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2011-04-16 8:42 PM in reply to: #3450629 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE, GEORGE, GEORGE!!!! How did it go today??? I just went to clarify details for your race....and saw that it happened today! I had down that it was tomorrow, same as Jeff's. Arghh! I couldn't get to the results, though, but will keep trying. Probably needless to say, but I'll say it anyhow -- I hope your first tri was a great experience for you. I can hardly wait to hear your comments and thoughts! |
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2011-04-16 9:48 PM in reply to: #3450663 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWHAT GEORGE DID TODAY ---Saturday, 16 April Flora-Bama Mullet Man Triathlon Perdido Key, Florida S -- 0.25mile B -- 15 miles R -- 4 miles 7:30 a.m. start results not available yet (10:45 p.m.) Sorry i missed sending you mojo today, George! |
2011-04-16 9:50 PM in reply to: #3450731 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWHAT JEFF WILL DO TOMORROW -- Sunday, 17 April King Tut Triathlon McKinney, Texas S -- 500 meters B -- 12 miles R -- 3.1 miles 7 a.m. start Jeff is in the greencapped 40+ wave Bib # 229!!!! |
2011-04-16 10:02 PM in reply to: #3450629 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - Jeez, pretty good if you can sight on a folding chair. Perfect vision, perhaps?? Following people will help, and hopefully there will be some big old tetrahedron buoys that will be real tough to miss. As for technique, here are the options: 1.) Stop and peer. 2.) Catch a glimpse, without stopping or slowing, out of the top corner of your upside eye, which will be your right one. 3.) As your right arm is recovering and is about even with yopur shoulder, lift your head high and look straight ahead. Disadvantages: 1.) Stopping means you have to start again, which is never fun. It also means that the person behind you might bump into you. 2.) None, really; this is the one to work on when you get into open water more often. 3.) Each time you lift your head straight up, it cause your back end to sink. Drag then becomes a brief issue, but if repeated 30-40 times for 500 meters, that's a fair amount of drag. In heavily choppy water, however, this is a good technique to have in your arsenal. If you think you must stop and peer, try to keep this to a bare minimum -- such as only when you are desperately confused. And hopefully that won't happen! |
2011-04-16 10:13 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDHey everyone, just a quick post and I will do my log tomorrow. After the race me and the family drove up to Tuscaloosa Al which is a 3.5 hour drive to watch the University of Alabama play TN in a baseball game. We lost 0-1. Then we drove to Birmingham which is about 1 hour away from Tuscaloosa. About to go to bed because we are going to the zoo tomorrow and then back home. Busy weekend, but thats normall. Ok the race, i had a blast, even though it was hard. My goal was to finish in 2 hours and I finished in 2 hours 14 min. Swim was really bad, we swam out past the wave breaks and then swam along the coast line and then back in. The waves and current was horrible, I was tired before I even hit the 1st bouy, so my swim along the coast line was not good. I couldnt get my breath so I was not really able to swim properly.. THe swim consisted of freestyle along with the back stroke, side sroke and even the drowning puppy paddle. But I finished and my legs took a beating, they were like jello coming out of the water. Used the legs way to much. Need to do open water swimming more often. The bike was also murder. Storng strong head wind, normally I bike around 16-18mph but for the 8 miles out it avg between 11-14mph, coming back I avg around 22-23mph. Run, ok remember the head wind I was talking about, well 2 miles was in the wind and it was like I was not even running. I did a lot of run 2 min, walk 3 min. But the postive news, I finished and loved it even though it kicked my butt. Swim was 400 yards, Bike 17 miles and run 4 miles. I raced in In the clyesdale group, there was a total of 31 in the group and I finished 28 out of 31 in the total group and 9 out of 9 in the clyesdale age group. I think I would have done better if I had that Hot Pink cap and not a green one. I need to work on my open water swim which next week Im going to a free open water clinic for triathlons, hope this helps. Also I need to work on the running. Last month I was off 3 weeks due to shin splints and I guess a pulled groin. When I was running between my inside thigh would hurt really bad, today it started back but I had to fight through it. It only hurts when I run and not all the time. Hummmm. OK well gotta go to bed, I will do my log tomm night when I get back home. |
