe Piscopo and Carrot Top.

2012-08-10 8:45 PM
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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-10 9:33 PM

I'm rollin' with Joe Piscopo and Carrot Top.



Eww. But, you're right.
2012-08-10 9:18 PM
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This is completely unfounded...but Rickey Henderson and Julio Franco both blew me away with their longevity and chiseled physiques.

one more, who just maybe, maybe doped...The Ultimate Warrior.  



2012-08-10 11:01 PM
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Jay Cutler. I think he was born on the juice.
2012-08-10 11:16 PM
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pitt83 - 2012-08-10 6:51 PM Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done? I'd say: Brian Bosworth Ivan Lendel Mark Gastineau. Any other completely unfounded guesses?

 

Ivan Lendel doped?!?!

 

Why?

2012-08-10 11:20 PM
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Everyone has done anything they could to be #1. Everyone used amphetamines. Schwarzenegger freely admits everyone back in the day was juicing.... as if that has changed now. Merckx was involved in stimulant use... some of which was denied, but all cyclists were using various stimulants. 

There is a time where the substances is available and not banned, I have no doubt everyone has used something under those circumstances. So it is being used... once it is banned... well, then what do I need to do to clean up in time...

2012-08-10 11:31 PM
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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-10 7:18 PM

one more, who just maybe, maybe doped...The Ultimate Warrior.  

WHAT!?!?! No, I just can't believe that...That would be like saying Vince McMahon doped---or ANY of his wrestlers for that matter! And we all know that the sport of professional wrestling is watched earnestly for such things.

2012-08-11 5:25 AM
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briderdt - 2012-08-11 12:01 AM Jay Cutler. I think he was born on the juice.

With the perpetual sourpuss face on Cutler I agree, he's been on the juice...lemon juice that is.



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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-10 7:18 PM

one more, who just maybe, maybe doped...The Ultimate Warrior.  

WHAT!?!?! No, I just can't believe that...That would be like saying Vince McMahon doped---or ANY of his wrestlers for that matter! And we all know that the sport of professional wrestling is watched earnestly for such things.

Yeah, funny stuff.    Someone told me there were actually multiple Ultimate Warriors...a new one arose after each of the previous versions died from massive amounts of steroid use.  

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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-11 5:28 AM
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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-10 7:18 PM

one more, who just maybe, maybe doped...The Ultimate Warrior.  

WHAT!?!?! No, I just can't believe that...That would be like saying Vince McMahon doped---or ANY of his wrestlers for that matter! And we all know that the sport of professional wrestling is watched earnestly for such things.

 

Yeah, funny stuff.    Someone told me there were actually multiple Ultimate Warriors...a new one arose after each of the previous versions died from massive amounts of steroid use.  

I'd almost believe that.



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pitt83 - 2012-08-10 6:51 PM Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done? I'd say: Brian Bosworth Ivan Lendel Mark Gastineau. Any other completely unfounded guesses?

 

Ivan Lendel doped?!?!

 

Why?

I honestly can't see why doping would help you at all in tennis.  And he didn't have particularly powerful strokes either.  He just never hit the ball out.

Either way, since it's just for fun, um:

any eastern block or chinese olympic athlete

any olympic athlete who beat the US

There's really just no other explanation for how we could lose!!!!  

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abqtj - 2012-08-10 11:16 PM

pitt83 - 2012-08-10 6:51 PM Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done? I'd say: Brian Bosworth Ivan Lendel Mark Gastineau. Any other completely unfounded guesses?

 

Ivan Lendel doped?!?!

 

Why?

I honestly can't see why doping would help you at all in tennis.  And he didn't have particularly powerful strokes either.  He just never hit the ball out.

Either way, since it's just for fun, um:

any eastern block or chinese olympic athlete

any olympic athlete who beat the US

There's really just no other explanation for how we could lose!!!!  

I would have believed the Lendl accusation...until I heard his high, whiny voice for the first time.

2012-08-11 11:09 AM
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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-12 12:05 AM
jgaither - 2012-08-11 10:51 AM
abqtj - 2012-08-10 11:16 PM

pitt83 - 2012-08-10 6:51 PM Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done? I'd say: Brian Bosworth Ivan Lendel Mark Gastineau. Any other completely unfounded guesses?

 

Ivan Lendel doped?!?!

 

Why?

I honestly can't see why doping would help you at all in tennis.  And he didn't have particularly powerful strokes either.  He just never hit the ball out.

Either way, since it's just for fun, um:

any eastern block or chinese olympic athlete

any olympic athlete who beat the US

There's really just no other explanation for how we could lose!!!!  

I would have believed the Lendl accusation...until I heard his high, whiny voice for the first time.

That can actually happen FROM certain regimens of juicing.

PROOF!



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ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-10 8:33 PM

I'm rollin' with Joe Piscopo and Carrot Top.

They both looked soooo freaky all buff. It was weird.

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TriAya - 2012-08-11 12:09 PM
ChineseDemocracy - 2012-08-12 12:05 AM
jgaither - 2012-08-11 10:51 AM
abqtj - 2012-08-10 11:16 PM

pitt83 - 2012-08-10 6:51 PM Who do you suspect was on the juice before it was tested for or widely done? I'd say: Brian Bosworth Ivan Lendel Mark Gastineau. Any other completely unfounded guesses?

 

Ivan Lendel doped?!?!

 

Why?

I honestly can't see why doping would help you at all in tennis.  And he didn't have particularly powerful strokes either.  He just never hit the ball out.

Either way, since it's just for fun, um:

any eastern block or chinese olympic athlete

any olympic athlete who beat the US

There's really just no other explanation for how we could lose!!!!  

I would have believed the Lendl accusation...until I heard his high, whiny voice for the first time.

That can actually happen FROM certain regimens of juicing.

PROOF!

Interesting.  Dopers/juicers = pathetic.

2012-08-13 8:43 AM
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Tony Mandarich.  I met him during his last year at Michigan State, they guy was massive.  My grandpa was a tutor for the team, so he could take me through their old football building pretty much any time.  I met a bunch of the players & coaches, played on the indoor field, but my most indelible memory was meeting Tony in the weight room.  He was this huge guy bench pressing an ungodly amount of weight.  The wall in the old weight room had different "clubs" for different lifts (300lb club, 400lb club, etc).  I don't remember the #'s, but I remember that the far right of each display was the highest #, and Tony's name was usually the only one there.  

Once he got out of college and into a real testing program, he fell apart.  

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