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2011-04-18 7:43 AM in reply to: #3451734 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - You weasel, you! You snagged the honor and glory of claiming the 2500th post here.....but then it's a post with nothing in it. Shrewd. Cagey. But I'm on to your tricks! I'll get to your more recent full post later, when I return from trying to get new tags for my car. Bye for now! Edited by stevebradley 2011-04-18 8:22 AM |
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2011-04-18 8:41 AM in reply to: #3451718 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF again - Mission accomplished, and my car is valid for another year! Your post was a fun one to read -- although not too fun to "feel" that one-two punch of cold air and water. The only blessing is that the swim was not 1000 or 1500 or more. I've had one or two of the latter in races, and it's wicked awful, with the only saving grace being that good old adrenaline must help some in bringing body heat closer to the surface. Or at least that's the placebo effect I liked to imagine. Your comment about the kayaks doing their job well is a good one, and I probably should've thought of it with all the do and don't lists. If the swim-crowd is thick and the kayaks form a nice cordon, sighting is not quite so necessary at the start.....but beast of habit that I am, I often do it anyhow, just because it's what I do. Much of the "sporadic-breathing" work I've done this off-season has been designed to remove my tendency to robot-breathe, so we'll see if I can actually pull this off in races. Two big sources of angst for me are goggle-related: fogging and leaking. I take care of the former with either a commercial solvent or (mostly) tried-and-true saliva (and often both -- just to be safe!), and have only had fogging problems a few times in races. The latter, however, always agitates me, and I hate races in which (a) it is a beach start and (b) there is no warm-up allowed. When (b) happens, I will get way away from the swim start, find water to dip into, make sure my goggle seal is secure.....and then just keep them on, even if my wave doesn't go for 10-20 minutes. I may be the only geek on shore wearing his goggles.....but at least I'm a geek with a certain peace-of-mind! I've heard several stories of friends who have tried to stay together during a race os they can finish hand-in-hand, but one of them got too aggressive, or maybe too slow, and they ended up splitting during the race, and bad feelings post-race were inevitable. I would always advise a hug and/or a kiss at the swim start, and then a "See you somewhere in the food line after the finish." Swim 4X a week? Sure! Give it a try, and as long as it doesn't consume your life, it can only help. Glub! Edited by stevebradley 2011-04-18 8:42 AM |
2011-04-18 9:39 AM in reply to: #3451709 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Wonderful photos, well worth the time it took for our computer to fiannly have its way with them! Let's see..... Rough water! Mercy! The tp one shows not just chop, but stuff a bit more rowdy and ominous. The other water photo shows rolling chop beyond the breakers that suggests "frisky" at the very least. Nice job of setting up your transition space! The Organization Man was aliveand well and sporting #219! The other three are simply tributes to a Triathlete Having Fun. I cannot tell you how those ones warm the cockles of my heart, and I hope that every race you do finds you just as happy! Many, many thanks for posting all the photos! |
2011-04-18 10:07 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSorry about the blank post! I was trying to upload pictures and getting frustrated re-sizing them, when I gave up I couldn't delete the post. I didn't fully appreciate how tired I realy was. |
2011-04-18 10:58 AM in reply to: #3443092 |
Veteran 142![]() ![]() Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDDAVID - Oops! Almost missed your post! Okay, let's see..... Practicing the new pedal system in a business park is a great idea -- just be reminded that that's where those hot-to-trot mid-teens are practicing their newfound driving skills! As for the long swims, here's my thinking. You've got a bunch of races that require 500m-1000m swims, tops, with Pinehurst still about half a year away. While long swims are good just in and of themselves, I say those can be scrapped or modified as the need arises. I should check the swim distances for the three sprints you have on your race list; it might just be that none of them exceed even 800m. So......think about modifying any of those >1200m swims to something between 800 and 1200. Alternatively, figure what your realistic swim time will be for the longest of the sprint swims, and go maybe five minutes longer than that on each of your longer swims. I really think that