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 2014-03-18 10:20 PM |
 7 |  Subject: Swim /rest bouyAnother question about the swim portion of a triathlon. I understand that it's within the rules for a swimmer to hold onto a buoy, kayak, etc. during the swim as long as he does not use the device to aid in forward progress. Given that, do swimmers ever bring a buoy, rescue tube, or other such device with them? Perhaps something that is towed. Would that even be practical given that there's a mass of people in the water. Note that I'm not asking about something like a SwimIT. That looks like a safety life vest, not something anyone would use to pause, rest and continue. |
| 2014-03-18 10:30 PM in reply to: kf4dgk |
Member 1293    Pearland,Tx | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy |
| 2014-03-19 8:35 AM in reply to: kf4dgk |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy If you feel you need this you are not ready. |
| 2014-03-19 8:39 AM in reply to: simpsonbo |
Expert 1263 Wendell, NC | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy |
| 2014-03-19 10:17 AM in reply to: La Tortuga |
New user 273 Manassas, Virginia | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by La Tortuga YepOriginally posted by simpsonbo Ditto If you feel you need this you are not ready. |
| 2014-03-19 10:33 AM in reply to: Dunn Right |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by Dunn Right Originally posted by La Tortuga Yep Originally posted by simpsonbo If you feel you need this you are not ready. Ditto Agree as well, but wanted to add that for some it could be more getting used to being out in the open water. |
| 2014-03-19 12:22 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy None of these responses answer the question presented. |
| 2014-03-19 12:25 PM in reply to: kf4dgk |
| 2014-03-19 12:28 PM in reply to: kf4dgk |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Uh.....the second response answered your question. But in case you don't feel olike clicking on the link for the answer, here it is: NO! |
| 2014-03-19 12:29 PM in reply to: kf4dgk |
| 191 Melbourne, Florida | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy The first response is a link to the USAT rules. It states: "4.9 Illegal Equipment. Any swimmer wearing any artificial propulsion device, including but not limited to fins, gloves, paddles, or floating devices of any kind shall be disqualified." No, you cannot take a floatation device with you. The other responses stated that if you're afraid to do the swim, don't do it. You wouldn't climb down a canyon if you weren't sure if you can make it back up. Don't do a point to point century ride if you've never ridden over 20 miles. Swimming is no different. |
| 2014-03-19 1:25 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Member 341 Austin | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy NOT FOR RACING, but while you are out practicing your own open water swims. http://www.ishof.org/safety/ssd.htm
I have one and use it when ever I have a long swim in the lake planned. It helps keep me move visible so I get run over by kite boarders and kayaks less. It also gives me something to hang on to if I decide to take a break between 1500m sets, without going to shore. |
| 2014-03-19 11:36 PM in reply to: jetsers |
Member 258 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by jetsers NOT FOR RACING, but while you are out practicing your own open water swims. http://www.ishof.org/safety/ssd.htm
I have one and use it when ever I have a long swim in the lake planned. It helps keep me move visible so I get run over by kite boarders and kayaks less. It also gives me something to hang on to if I decide to take a break between 1500m sets, without going to shore. I use this device also. I like to have it for open water practices in case another swimmer has trouble. |
| 2014-03-20 12:58 AM in reply to: jetsers |
Coach 9167 Stairway to Seven | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by jetsers NOT FOR RACING, but while you are out practicing your own open water swims. http://www.ishof.org/safety/ssd.htm
I have one and use it when ever I have a long swim in the lake planned. It helps keep me move visible so I get run over by kite boarders and kayaks less. It also gives me something to hang on to if I decide to take a break between 1500m sets, without going to shore. YES THIS. THese are great!! |
| 2014-03-20 2:16 AM in reply to: kf4dgk |
Member 1293 Pearland,Tx | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Michael The answers to your inquiry are clearly provided above. IF your persistent in using flotation devices I believe HITS Triathlon events will allow it only that results will not be official. Reference from this article: http://www.nbc-2.com/story/24427268/competitor-dies-during-hits-tri... Goodluck to your training Cheers!! |
| 2014-03-20 3:13 AM in reply to: kf4dgk |
| 471 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. |
| 2014-03-20 7:12 AM in reply to: zedzded |
Member 1748 Exton, PA | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by zedzded Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. I read through the rules and as long as the training wheels do not exceed 75cm total width they appear to be legal! |