2011-04-17 8:31 AM in reply to: #3450754 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Mighty fine report, and it seems to me that you've about said it all. At least, I have a pretty good picture in my head of what all you went through in terms of surprises and challenges. It certainly does not sound like the friendliest of conditions, and so to have met them head-on, and not cave, and end up having a blast, speaks volumes about you and what you can get out of doing this stuff. Halleloo! For the swim, how was the start for you? Did you get into oxygen-deficit fairly early on, or was it not until partway through? Anything you'd do differently with the swim start? I see you went to other strokes, which is very common; you probably saw lots of other folks doing the same! One thing to work on that might help is to get comfortable with a long, easy freestyle stroke -- not for all the time, but for times like yesterday when breathing becomes difficult. I guess the best way to describe this is a long and leisurely "catch-up" style of stroke. Do you know what I mean by that, or do you want me to explain this some more? Let me know if you do, and I'll be more than happy to provide details! Were you in a wetsuit yesterday? And the open water swim clinic next weekend -- outstanding opportunity for you! I hope to high heaven that it is run well, but really -- anything to do with OWS should help. Woo-hoo! The good thing about the bike is that you had the tailwind on the return. At least for me, I would much, much, much rather have it that way other than to exert for half a bike ride, and then REALLY exert for the second half. And of course, there's the second price to pay right after, with trying to well on legs that have overworked against the wind for the return part of the bike. Wind is a constant where I live, and I have yet to make peace with it. The older I get the more disinclined I becomne to rdie on ultra-windy days; today is a fine example of that. Between '00 and '05 or so I would swimbikerun in just about any copndition; if it was on my schedule, I would do it. But nowadays......naw, I just defer, or if it's a bike ride in wind or a downpour, I'll just put the bike on the trainer and stay more comfy and less challenged! As for the run, well, some of that was covered just above. Running into a wind during a race is about 10X worse than just in a stand-alone training run, for the most obvious of reasons -- you have swam and ridden before it! I know I mentioned to you about changing up your pedaling styles in the final mile or so of the bike to help activate and engage your running muscles, but on a windy day it is even good to just slow things down some and conserve as much energy as possible. That comes down to the time-honored conundrum, which is something like: Will the time I lose in slowing down at the end of the bike be time that I can regain by being stronger on the run? That's a tough call! Do you think it might've worked for you, or were you best-served, time-wise, in bringing home the bike with all the assistance that tailwind provided? Transition thoughts? Nutrition? Given the conditions you faced, I think your actual time was pretty close to what you were aiming for going in. It really doesn't take much in the way of tough conditions to wreak havoc on a time-goal, so being 14 minutes off isn't out of line at all. At least now you have a few sets of benchmark times, and once you have a bundle of races behind you, it will be easier to get an idea of what you're capable of. Final thing for now --- and I thought about putting it right at the top --- is to still take it easy on the running. I hear you, that you think you need to work on it, but go easy until the shin splints are gone. The good news about shin splint is that are seldom a career-ender; the bad news is that they can be very persistent. While you have them, it's a good time to work on shorter efforts that are more technique-driven --- shorter stride, more forward lean, running "pretty". What you should NOT be doing is any sort of speedwork; instead, allow improved speed to come from running more efficiently. Again, as with the swim thought above, let me know if you want more details. Sleep well last night, maybe? And what about the body-marking -- a bit slow to wash it all off? No surprise if so -- your number on your arms and legs is a badge of honor!! |
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2011-04-17 9:21 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE! Awesome job in not too nice conditions! CONGRATS on finishing your event!!!!
Again GEORGE GREAT JOB!!!