should suffice until early August, at which point you can start ramping up to the 1500 at Pinehurst. I just think it is bestter for you to (1) focus on technique and (2) focus on sprint-distnce swim-spped, than it is to plow out big yardage. Is that a plan that is here at BT? If so, I'll have a look at it; let me know! As for tapering for May 1, well, the last brief paragraph kind of applies here. But without seeing the plan I would scrap the workouts from Thursday on through the Sunday and replace them with nothing on Saturday, maybe a 25-30 minute ride on Friday, and an easy 20 minute run on Thursday, maybe including a few (3-5?) "pick-ups" of about 20s each. On either of those days you could also do a swim, preferably an easy mixed set: warm-up, a few 25-50 meter sprints with generous rest between them, a few 100-200 meter fast efforts with good rest between, and possibly a "cruise" of 400-600 meters. 800-1000m ought to do it. If things need to be juggled, the ride could be on the Sturday, the earlier the better. Don't run. And if you swim on Saturday, keep it simple; maybe eliminate the 25-50m sprints. Coming out of the race, look at the workouts you jettisoned and see if any seem to be "key" ones. If so, slot them in IN PLACE OF SOMETHING LESS IMPORTANT -- don't piggyback them on to other workouts, as everything suffers (or is compromised) when that is done. What fish did you manage to catch; or was that not really the focus of the "fishing" trip? Steve, Sorry it took me a while to get back...busy busy! I broke out the new pedal system this weekend....no major issues, just need to get used to feeling completely locked in to the bike! I can definately tell I can generate more power efficiently when compared to cages so I am looking forward to my next race in a couple of weeks. Regarding the Intermediate Sprint program and the long swim workouts....I revised my plan a little bit and decided to go with another plan on BT....the Sprint Balanced Lifestyle program. This puts the swims in the 800-1200 range and gives me more felxibility with work/family. After that I go into a Sprint-Olympic Bridge and then full out Olympic training before Pinehurst. I agree that I need to focus more on my swimming form than try to pump out alot of yardage since my next 3 reaces ae no more than 750m swims. Unfortunately due to the "White Squall" that knocked our camp down on Fri night...Sat was a rebuild day and didn't leave us much time to fish. We caught a couple of sharks here an there but nothing too exciting or halfway edible! David |
2011-04-18 11:07 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 142![]() ![]() Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED |
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2011-04-18 11:23 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Member 42![]() Ohio | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGood morning all!!! ****Congrats Jeff and George on races well done this weekend!!! Hope you are rested and injury free!!!***** George- We did get a couple of days of nice weather thanks for sending it my way but could you please send a little more! Johanne- I did not even get a chance to see what kind of saddle it was, he suggested it saying it was made for women and put it on I guess I should check on that! Got my first ride in on the "new" bike I do feel like I have a bit more power I guess we'll see after I get a few more rides under my belt. I was having trouble with the position he suggested I use for the aerobars, he wanted be sitting more forward on the seat, but that will take some getting used to!! Although it might be awhile again before the weather let's me back outside...... so goes our ever changing Ohio weather!! Steve- this is the first time on my bike since the fall, (been using the stationary bikes at the Y) so I don't think my body really noticed the changes it is just trying to get used to riding again! Trying to keep the mojo going!!! Enjoy your day everyone!!! Shannen |
2011-04-18 11:49 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 487![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() McFarland, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDCongrats Jeff and George! Great start to the season for both of you! Jeff, that was a nice bike and a great run! George, I love the pictures! The smile on the run picture says it all. Swimming without a wetsuit in those waves is impressive. Steve, I have two one-hour run workouts this week. Both are a warm up followed by :30/:30s hard/easy until I can't hold form. What the heck is the purpose of these short duration hard intervals followed by short duration recoveries? I plan on adding your suggested long run mileage to one of these by doing close to 10 miles. Thanks! |
2011-04-18 4:25 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED86 degrees! Low around 70ish tonight-finally some moderate weather |
