As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly."
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2013-02-01 8:14 AM |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly."
I think just about everyone is in the wrong here... the pastor, the waitress who shared it on Reddit, and Applebee's. I don't have much sympathy for the pastor whatsoever. Thoughts? Edited by tealeaf 2013-02-01 8:16 AM |
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2013-02-01 8:21 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
489 | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." The Pastor should be completely embarrassed by his actions. If he wanted to make a point he should have had the courage to say it and not spell it out like he did. The piece missing from the story is what service he received to drive him to do it of course. I think I'm most disappointed that he phoned up and demanded she was fired. People do things in the heat of the moment but given the opportunity to reflect and his place in society I can't see how he thought that would reflect well on him and the organisation he represents. I'd also want proof that he donates his entire salary to a God related charity..... |
2013-02-01 8:27 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." and we wonder why more and more people distrust religion and leave churches...... |
2013-02-01 8:28 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Pro 4313 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... ETA....found the yahoo story. The table was over 8.... The waitness got her tip in the form of automatic grat.....but I (*gulp*) AGREE (*gulp*) with tealeaf......there was a wrong on all sides. Edited by bradleyd3 2013-02-01 8:32 AM |
2013-02-01 8:28 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." That must be one fun church. And what the hell did he order that cost $35 at Applebee's?....he must have had a couple rounds of that devil juice. Edited by Jackemy1 2013-02-01 8:28 AM |
2013-02-01 8:29 AM in reply to: #4604004 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." bradleyd3 - 2013-02-01 9:28 AM Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... I wondered that as well. Apparently there was a large party and they split the check up. Some have said in an effort to avoid the auto gratuity, but I don't think there's any hard evidence that this was the reason. |
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2013-02-01 8:30 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Oh, and the pastor is a "she." |
2013-02-01 8:31 AM in reply to: #4604004 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." bradleyd3 - 2013-02-01 9:28 AM Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... all these things aside, as a pastor, writing things like "i give god 10% why should i give you 18%" is just shameful. i don't care if she eventually tipped her or not. you are called to reflect Christ, and that is NOT a reflection of Him. |
2013-02-01 8:35 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Pro 4313 McKinney, TX | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." I edited my previous post.....and actually agreed with Tealeaf (I know....first time for everything - haha). I never liked auto-grat when I worked restaurants. Most of the time, the people would give bigger....and when the bill was split like that, they'd all give. Still....lots of wrongs.... |
2013-02-01 8:39 AM in reply to: #4604008 |
Veteran 1019 St. Louis | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." tealeaf - 2013-02-01 8:29 AM bradleyd3 - 2013-02-01 9:28 AM Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... I wondered that as well. Apparently there was a large party and they split the check up. Some have said in an effort to avoid the auto gratuity, but I don't think there's any hard evidence that this was the reason. She gave an interview where she said it was a party of 5 adults and 5 kids. There's a whole lot wrong with the pastor's side of the story. She claims after she crossed out the $6 tip she still left a $6 cash tip on the table. She claims she still got charged the auto-tip on her credit card. And the church she claims to be a pastor at does not exist. At least, it does not exist at the address she gave. |
2013-02-01 8:41 AM in reply to: #4604034 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." kevin_trapp - 2013-02-01 9:39 AM tealeaf - 2013-02-01 8:29 AM bradleyd3 - 2013-02-01 9:28 AM Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... I wondered that as well. Apparently there was a large party and they split the check up. Some have said in an effort to avoid the auto gratuity, but I don't think there's any hard evidence that this was the reason. She gave an interview where she said it was a party of 5 adults and 5 kids. There's a whole lot wrong with the pastor's side of the story. She claims after she crossed out the $6 tip she still left a $6 cash tip on the table. She claims she still got charged the auto-tip on her credit card. And the church she claims to be a pastor at does not exist. At least, it does not exist at the address she gave. The church website was up earlier last night, but so many Redditors registered on it, left nasty comments, spammed the email addresses on it, so I am guessing the church administration took it offline. |
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2013-02-01 8:44 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." I don't recall where I heard or read this but,,,,, the pastor was in a large group that did get the auto 18% and was obligated to pay it but scratched it out and paid a lesser amount. Basically theft imo. The restaurant had a policy for groups of x or more that it would be added. Her "church" had a congration of 15 or so..... the part that sickens me is with this publicity she will probably see an increase in her flock. If I recall correctly the waitress who posted it was not the waitress who provided the service. My feelings on this is the pastor is legally a theif and dispicable, the waitress shouldn't have posted it but I don't believe it merits losing their job. |
2013-02-01 8:50 AM in reply to: #4604034 |
Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." kevin_trapp - 2013-02-01 8:39 AM tealeaf - 2013-02-01 8:29 AM bradleyd3 - 2013-02-01 9:28 AM Usually a gratuity is added automatically for tables of 8 or more.....but that bill is only $35, so I'm guessing that it wasn't a large table...or was the 18% not added in, but the 'suggested amount'? If it was added in, then the Pastor actually paid the 18%. If not....then the waitress didn't get anything. I don't know.....somethings missing from the story..... I wondered that as well. Apparently there was a large party and they split the check up. Some have said in an effort to avoid the auto gratuity, but I don't think there's any hard evidence that this was the reason. She gave an interview where she said it was a party of 5 adults and 5 kids. There's a whole lot wrong with the pastor's side of the story. She claims after she crossed out the $6 tip she still left a $6 cash tip on the table. She claims she still got charged the auto-tip on her credit card. And the church she claims to be a pastor at does not exist. At least, it does not exist at the address she gave. So everyone jumped to conclusions... Like TeaLeaf said, everyone was wrong here. I once gave 20% tip when I paid for a nice dinner for a group of 12. Then, when I got my cc bill, it had an additional 20% tip. I called the restaurant and asked what was up with that and they said they automatically add 20%. So I add 20%, then you add 20%? That's not right and that is not what the receipt I signed says. They credited back to the card the extra 20%. "Most powerful force in the universe- Compounding interest." - Albert Einstein. What I will say about Pastors is that every one I've dealt with in the last 5 years has made a point of tipping well and saying during their sermon "Make sure if you go out after services, you tip really well. Everyone sees you saying grace before your meal and if you don't tip well, you make us all look bad." If I'm wearing my church polo shirt, I tip 20% and then some... writing that stuff was just stupid... |
2013-02-01 8:52 AM in reply to: #4604050 |
Extreme Veteran 1260 Miami | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." crusevegas - 2013-02-01 9:44 AM I don't recall where I heard or read this but,,,,, the pastor was in a large group that did get the auto 18% and was obligated to pay it but scratched it out and paid a lesser amount. Basically theft imo. The restaurant had a policy for groups of x or more that it would be added. Her "church" had a congration of 15 or so..... the part that sickens me is with this publicity she will probably see an increase in her flock. If I recall correctly the waitress who posted it was not the waitress who provided the service. My feelings on this is the pastor is legally a theif and dispicable, the waitress shouldn't have posted it but I don't believe it merits losing their job. Can't believe it but i agree 100% with Jim. |
2013-02-01 8:52 AM in reply to: #4604050 |
Extreme Veteran 1260 Miami | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." DP Edited by Cuetoy 2013-02-01 8:52 AM |
2013-02-01 8:54 AM in reply to: #4604060 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Here's an idea. Instead of judging vast groups of people (church-going people, Applebee's, pastors) by the actions of the individuals involved, why not just recognize a couple people here made poor choices? That goes for other issues as well. |
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2013-02-01 9:02 AM in reply to: #4604068 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." scoobysdad - 2013-02-01 9:54 AM Here's an idea. Instead of judging vast groups of people (church-going people, Applebee's, pastors) by the actions of the individuals involved, why not just recognize a couple people here made poor choices? That goes for other issues as well. Here's another idea. Instead of judging vast (well, not vast, however many people have commented here) amounts of people, why not just recognize that there has been one singular broad-brush comment, which might have been a poor choice? Edited by tealeaf 2013-02-01 9:02 AM |
2013-02-01 9:15 AM in reply to: #4604068 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." scoobysdad - 2013-02-01 9:54 AM Instead of judging vast groups of people (church-going people, Applebee's, pastors) by the actions of the individuals involved, why not just recognize a couple people here made poor choices? _________ Not as fun.
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2013-02-01 9:17 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Well I just think they should charge more and pay the wait staff a real wage and not this based on tip wages but that is just me. I understand the auto gratuity with a large group because I find it difficult sometimes in a large group to sometimes come up with the money. Too many cheapskates or people walking out and not paying leaving it to the group. As we always say. If you do not like company policy then do not give them your money. No one says you have to eat at Applebees. |
2013-02-01 9:32 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Pro 4838 | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." If you didn't like the service or it wasn't to your satisfaction, you still tip. If you think 18% is to high at least give something. A lot of wait staff work of tips. That pastor is totally wrong. Stiifing wait staff on a $34.00 dollar bill. Next time eat at McDonald's, you don't have to tip at the drive thru jerkoff. God hates none tippers. It's in the bible. |
2013-02-01 9:34 AM in reply to: #4603979 |
Extreme Veteran 350 Houston | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." original post was meant to be more humorous than anything...not gonna let it get out of hand like it has already started..have a great friday everyone!-Jb Edited by jasonwb 2013-02-01 10:03 AM |
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2013-02-01 9:34 AM in reply to: #4604139 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Iowaman - 2013-02-01 10:32 AM If you didn't like the service or it wasn't to your satisfaction, you still tip. If you think 18% is to high at least give something. A lot of wait staff work of tips. That pastor is totally wrong. Stiifing wait staff on a $34.00 dollar bill. Next time eat at McDonald's, you don't have to tip at the drive thru jerkoff. God hates none tippers. It's in the bible. sig line! Edited by mehaner 2013-02-01 9:36 AM |
2013-02-01 9:37 AM in reply to: #4604139 |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." Iowaman - 2013-02-01 9:32 AM If you didn't like the service or it wasn't to your satisfaction, you still tip. If you think 18% is to high at least give something. A lot of wait staff work of tips. That pastor is totally wrong. Stiifing wait staff on a $34.00 dollar bill. Next time eat at McDonald's, you don't have to tip at the drive thru jerkoff. God hates none tippers. It's in the bible. Curious. Can you tell me where it is for future reference? |
2013-02-01 9:39 AM in reply to: #4604154 |
Pro 4838 | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." chirunner134 - 2013-02-01 9:37 AM Iowaman - 2013-02-01 9:32 AM If you didn't like the service or it wasn't to your satisfaction, you still tip. If you think 18% is to high at least give something. A lot of wait staff work of tips. That pastor is totally wrong. Stiifing wait staff on a $34.00 dollar bill. Next time eat at McDonald's, you don't have to tip at the drive thru jerkoff. God hates none tippers. It's in the bible. Curious. Can you tell me where it is for future reference? Tipathonias 3:21 |
2013-02-01 9:39 AM in reply to: #4604144 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: As they say, "Well, that escalated quickly." jason, are you really a racist or do you just sound like one on the internet? |
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