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 2013-10-04 3:31 AM |
Veteran 320  Lost, Florida |  Subject: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs?Are these worth the investment? I'll be looking for a job in 2 years and was thinking of adding this to my resume. I have my Bachelors degree, just don't thnk I have the time and desire to go for a Master's. Which one is really valued in the job Market? Thanks. |
| 2013-10-04 6:52 AM in reply to: sfm15 |
1159  | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Originally posted by sfm15 Are these worth the investment? I'll be looking for a job in 2 years and was thinking of adding this to my resume. I have my Bachelors degree, just don't thnk I have the time and desire to go for a Master's. Which one is really valued in the job Market? Thanks. I think a lot of it depends on your career field and where you see yourself in the future. I know that for me, ASTD (american society of training and development) offer a lot of those certificate type programs which may help me in the future, I just haven't had the money to pay for them right now. Maybe look at where you want to be in 5 years/10 years and see if there is someone you know/or you could get in contact with, who is in a position you would be interested in holding and they could give you advice |
| 2013-10-04 7:00 AM in reply to: austhokie |
Pro 9391  Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Ditto on the "it depends". One trick I would always use was to go look at job postings for the job I wanted to get. What degrees, certificates, qualifications were they looking for? Was it an optional thing or a mandatory thing. If they were mandatory for most, then I would go get them. If they were optional then I'd look at it more along the lines of do I get value from it to make myself more competitive versus it actually getting me the job. Is it going to keep me from getting an interview? As a guy whose hired a lot of people in the IT world, resume's were a small part of what I used. You had to have a certain base set of knowledge and experience to get in front of me, but once you were in front of me it was 100% based on you at that moment in time talking to me and how much you knew. I had some candidates with incredible resume's who had horrible interviews and I have had candidates with horrible resume's that barely squeaked in that had awesome interviews and got the job. I always joke that $80k in college is nothing more than a check box on a job application to get you past HR and into the manager interview. |
| 2013-10-04 7:50 AM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? ditto these guys here - it really depends what you do and the credibility of the certificate. some companies really value things like the PMP (project management professional) and some don't care. why are you not looking for two years? i would be more concerned about explaining gaps in my resume than certificates. |
| 2013-10-04 7:54 AM in reply to: mehaner |
| 489 | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? I've just finished an executive masters degree and I'd say the qualifiation is pretty worthless, despite being from one of the top business schools in the world according to rankings. However, the friends I made, the incredibly inspiring and motivating environment and the impact it had on how I view myself, career and the wider world made the whole thing one of the best experiences of my life. Some people clearly did the course just to get the letters after their name and now they're wondering why the opportunities haven't come yet, others embraced the experience and there are some fantastic success stories as a result that aren't technically anything to do with the qualification. With that in mind I'd go against the advice you've got here and don't look at education as a 'need to have' but as something that will enrich your life and pick a course basd on that. Hope that isn't too abstract! |
| 2013-10-04 7:59 AM in reply to: Dan-L |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Originally posted by Dan-L With that in mind I'd go against the advice you've got here and don't look at education as a 'need to have' but as something that will enrich your life and pick a course basd on that. Hope that isn't too abstract! I agree with you on that - what I got out of my MBA was a huge professional network and a new job I love. But he is asking about certificate programs that generally are correspondence or short workshops, not pursuing a degree. |
| 2013-10-04 9:44 AM in reply to: mehaner |
| Veteran 320 Lost, Florida | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? I have 2 years left in the military before I retire. My job doesn't exactly transfer over to the civilian world. I'm just trying to make myself as marketable as possible when I get out and was thinking one of these programs might help. I was thinking Project Management or possibly Six Sigma. |
| 2013-10-04 9:48 AM in reply to: sfm15 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Originally posted by sfm15 I have 2 years left in the military before I retire. My job doesn't exactly transfer over to the civilian world. I'm just trying to make myself as marketable as possible when I get out and was thinking one of these programs might help. I was thinking Project Management or possibly Six Sigma. it really depends what you are doing and what you want to do and how it translates. as a person who does interviews, military leadership experience >>> PMP in almost every position except for a formal acutal project manager. |
| 2013-10-04 11:59 AM in reply to: sfm15 |
| 1159 | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Originally posted by sfm15 I have 2 years left in the military before I retire. My job doesn't exactly transfer over to the civilian world. I'm just trying to make myself as marketable as possible when I get out and was thinking one of these programs might help. I was thinking Project Management or possibly Six Sigma. There is also a website you can go to where you put in your military career field/MOS and it will give you a breakdown of potential jobs...but don't forget that while you might not have job specific training - your background, ability to adapt, leadership etc may still put you ahead of others |
| 2013-10-04 4:20 PM in reply to: austhokie |
| Expert 1233 | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? My two cents is that it doesn't hurt. You mentioned six sigma, that's a good one depending on where the certification is from. Along those lines, certs from ASQ (American Society for Quality) are very highly regarded in industrial and manufacturing fields. Some certifications from major universities are just subsets of their master degree. It typically takes 10 courses for a Masters, if you have the requisite background, but you can get the certificate with 4 courses. If you then apply to the Masters program, you get credit for those 4 courses applied to the degree. Downside is that the cert program is more expensive than if you were taking the classes as part of the Masters program. Extra education and certifications are multipliers. If you have the experience, personality, etc., then the extras just multiply your value. If you don't, then anything multiplied by zero...you do the math! |
| 2013-10-04 4:28 PM in reply to: vonschnapps |
Master 2504 Southwest Iowa | Subject: RE: Professional/Executive Certificate Programs? Six Sigma for engineer type positions, management and anything dealing with the automotive world. It is also nice in a lot of other manufacturing, but it was huge when I worked in automotive, which I am really glad I am not anymore. ASQ is/was highly regarded in automotive and large manufacturing.
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