2011-04-18 4:47 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJeff Congrats on your race, I know how you feel about the swim. I thought I had swam to Australia and back. I looked down at my watch at one point and it was like around 7min and the bouy was a long way away, heck I thought I was out there for about 25minutes. The photo of the swim looks like I was happy, and I was Happy to be on my 2 feet. I guess since it was a beach start and I did not do a warm-up on the swim, my heart hit the roof when I entered the water, because I went about 40yds to the bouy and I could not catch my breath. My next race is a duathlon on May 14th. Its a 2mile run / 10 mile bike / 2 mile run. Got the persmission from my wife to buy some aero bars for my bike. Im looking at the Profile Design T2+. Searching on the internet for the best deal on them. So far found website that has them for $84 but I need to see what tax and shipping comes to, it might be better getting from my LBS. |
2011-04-18 6:35 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 663![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Central Point | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSteve, I ran out of time today at lunch to do my 70 min "long run" today so I did 40 min and when things slowed down I did the other 30 min. How does that translate? I still got my time in but I'm sure my pace was a little faster overall because of the break. I guess my question is is this a good idea or should I add a few more minutes to the second run. |
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2011-04-18 9:36 PM in reply to: #3453596 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDCRAIG - Well, the only way to get a 70-minute run as prescribed is to do the 70 minutes straight. HOWEVER, the way you describe the two parts of your effort tells me that a fair bit of good came out of the 30-minute one, as you actually ran it faster than you would've run the final 30' of a straight 70' run. There is much to be said for getting faster by running faster, so I think you did a fine job of adjusting the plan and reaping some benefits from it. Now, I wouldn't make a habit of it, but what you did today was just fine. And again -- finding that additional speed on the second run is a very fine cherry on top of the day's efforts! Might that be a breakthrough in the making?? |
2011-04-18 9:43 PM in reply to: #3453436 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Ha! Funny thing about the aerobars for you is that when I was looking at your transition spot photo, I was thinking that your helmet would really look much better perched upside-down on a set of aerobars.....and maybe that's where it will be when you do the du on the 14th. Cool beans! I think you'll love that duathlon, as it will be that much shorter than Mullet man. Imean, same overall run distance, but divided by a bike ride in which you get to sit down for most of ten miles -- which in itself is less than the distance of the Mullet Man ride. I love triathlon more than duathlon, and am upset when conditions force a tri to be changed to a du....but i gotta admit that setting up and carrying out a du is a few degrees easier than hassling through the swim gear and all of a triathlon. What is the du you'll be doing? |
2011-04-18 10:31 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDThe pool at 24hr still not working right. On the positive side there is never anyone in it! But this isn't what I was paying for. Part of me thinks I should suck it up and swim, but I get concerned about being able to focus on my stroke etc when I am that cold. There is a local heated pool here in Denison but it's hours are not real convenient, I would have to learn to be a morning person and it is pay as you go-like $3.50 http://www.quickscores.com/Orgs/ExtraMsg.php?OrgDir=denison&ExtraMsgID=1298 Nice looking pool anyway-I run by it allot at night. My work hours are 11am to 8pm and I work 1 hour from home, I have to be on my way to work by about 9:30ish, the local pool does not have weekend hours but I do see swim meets happening there on weekends. I could "run-commute" to the pool and back in the AM and get a little 1.5 mile or so run each way. Moving my swims to the morning frees up some evening hours to be at home or some evening training. I'll check it out this week and see what it is like. I appreciate the 24 hr accessibility I had. |