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2011-04-17 10:51 AM in reply to: #3450754 |
Member 179![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGoerge, What a great job. I think you can be very proud. YOU DID IT!! And it pretty obnoxious conditions. You did not miss your time by much. The next one will feel like your going downhill the whole way. Well maybe not. I guess they are all different. But you are on your way. Congratulations. Ellen |
2011-04-17 11:15 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDKing Tut tri done, I still don't know why it is called that. Horrible swim....never got my breathing right, ended up on my back allot, I thought I was last out of the water but my wife said I wasn't. I slipped and fell on something on the ramp coming out of the water just as the photographer got my picture I don't have my time yet, my bike was acceptable I think about 40 minutes but cold, run was great, for me, 26:22. Transitions went well even though my toes were numb from being cold, wetsuit came off fine, maybe hung up on my timing chip a second but not an issue. I passed several riders a number from my age group on the ride, the only riders that passed me were pretty serious looking athletes on expensive bikes and they passed me definitively. I passed many more from my ag on the run. I saw a guy from the pool I train at, asked how it went, he said how is that possible "all you do is swim" ..I thought all I did is run! I'm happy with my run! Ok with my ride, irritated and shocked by the swim. So it's more time in the water and if I can afford it some coaching. I'm guessing total time 1hr 20..maybe 1:30 but I could be way off. Edited by Av8rTx 2011-04-17 11:17 AM |
2011-04-17 11:27 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDResults are up: Swim 15:13 3:03/100 (big gap between the timing mat and water btw) T1 1:45 long uphill run from the lake to the bikes -probably 100 meters on concrete Bike 39:04 18.4 mph avg T2 1:00 Run 26:23 8:31 pace Total: 1:23:27.4 AG 14/20 overall 137th/206 Only a 15 minute swim, I swear it felt like an hour, especially with my clunky back stroke and sculling |
2011-04-17 5:35 PM in reply to: #3451072 |
Member 179![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJeff, I'm impressed. I know what you mean about the swim. I have done 4 of these and even though in training I swim for about an hour, in an actual event it feels like it will never end. I think part of it it being disoriented since there is no line to follow. I swim to the left and then have to make a correction. I always have a hard time trying to find the next buoy (The bright orange thing that I should be able to find pretty easily). My goggles are always fogged up. I need to try some of Steve's suggestions on anti-fog stuff. Anyway, you did great.
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2011-04-17 5:39 PM in reply to: #3451355 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDZam92 - 2011-04-17 5:35 PM Jeff, I'm impressed. I know what you mean about the swim. I have done 4 of these and even though in training I swim for about an hour, in an actual event it feels like it will never end. I think part of it it being disoriented since there is no line to follow. I swim to the left and then have to make a correction. I always have a hard time trying to find the next buoy (The bright orange thing that I should be able to find pretty easily). My goggles are always fogged up. I need to try some of Steve's suggestions on anti-fog stuff. Anyway, you did great.
Thanks! Foggy goggles too......"worse swim in triathlon history" is the phrase that crossed my mind-probably not true...maybe. at one point I actually backstroked into a kayak piloted by a concerned gentleman. I told him to just whack me back on course with his paddle
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2011-04-17 9:37 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDThanks everyone for the kind words. Here are the final results Swim 400 yards - 16:25 - Actual swim was 14:26 but it took 2 min to get from the water up the beach to the T1. T1 - 4:01min - Could have been better, but had to rest after the swim. Bike 16.2 miles - 59.24, avg speed out 11-13mph, coming back 21-22mph total avg 16mph T2 - 2:15min - Good trans maybe will start trying running sockless since I bike sockless. It took a little time to get socks on my feet. Run - 4miles - 52:46 - Total time 2:14:48 - Happy with time considering the wind and swim. Steve, yes if you could please give me some detail on the swim. Did not have a wet suit. Swim out to bouy before cutting down the shore for the swim was really tough fighting the waves and current. Before I got to the 1st bouy I was out of breath so I could not keep my head in the water for proper swim. Nutrition I felt was good, jut the swim and biking and running in the head wind was tough. I did not try what you suggested on the bike to prepare for the run since I have not tried it before the race, but I do plan to do it now. |
2011-04-17 9:37 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Elite 3067![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDjeff - great race dude! nice bike and run times and don't worry, the swim gets better. You should be proud of your self! Nice job! |