| 2014-03-20 7:44 AM in reply to: 0 |
| Member 354 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by zedzded Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. I have the same internal reaction when I hear things like "I really want to get into triathlon, but I'm new to cycling and hate riding my bike outside. Is it OK to do 100% of my training indoors and ride outside only during the race?" I'm over-reacting, I know, but nervous/squirrely riders cause accidents. Edited by danimal123 2014-03-20 7:48 AM |
| 2014-03-20 8:38 AM in reply to: danimal123 |
| 489 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Wetsuits are a pretty good flotation device. If you need a rest, get freaked out, or just need to gather your thoughts - just relax and lean back. You'll float fine. |
| 2014-03-20 10:20 AM in reply to: 0 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by zedzded Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. It's not a stupid question. It's a question about the rules and the answer was given. It's not an unreasonable leap for someone to think it may be permissible to bring a flotation device since the rules actually permit a swimmer to hold onto a buoy or kayak to rest (but that rule is probably a discussion for another thread). Edited by Goosedog 2014-03-20 10:24 AM |
| 2014-03-20 5:44 PM in reply to: mike761 |
| 471 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Originally posted by mike761 Originally posted by zedzded Originally posted by kf4dgk None of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. I read through the rules and as long as the training wheels do not exceed 75cm total width they appear to be legal! ha ha That would be amusing seeing someone on trainer wheels. |
| 2014-03-20 5:56 PM in reply to: zedzded |
Extreme Veteran 1175 Langley, BC, 'Wet Coast' Canada | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy I could imagine participants with physical challenges utilizing such an item.... Originally posted by zedzded Originally posted by mike761 ha ha That would be amusing seeing someone on trainer wheels.Originally posted by zedzded I read through the rules and as long as the training wheels do not exceed 75cm total width they appear to be legal!Originally posted by kf4dgkNone of these responses answer the question presented. Probably because it was a stupid question even for a beginner triathlon forum. It's like asking can I have trainer wheels for my bike. |
| 2014-03-26 10:37 PM in reply to: kf4dgk |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Most replies to my question were generally the same, and missed the point. Stating the obvious, of course nobody should attempt to swim, bike, or drive a car for that matter, without being competent and confident. I'm sure FINA long distance swimmer Fran Crippen was supremely confident and competent in his ability to swim; yet he drowned. The point is about safety and options. During the bike portion of a triathlon, participants are required to wear a helmet. This is for safety. Also, during the bike and run portions a participant can coast, walk, stop, sit, lie down, take a nap, or withdraw at will. No so with the swim. Why not? During the swim a participant will have to swim to the nearest rest point (assuming there is one). Or for that matter swim to shore in order to withdraw. As far as rule 4.9 goes, this only applies to floatation devices (or other items, such as fins) from being used as an aid in propulsion. I understand some triathlon organizers will put out rest platforms throughout the swim course. Apparently, those are legal. |
| 2014-03-27 3:15 AM in reply to: #4967625 |
| 28 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Ignoring the fact that it's illegal equipment I think towing an item behind you I would be pretty dangerous to yourself. The start of swims can be messy and often involes getting knocked around a bit (I'm a FTP swimmer in a very competitive group) but I imagine most have a similar experience. I believe having an item in the water would result it in being pulled by people behind you, not intentially just the result of someone's stroke going through it. As someone has already mentioned if your somewhere that often has wetsuit legal races, wear one and when you want some rest go vertical in the water and you'll be floating merrily. |
| 2014-03-27 6:42 AM in reply to: Mega_Man |
| 225 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy http://myswimit.com/ this guy is legal to carry, but you get a DQ if you actually pull the cord. |
| 2014-03-27 6:55 AM in reply to: Mega_Man |
| 7 | Subject: RE: Swim /rest bouy Yeah, I thought about that. From what I remember of the sprint triathlons I did sixteen years ago the swim can get frenzied and jumbled. Having something in tow in that crowd is probably not practical. Unfortunately, the events I'm signed up for this summer will not be wetsuit legal. They will be in the ocean though, which will help. Also, what is an FTP swimmer? |
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