2011-04-18 10:49 PM in reply to: #3452645 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI - Thinking about it a bit, those are pretty good workouts! I would view them as prep for a race in which you do most of it at a steady pace, and then for the final mile or so work at pushing your limits. My run last Sept at Lake George Tri (oly) was very much like your workout's guidelines, wherein for the final mile I would go real hard for maybe 30-40 seconds, then back off some for about 20, and then repeatrepeatrepeat. I wasn't counting seconds, but just trying to sustain the hard parts without blowing up. It was like continually going to the edge, and then backing off before creeping up again. And it helped me to run a 45:31 on a prety tough course, which satisfied me immensely! It should work to not only work on your fast-twitch muscles some, but mostly to build your confidence --- you just ran a steady hour, and you can STILL crank it up a few notches. makes for a nice "statement" finish to a race. The part about form falling apart is important, and sat leat for me I have to be careful that really strong finishes don't find me over-exaggerating my mecahnics and tweaking my Achilles. I guess how it could affect any given person will vary, but for me it's the Achilles. If you extend one of those runs to ten miles, then I would recommend passing on the prescribed speedwork after it. Yeah, definitely. One hour will get you about 6-7 miles, so adding on another 3-4 miles might be enough without adding the potential aggravation of the the 30"/30" thing. Most speed sets as part of a longer run will have that work in the middle, but i don't know too many people who start a race slow, pick it up significantly in the middle, and then plan on dialing it all down at the end. I think it is more realistic, and thus more beneficial, to look at race speed as steady-strong throughout, and then try to nail down some big gains at the end -- just as the prescribed set has you doing. I really want to know how it went for you, and how many of theose 30/30s you were able to do well. Good stuff! |
2011-04-19 3:47 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDThe du that I'm doing on 5/14 is hosted by one of the Hospitals here in Mobile (The Infirmary Twilight Duo) http://infirmaryduathlon.racesonline.com/ Last year they hosted a bike race but this year they said they are trying to get more people involed so they are doing the duo instead. They are allowing teams in this race for the ones that dont bike or race they can find a partner that does. Its a pretty flay course except for one area that has one hill. I do have a question for everyone. When I run, my inside left thigh (between my thigh and crotch area) tends to hurt. It does not hurt when I walk and only when running around 2 minutes or more. Im not sure If I pulled something. Im about to leave for a bike and run this morning and if it still hurts then I want to see a Dr to make sure all is good before I cause an injury. The question is if I need to see a Dr, would you go to a family Dr or see someone that has to do with I guess muscle, joints or a sports Dr?? is there a such thing as a sports Dr?? oh well.. Not really sure, Family Dr's make me nervous when I go for something other than feeling sick. I will let yall know how I feel when i get back from the workout. |
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2011-04-19 6:09 AM in reply to: #3454047 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - I'm not sure what is ailing you. I am going through my own bout of high-thigh/groin problems, and can't quite pin it down. Google adductor and abductor muscles, and see if anything fits you. (I can never remember which of those two goes which way -- that is, which moves the leg out, which brings it in.) As for doctors, yes, there are sports docs and if you can find one that would be best. My GP, until she retired a few months ago, was okay with sports stuff, but mostly I took that to a different, my "sports doc". He too is basically a GP, but as a lifelong high-level runner himself, he sure knows his way around athletic problems. He has helped me through more "issues" than I care to remember....and I'm about to take this new thing to him! Another thing about regular docs is that they are often very critical of endurance athletes; I guess they feel that we bring our woes onto oursleves. I can live with that part of the assesssment, but it's the "You shouldn't run, nobody should run" pronouncements that I have a problem with. My GP never said that, but the forums are full of accounts of docs who have, so I just wouldn't count on fair and balanced treatment options from a doctor who was hostile to me pursuits. Yeah! |
2011-04-19 7:13 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDThanks Steve, I will look those big words up. I biked 15.5 miles and then went on a 2 mile run. The 1st mile was good 10:29min, but the last mile I had to do some run and walk. Total on the 2 miles 23:58min. Legs did ok considering I just came off the bike. The thigh area was a little sore but nothing like it was on last Sat at the race. I'm going to try stretching that area more before a workout to see if that helps and if not then will look at trying to find a sports DR. I feel the problem with the run was lack of experince, since I have not done to many bike then run workouts. My schedule that Im on now has me doing brick workouts twice a week, so hope that will help. Have a great day everyone. |