2011-04-17 9:40 PM in reply to: #3451658 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDBbMoozer - 2011-04-17 9:37 PM jeff - great race dude! nice bike and run times and don't worry, the swim gets better. You should be proud of your self! Nice job! Thanks Sarah, I hope so, I have a new sense of purpose regarding swimming now |
2011-04-17 10:06 PM in reply to: #3450754 |
Veteran 233![]() ![]() ![]() Spokane | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGeorge, Way to go. A finished triathlon is a good triathlon, well done! |
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2011-04-17 10:14 PM in reply to: #3451072 |
Veteran 233![]() ![]() ![]() Spokane | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDAv8rTx - 2011-04-17 9:27 AM Results are up: Swim 15:13 3:03/100 (big gap between the timing mat and water btw) T1 1:45 long uphill run from the lake to the bikes -probably 100 meters on concrete Bike 39:04 18.4 mph avg T2 1:00 Run 26:23 8:31 pace Total: 1:23:27.4 AG 14/20 overall 137th/206 Only a 15 minute swim, I swear it felt like an hour, especially with my clunky back stroke and sculling
Jeff, Well done, great job on the run. |
2011-04-17 10:16 PM in reply to: #3451061 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - I'll jump right into things by saying that you must be on Cloud Nine about that run. I mean, it was just a few days ago that you were musing about what to do between now and K.C., with one goal to get your 10km pace under an hour....and I think you siad it was at 1:08 now. Soooooo, you go out today and knock off a 26:23, and if that doesn't put you in a sweet spot for nailing a sub-hour 10km at K.C., I don't know what would. I don't think you had that type of time for today on your radar, but it just goes to show once again of how a plateau can be conquered, and seemingly out of the blue. Races are often a paradoxically good time for this to happen, as adrenaline gets in there and works its magic. But usually the races in which this happens are mor of the stand-alone variety, and not when there are other complicating factors involved, such as a swim and a bike before. That said, I have had a number of breakthroughs in triathlons and duathlons, so it's rrally just a matter of On Any Given Day! Tough swim, and even up here where people are used to the cold water to some degree, 68 is pretty borderline. I forgot to mention to either you or George that cold water becomes much, much worse when the air temp is also cold -- it's one thing to swim in cold, and another altogether to have your wet hands passing through chilly air on every receovery. It took me a loooong time to figure this out, but now I will not swim in water that is sub-65 or so when the air temp is sub-50 or so. Any idea what the air was this morning? Where did you start in the swim, and what would you do differently next time. Another thing I forgot to mention to you guys is that beach starts are more taxing than in-water starts, as even a short sprint and high-step from shore to swimming depth can spike the herat rate and create breathing problems right about the time you take your first stroke. Very fine transition times! Zoom-zoom! That's THE best way to get some free time saved, working to speed up the transitions. Spend $1500 on a set of race wheels that will save a minute, maybe, on an oly, or get super-fast at transitions and save over a minute on both combined.....the decision is yours! As for the suit getting caught up a bit on my timing strap --- happens about 4 out of every 5 races. You'd think I'd have learned a foolproof technique by now to avoid this problem, but noooooooo! In one race, maybe about '04 or '05, I realized partway through the bike the chip wasn't on my leg. Oops! So in T2 I had to take a few extra seconds to fish into the left leg of my wetsuit, where thank goodness it was. With admirable cleverness, i have not repeated that screw-up! On to your next post! |
2011-04-17 10:30 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDHere are some race photos (Swim (Medium).jpg) (Transition (Medium).jpg) (Beach (Medium).jpg) (Bike (Medium).jpg) (Run (Medium).jpg) Attachments ---------------- Swim (Medium).jpg (34KB - 8 downloads) Transition (Medium).jpg (40KB - 6 downloads) Beach (Medium).jpg (72KB - 8 downloads) Bike (Medium).jpg (37KB - 7 downloads) Run (Medium).jpg (31KB - 6 downloads) |
2011-04-17 10:30 PM in reply to: #3451072 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF again - As for your swim feeling like it was about an hour........yeah, I've had a few like that as well. There are just those races where the swim doesn't seem in synch almost right from the start, and added to that is the sense (usually well-founded that those who started in front of me are pulling away, and those who started behind me are passing me). And then it's as if the wheels (fins??) fall off, and nothing can salvage the effort, except it being over. My most recent experience like this was at an oly in August '09, with a 34-minute 1500m swim that seemed to go on forever. I should check the results for that, but I'm thinking my swim time was in the bottom 30% overall. Bah! DEFINITELY keep working on the swim, however, as the improvements are very sweet when they happen. I spent a few years being around the bottom 30-40% overall, and then I gradually got it so I was in the top 35-50% (that's why the result above was so discouraging). More important, though, and your age and most certainly at mine, is how you rank in the swim agaisnt your peers. in most races I will be in the top one or two in my a.g., and so I try to focus on that level of "accomplishment", as opposed to comparing myself with the younger more supple swimmers. You mentioned a swim coach, and that would really help. If you can find a good swimmer to watch you from the deck at all angles, that would be great. If said person could also watch you from underwater, both approaching and then swimming away, that would be even better. And if you can find someone with a camera that can film you swimming, both from the deck and underwater, that would be best. I'm sure somone around DFW has the ability and willingness to provide that service for you. Sleep well tonight -- you earned it!! |
