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 2010-02-08 9:55 AM in reply to: #2661056 |
Not a Coach  11473     Media, PA |  Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSEDtriton63 - 2010-02-08 10:39 AM JohnOD - 2010-02-08 10:02 AM Have not been able to sue the bike trainer because my basement is being finished. John John, why are you suing the bike trainer?  I keep hearing all this talk about snow. What is this white stuff you are talking about? We don't have it down here. Just nasty, 40 degrees and raining...and raining...and raining. I am ready for global warming...also known as SPRING! He's an attorney. They'll sue anything.  Somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 feet of the white stuff fell here. My back is still sore from shoveling, and I hope it will recover soon because they are calling for more this Tues/Wed. Could just be a few more inches. Could be a few more FEET! I did have a good run yesterday and it was beautiful out. Sunny, cold and quiet with all the snow. Saw more people cross country skiiing than walking or running in the park nearby. |
| 2010-02-08 2:39 PM in reply to: #2661092 |
Member 34 | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED We dug out the car yesterday but didn't go anywhere because we were afraid of losing our spot. But we did get out today and hit the gym. Ran 12 miles at a nice easy pace. Its good to get back on the "road." I realized today during my run that I need a tune up race before my marathon, which would otherwise be my first race since November. Any suggestions on distance and time prior to the race? Edited by aggienmmi 2010-02-08 2:39 PM |
| 2010-02-08 8:02 PM in reply to: #2592294 |
Member 97 New York City | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED I think we are all ready for Spring. We missed the snow last weekend somehow. but we're likely to get it on Tuesday. Too bad I can't sue anyone about the weather. From here, 40 degrees looks downright warm. I am taking tomorrow off/working from home. What I am really plotting is a trip to the local Y to see if i can use their pool. |
| 2010-02-09 9:43 AM in reply to: #2661911 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED aggienmmi - 2010-02-08 3:39 PM We dug out the car yesterday but didn't go anywhere because we were afraid of losing our spot. But we did get out today and hit the gym. Ran 12 miles at a nice easy pace. Its good to get back on the "road." I realized today during my run that I need a tune up race before my marathon, which would otherwise be my first race since November. Any suggestions on distance and time prior to the race? Nice work! I think my max treadmill run was 11 miles. I just reach a point where it's too easy to hit "Stop".  People use all kinds of distances for "tune up" races. They are certainly not necessary, but many people find them helpful. I think anything between a 10k and a half marathon is good and would choose based more on what's available to you. Even 5ks can be used as an opportunity to push yourself a little harder than you might while training on your own, but 10k to 13.1 are paced solidly in the "tempo" area and are perfect training for a marathon. How many you do and where you place them will vary by individual. But, since this is your first marathon, I probably wouldn't race much closer than one month out. Maybe a little closer if it's a 10k or shorter. |
| 2010-02-09 12:15 PM in reply to: #2592294 |
| Regular 95 | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED I'm still trying to get my act together and figure out what my summer race plans are. Question/advice needed: I found two races I'm very interested in doing. 1) The Mass State Tri Sprint on July 18 and 2) The Greenfield Lightlife International Tri on August 1. My goal was to try a race longer than a sprint, and Greenfield fits the bill, is small and is close to where I live. But would those two races be too close together? I'm not one who shells out money for a race and doesn't give it my all, so they would both be "A" events. The problem for me is finding races I don't have to drive over 2 hours to get to. I could probably find another sprint earlier in July, but would need to travel. Or I could keep that sprint, but then have to travel for a different Olympic. Or... is that a reasonable rest between two races? It's exactly two weeks apart. Your thoughts? |
| 2010-02-11 12:03 AM in reply to: #2663581 |
Regular 87 Santa Barbara, CA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Hey gang, |
| 2010-02-11 7:08 AM in reply to: #2592294 |