2011-04-19 9:56 AM in reply to: #3453387 |
Veteran 233![]() ![]() ![]() Spokane | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDAv8rTx - 2011-04-18 2:25 PM 86 degrees! Low around 70ish tonight-finally some moderate weather Snowed off and on all day yesterday, snowed hard at twilight, grass and roof tops snow covered this morning. Enough already! |
2011-04-19 1:40 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGene - Wow you are having snow in April?? Heck this morning at 4am it was 72 degrees. Yall need to pack your bags and head down to the South. I have 1 bedroom avail where we can put about 4 set of bunk beds in so everyone can stay |
2011-04-19 1:40 PM in reply to: #3451709 |
Member 179![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGeorge, Great pictures. That swim looks a little rough. I have only been in rivers and lakes. I have a new appreciation of your effort. Ellen |
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2011-04-19 1:52 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDHey! Next on my calendar, a metric century in charming Muenster Texas-part of their German Fest Celebration-4/30/11 should be fun and a change of pace. I'll do about 58 this Saturday to prepare for it |
2011-04-19 3:16 PM in reply to: #3453436 |
Veteran 142![]() ![]() Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDgdsemiller - 2011-04-18 5:47 PM Jeff Congrats on your race, I know how you feel about the swim. I thought I had swam to Australia and back. I looked down at my watch at one point and it was like around 7min and the bouy was a long way away, heck I thought I was out there for about 25minutes. The photo of the swim looks like I was happy, and I was Happy to be on my 2 feet. I guess since it was a beach start and I did not do a warm-up on the swim, my heart hit the roof when I entered the water, because I went about 40yds to the bouy and I could not catch my breath. My next race is a duathlon on May 14th. Its a 2mile run / 10 mile bike / 2 mile run. Got the persmission from my wife to buy some aero bars for my bike. Im looking at the Profile Design T2+. Searching on the internet for the best deal on them. So far found website that has them for $84 but I need to see what tax and shipping comes to, it might be better getting from my LBS. George, You may want to keep an eye on the classified section of BT. Aerobars are always being sold and if you figure out which kind you like, you can definately get a deal! I got a set of Profile Design for $50 (brand new still in the original package)....normally $85+ at retail stores....just a thought to keep an eye on it and you will be surprised what people are selling! David |
2011-04-19 3:36 PM in reply to: #3453877 |
Veteran 233![]() ![]() ![]() Spokane | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSteve, A couple questions; 1. Cadence - on the flat I average 18-20 mph with a cadence of 70-75. When I speed up my cadence to 85-90 I gear up and end up in the 16-18 mph range with a increased heart rate of about 5 bpm. my gut tells me that 70-75 is more efficient for me, what do you think? Should I keep pushing to 90? 2. On Saturdays, now that the sun is up and the snow is gone, i have been riding my bike to the YMCA, 10 miles each way, swimming for 1500 yds., give or take, then riding home. I guess this is technically a brick workout. is there any downside to doing this brick every week? i also have gotten in the habit of doing a similar bike run brick every Sunday for 100 minutes or so. Good or bad? |
2011-04-19 3:46 PM in reply to: #3455279 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSementi - 2011-04-19 3:36 PM Steve, A couple questions; 1. Cadence - on the flat I average 18-20 mph with a cadence of 70-75. When I speed up my cadence to 85-90 I gear up and end up in the 16-18 mph range with a increased heart rate of about 5 bpm. my gut tells me that 70-75 is more efficient for me, what do you think? Should I keep pushing to 90? what happens at 80-85rpm? And to quibble a bit, chances are you are "gearing down" (down shifting) not up. I know the chain moves "upward" to a bigger cog, but it is a smaller gear. A faded memory from years past-we focused on high cadence training as a winter thing mostly-I even built a fixed gear bike to use. As the season progressed there was less emphasis on cadence, the theory being we had developed good habits and muscle memory during the off season. I don't know much about these new power meters but it stands to reason that a true test of your efficiency at a given gear ratio/cadence will be that way, not speed alone. I await Steve's insight... |
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