2011-04-17 10:44 PM in reply to: #3451699 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDstevebradley - 2011-04-17 10:16 PM . Any idea what the air was this morning? Where did you start in the swim, and what would you do differently next time. When I arrived it was in the high 40's maybe 50ish at race start 51-52. We jumped off a dock and swam to a start line marked by two small buoys. The deep water start was new for me also. I started on the right based on veering left thinking I would veer into the crowd and auto-correct. The pack became irrelevant though. I was last in my wave but we had caught and passed some swimmers from the previous wave so I was not last out of the water. I came out near one other guy in my AG, we swapped leads a few times on the bike, I passed him and saw him roll up to his rack in T2-he said something to me-maybe conversational, maybe competitive I'm not sure but apparently I dropped him on the run. Do differently: more proactively get a warm up swim gut it out a bit longer before I worry about sighting-the kayaks were actually doing a good job keeping us on course but my pre-occupation with this plus foggy goggles messed with me. It is possible I might have calmed down and found a grove-especially now that I see it really was only 15 minutes-my time perspective was really messed up! More OWS obviously and more time in deep water adjusting to changing direction, starting/stopping etc At the pool-"turns on the T" instead of at the wall-shorter est intervals, more long sets. I liked my transitions-I took to heart things I had read about this and my wife who watches these things made comments on other peoples transitions at this and other races that was enlightening-both good and bad-including the girl who stopped and waited for a friend to catch up so they could ride together-this same friend dropped her bike right on the roadway out side of the TA because she had "forgot something" and ran back to get it. For the life of me I don't know what she could have forgot for a 12 mile ride? Beyond that just swim-my original idea of dropping 1 weekday swim seem ill-advised now, maybe I'll try to get 4x week. |
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2011-04-17 10:46 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDAnd re-visit bi-lateral breathing |
2011-04-17 10:47 PM in reply to: #3451657 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Yes! I'll get to you with swim stuff soon! As for running sockless, give it a try -- but not at the risk of blisters! In sprints, I make no extra steps in lubing my feet. For olys, however, I usually apply a bit of BodyGlide or Vaseline on the inside of my running shoes before the race. For half-irons I will sometimes take the extra few seconds to smear some lubricant on my feet in T2, just to make sure it's done right. All that said, though, if in doubt of remaining blisterless it is far better to take the extra seconds to put on socks than to be crippled with blisters during the run. That goes into the vast category of what my former coach Erik used to say -- "Don't do something to save a few seconds now, if it will cost you a few minutes later"..............and that's exactly how blisters can affect one in a race. FWIW, my feet are in terrible shape, with calluses on top of calluses, and thick horn-like nails,a nd cracks galore. The upside to this is that they are pretty damn tough, so stand up well and don't blister hardly ever. Another "trick" --- BodyGlide now makes a powder that comes in a thin little envelope-thing. I carry one of these in the pocket of my tri shorts on ALL sockless runs, just in case a hot-spot develops during the run. At MightyMan half-iron in '09, at about mile 10 I started to feel a hot spot, ran a bit more, got worried, and stopped and applied the BG powder. I think I'm convinced that had I not done that, I might've had a more serious problem a mile or two later --- just as I would be trying to kick it home. Needless to say, I was pleased with myself for carrying that with me! Lots of time to practice and refine techniques and tactics and tricks, as you're still a pretty young pup who has a lotta years left in your tri career!! |
2011-04-17 10:50 PM in reply to: #3451724 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE again - Hey! Those photos are finally appearing on a sloth-like dial-up computer here. Two are up, and it's just a matter of time before they all appear. Praise be! The swim one -- you sure look happy with things!!! |
2011-04-17 11:01 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED |
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