Veteran 233 Madison, New Jersey | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED ^^^^Pamela glad to hear that you are feeling better! As for training I would ease back into things. No need to jump right back into your plan only to get injured due to overuse. After months of weight training one would think my back would not be so sore from shoveling, mama mia! Thank God the weekend is right around the corner. |
| 2010-02-11 9:19 AM in reply to: #2592294 |
Member 97 New York City | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Shoveling snow should count as a work-out. I did a lot of it yesterday. |
| 2010-02-11 3:37 PM in reply to: #2663581 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED vtgirl - 2010-02-09 1:15 PM I'm still trying to get my act together and figure out what my summer race plans are. Question/advice needed: I found two races I'm very interested in doing. 1) The Mass State Tri Sprint on July 18 and 2) The Greenfield Lightlife International Tri on August 1. My goal was to try a race longer than a sprint, and Greenfield fits the bill, is small and is close to where I live. But would those two races be too close together? I'm not one who shells out money for a race and doesn't give it my all, so they would both be "A" events. The problem for me is finding races I don't have to drive over 2 hours to get to. I could probably find another sprint earlier in July, but would need to travel. Or I could keep that sprint, but then have to travel for a different Olympic. Or... is that a reasonable rest between two races? It's exactly two weeks apart. Your thoughts? 2 weeks between a sprint and an oly should be fine. Just make sure you are following a training plan for the oly distances. I never do a race where I don't "give it my all", but I don't always aim to be in peak form for every race. I would do only a very short (or almost no) taper before the sprint. Then maybe take a day off after the race and get right back to training for one more solid week before easing back a bit before the oly. |
| 2010-02-11 3:39 PM in reply to: #2667213 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED sbtrichick - 2010-02-11 1:03 AM Hey gang, I would take it easy the first week back and then evaluate how you feel. You might be able to pick it back up after that, or you may have to rebuild for a couple weeks. Works different for everyone, but the worst thing to do is to rush it and get injured (or sick again) and have to take more time off. I can try to imagine I am at a white-sand beach. |
| 2010-02-11 4:58 PM in reply to: #2668553 |
Veteran 113 Southeastern Virginia | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Did my swim yesterday but really didn't feel motivated to do it. Skipped my core workout last night and my ride/run today. Just not feeling motivated or looking forward to the workouts. Tired, sluggish and grumpy. Family runs for cover when I enter the room. Plan on taking tomorrow off and then hitting it hard on Sat. Hopefully, the extra days off will do the trick.  |
| 2010-02-11 5:07 PM in reply to: #2668697 |
Veteran 233 Madison, New Jersey | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED A few days off is always good. I always treat myself to some milk and fresh baked cookies or a few beers. Either way it helps. lol |
| 2010-02-15 10:28 AM in reply to: #2592294 |
Member 38 cincinnati, ohio | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED wow. had to look way down to find our group!! |
| 2010-02-15 10:37 AM in reply to: #2673466 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Glad the knee seems to be OK. Yeah, I've had about enough of winter at this stage. We are only supposed to get another 1-4" tonight. They were talking about potential for another 6-8" a couple days ago, so I guess that's a relief. But with nearly 4 feet in the last 2 weeks, any snow feels like too much. I would expect this if I lived in someplace like Buffalo, but in Philly?!?!?! |
| 2010-02-15 4:13 PM in reply to: #2592294 |
Member 97 New York City | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED This snow is a drag, but here is some good news: I put my bike in for its spring tune-up. Soon it will return from its exile to the shed, and I can keep it in my new basement. I went for an 8.6 mile run yetserday, but felt extremely slow. At least the milage is increasing every week. |
| 2010-02-15 6:45 PM in reply to: #2674133 |
Regular 87 Santa Barbara, CA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Shoes. I am going to need new running shoes soon. I took a Chi running clinic that talked about using a midsole strike and much thinner soled running shoes (newtons, new balance 800's, etc.) Thoughts on triathlon running shoes? I am currently running on Asics Gel Kayano 14's...or is it 13's..anyway. Plus I read "Born to Run" and am seriously considering sewing some leather huaraches myself (that's a joke kids Talk to me about running shoes... Pamela |
| 2010-02-16 8:15 AM in reply to: #2674344 |
Veteran 233 Madison, New Jersey | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Haven't used Newton's yet, but I know a few people who use them and they love them. When switching to Newton's it's important to ease into them otherwise you will get injured. |
| 2010-02-16 8:31 AM in reply to: #2674344 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Do your current shoes cause you problems? Are you constantly getting injured while building volume gradually? I am somewhat sympathetic to those who say many running shoes are "overbuilt". But if they are not causing a problem, I don't see a good reason to change. And I really wouldn't try to force a midfoot strike unless you've determined that there's a problem with the way you currently run. As noted, that shift is just as likely to cause new injuries. Especially if you don't "start over" and rebuild your running very gradually. "Heel striking" is not bad and many elite runners land that way. What they do well is to maintain a good turnover and spend relatively little "contact" time with the ground--less impact being absorbed by their body. Newtons seem to me to be an expensive solution for a problem that not many people actually have. But for the right person (someone who already has a midfoot strike), I'm sure they are a fine shoe. I am reading "Born to Run" as well. Some interesting and entertaining parts so far, but the author's jumps to conclusions on some issues (like the causes of his own running injuries) are hard to take. |
| 2010-02-16 11:42 PM in reply to: #2675032 |
Regular 87 Santa Barbara, CA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED JohnnyKay - 2010-02-16 6:31 AM Do your current shoes cause you problems? Are you constantly getting injured while building volume gradually? I am somewhat sympathetic to those who say many running shoes are "overbuilt". But if they are not causing a problem, I don't see a good reason to change. And I really wouldn't try to force a midfoot strike unless you've determined that there's a problem with the way you currently run. As noted, that shift is just as likely to cause new injuries. Especially if you don't "start over" and rebuild your running very gradually. "Heel striking" is not bad and many elite runners land that way. What they do well is to maintain a good turnover and spend relatively little "contact" time with the ground--less impact being absorbed by their body. Newtons seem to me to be an expensive solution for a problem that not many people actually have. But for the right person (someone who already has a midfoot strike), I'm sure they are a fine shoe. I am reading "Born to Run" as well. Some interesting and entertaining parts so far, but the author's jumps to conclusions on some issues (like the causes of his own running injuries) are hard to take. These are great questions! 1. Overall, I am not an experienced enough runner to even feel confident of my answers. 2. Current Problems: I am experiencing pain outside the right knee and the joint below the right big toe area most of the time. But my right hip has tears in the lining (labrum) and a bone spur, it is elliptical not rounded. I have lost about 40% of the "range of motion/rotation" in my right hip and it will eventually need to be replaced. So my right hip, knee, leg are always in some degree of pain from mild to well...severe. The longer the run, the more the pain migrates down from the hip to the knee to the foot...a limitation I have learned to live with for the last 10 years. So I am not sure if it's the shoes, or just my physical limitation. 3. So my goal it to get the "best" shoes I can to, A. run as long as my body allows, B. build some volume and C. I would love to get FASTER ! 4. My left leg, knee, hip, ankle, foot never cause my any pain or trouble. Just the right side. |
| 2010-02-17 8:36 AM in reply to: #2676703 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Well, I am probably not qualified to give you much direct shoe advice. Especially with the underlying hip issue. Sounds like it has nothing directly to do with running or training, but it may very well have an impact on how you run and how you land on your feet. I'd think your best bet is to pursue your question with some type of sports med doctor who understands your hip issue and can analyze your gait to see if you might benefit from any particular footwear. At a minimum, try to find a good running store where someone can help you select an appropriate shoe to try (although there may be nothing really wrong with the ones you are using now). In your case, I'd be even more cautious about trying random things (like Newtons, Vibrams, barefoot running, etc.) without understanding what kind of changes you'd be making from however you run currently. I'm not saying those things may not be an acceptable answer for you, just that you will be asking your body to make new adaptations when you do so. And I really have no idea how that will all feed back to your hip. Once you find an "acceptable" shoe, then you should just make sure you are increasing your running load very gradually. Be aware of how your body feels during and after runs. I admit I'm persoanally not very good at it but, distinguishing between general "soreness" (OK) and "pain" (BAD) is the key to keeping yourself from an injury that forces you to stop running and start over again later. Not sure how much that helps, but it's about all I got on this subject. If you do come up with more specific questions from talking to a doctor or running shoe specialist, you might get better info from someone in the main forums. Odds are there will be somebody who has faced the same, or at least similar, issue at some point and may have more direct experience to share. |
| 2010-02-17 8:55 AM in reply to: #2677037 |
Regular 87 Santa Barbara, CA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED JohnnyKay - 2010-02-17 6:36 AM Well, I am probably not qualified to give you much direct shoe advice. Especially with the underlying hip issue. Sounds like it has nothing directly to do with running or training, but it may very well have an impact on how you run and how you land on your feet. ........ Johnny. Thanks...you rock. Good info to consider. Might circle back to the doc and see what she says... Edited by sbtrichick 2010-02-17 8:57 AM |
| 2010-02-18 12:44 PM in reply to: #2592294 |
| Regular 95 | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED Pam - I'll be looking into new shoes soon too. I have a pair of Mizuno's that were great last summer and fall, but they have a huge split up the middle of the sole where snow gets stuck. I've tried a few times going out in an old worn down pair of Brooks I hung onto, which is probably fine for the few short and infrequent runs I've been doing lately, but I need a new pair. I'm thinking I might go back to Brooks. They were fine, I wanted to try out a new shoe so went with Mizuno, but I'm not liking the Mizuno winter flaw. I found out I'm definitely in a relay for the Rev3 Quassy Half Iron, not sure if I mentioned that, I'll be the cyclist. I'm excited, I volunteered there last year, and this year there will be a ton more pros there. |
| 2010-02-18 3:08 PM in reply to: #2674344 |
Veteran 233 Madison, New Jersey | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED sbtrichick - 2010-02-15 7:45 PM Shoes. I am going to need new running shoes soon. I took a Chi running clinic that talked about using a midsole strike and much thinner soled running shoes (newtons, new balance 800's, etc.) Thoughts on triathlon running shoes? I am currently running on Asics Gel Kayano 14's...or is it 13's..anyway. Plus I read "Born to Run" and am seriously considering sewing some leather huaraches myself (that's a joke kids Talk to me about running shoes... Pamela Was the clinic helpful? They are having one in April in NYC that I was thinking about going to. Thanks |
| 2010-02-18 3:23 PM in reply to: #2680132 |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED FYI, there are two videos on BT from Danny Dreyer (founder of Chi Running) you might want to check out. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1644 http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1821 There are a lot of people who swear by it, but other than some generally good (and well recognized) advice I'm not a believer that his methods are any better than just getting out and running. The biggest mistake people make is doing too much (volume and/or intensity) too quickly. Not running with "wrong" form. |
| 2010-02-19 2:13 PM in reply to: #2592294 |
| Veteran 260 LaGrange, GA | Subject: RE: JohnnyKay's Group - CLOSED I am now completely committed to this tri thing! Signing up for a tri was a first step but not near as big as purchasing a tri bike. Got measured this week and it will be ready for pick up today after 5PM. I went with the least expensive but it seems to get good reviews, the Felt S32. Red Speedplay pedals to go with the matt black frame with red and white trim. Will not get to ride until Sunday afternoon but the weather will be great and I am sure it will be a blast getting on the road. Only 85 days until my first tri...time to ride! |
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