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 2011-05-02 4:30 PM in reply to: #3475463 |
Elite  3067    Cheesehead, WI |  Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDHey folks - Johanna - you ARE one busy lady! Love the horsecam on fb. And to those who've lost pets, my heart ached reading the stories --- I've had to put down 2 cats at the vet and it was heart breaking. One didn't die with the first injection!!! Talk about doubting that decision. It was awful...the vet (new) went to get another shot after my kitty hissed like he was his old self. Very hard on me. One of our cats now is 12/13 years old..she's my first female kitty and she's a sweetie. She's getting a bit arthritic and is obese so its a double wammy...oddly, she doesn't eat as much as the other kitty but just sits around all day and rather than run after a toy, she'll wait til it comes to her (she's done that since she was a kitten!) Anyhow... did my race yesterday (report is up)...windy like a hurricane. NOT happy with my performance but not really trained up to par being so early in the outdoor season here. It's supposed to get to 32 degrees tonight...grrrrr! I teach spin tonight and I think I'm gonna incorporate some sprints with resistance in each class now |
| 2011-05-02 4:55 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 244 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED So today started my marathon training. I also am starting the Paelo diet today, we will see how it goes. I have heard the workouts are crappy for the first 2-3 weeks but after that the body is used to the food and the workouts just go through the roof. |
| 2011-05-02 8:01 PM in reply to: #3478407 |
Champion 10618  | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED DANIEL - Let me know how Paleo Diet goes for you. I have been tempted over the years, and learning that Joe Friel is an advocate of it is pretty high praise. I think I should go back to the book and refresh my memory as to what all is involved with it. And, which marathon plan are you following? Just curious! |
| 2011-05-02 8:08 PM in reply to: #3478359 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED SARAH - I will check out your report later, but righjt now I'm just hear to tell you not to beat up yourself too much so early in the season. Those of us in northern climes really are behind the eight ball so early in the year, and that's regardless of how diligent we have been with indoor riding, and to a lesser extent with outdoor running. I will likely do a du this coming Saturday, but I have my doubts due to some nagging hip/groin issues. I did a very promising run/bike/run brick yesterday, so I'm maybe a bit optimistic....but I've learned never to set the bar too high until into June. I'll go to your report in a while! (Playing computer-tug-of-war with Lynn....and seem to be losing.  ) |
| 2011-05-02 8:13 PM in reply to: #3477491 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOHANNE - Welcome back! And don't stress about missing those workouts -- they were sidelights to the whole girls-and-horses focus, yes? No flats until now? Lucky lady! I could be a poster boy for flats, and most of mine have been back wheels. That makes it slightly more difficult and potentially many times more messy to do tham front ones. I can give you some advice is you would like, but the biggest piece is to make sure you are in your small ring and smallest cog before trying to remove the wheel; it's sol much easier that way! The second piece is to practice at home. Just manually deflate the tube and set to it! Trial-and-error! Have fun!  More later, if you want. (Do you have a good description of how to do it?) |
| 2011-05-02 8:23 PM in reply to: #3477021 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ALEX - Thank you for those numbers. I will crunch them some and see what materializes! First thought -- you deserved bettwer than having a first race in which there are only three splits. Most races will have the transition times separate from the actual disciplines, and that makes it easier to know (1) how you did in the transitions, and (2) your TRUE pace in the actual legs. I have a probable race on Saturday with a race series that only provides three splits, and it makes me nuts. To compensate, thouygh, i use my experience and knowledge to figure where the extra timing mats would be were there five splits, and I hit my watch at those points. At least that tells me what my correct paces were, and for you, of course, your actual time on the bike was probably anywhere from 4 to 8 minutes less than that 50:20, as the two transition times for probably accounted for 4-8 minutes or so. You think? For a first race, you kept that second run reasonably close to the first one -- nicely done! Your race's results will probably back up the generality that about 90% of folks in a du do the first run significantly faster than the second run. The two mian reasons are obvious -- enthusiasm to start, cumulatrive fatigue to finish. So, for you to be 3:25 "slower" on the second run is pretty good! How is your body feeling 2+ days post-race? Any residual aches and pains? |
| 2011-05-02 9:10 PM in reply to: #3476787 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - YES! HAIL -- GREAT TRAINING TACTIC! If in doubt, try to google "Wes Hobson swim training", and maybe add "Clif Bar" to it if nothing comes up. This will hopefully lead you to a short (sub-minute) video of what may or my not have been something he really tried to do as a viable form of swim-start training. Have fun! |
| 2011-05-02 9:22 PM in reply to: #3477395 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED DAVID - So sorry about your dog. Our houndo will be 14 in July, and as a medium-sized pup she's pushing some serious age limits. I am mostly constantly aware of the possibility of problems, and trying to figure out how I will handle the inevitable. How dis your kid(s?) handle it all? On a brighter note, those numbers from the two races are awesome -- especially the scorchin' bike improvement. And even though you aren't thrilled with the run numbers, those are mammoth jumps in speed/pace gains. Ain't revenge sweet? As for the swim, well, doubling the distance and only drop off on pace by :13 is also really good. For most people, doubling the distance will show a slower time that exceeds 13s/100. How do you treat your stitches? One way is to press HARD right under the diaphragm, which'll be the right side if it's a true side stitch. Another tactic is to powerfully expel your breath each time the right foot makes contact. That may sound ludicous, but it really helps. Both of these you can do while still running, with a third option being to stop and breathe pointedly, while walking slowly and arching your back some. I hope you NEVER get another stitch (I haven't had one in about 12 years), but if you do those ideas might help. |
| 2011-05-02 9:25 PM in reply to: #3477113 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED GEORGE - I think you should change your tactics and do those looooong rides at 4:42 exactly....and then check your computer and see how far you got. And THEN phone your wife to come and get you from wherever you got to! Have you looked into adductor muscle as your inner thigh problem? If so, and it fits, I have some info on how to treat it. Let me know, okay? |
| 2011-05-02 10:11 PM in reply to: #3478816 |
Elite 3067 Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-05-02 9:25 PM GEORGE - I think you should change your tactics and do those looooong rides at 4:42 exactly....and then check your computer and see how far you got. And THEN phone your wife to come and get you from wherever you got to! Have you looked into adductor muscle as your inner thigh problem? If so, and it fits, I have some info on how to treat it. Let me know, okay? Hey...buttin' in on this - George/Steve - inner thigh issue. If it arose on the bike, why and how to alleviate? I had a really bad pain about 3 miles from the finish (and intermittently from then on) on my left inner thigh sort of to the back/buttock region. Standing made is seem better. Seat height? Too much mashing? Just tight muscles? |
| 2011-05-03 6:27 AM in reply to: #3478894 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED SARAH - First, I enjoyed your report -- especially your paranthetical digression about wind and hills and bridges and Wisconsin. It seems like you had something that needed saying! Second, congrats on breaking that 9-minute barrier!!! Now you know what that pace feels like when it actually matters, and you can build from here -- play with it some, push its edges, approach it, draw back, etc. And I think part of that hapened on the second run, with the culmulative effects of the rough bike as well as the efforts of that first run -- and as you say, lack of real training to date. Third......have fun in those transitions? Hearken back to those childhood days of romping in the mud? All I can say is YECHH! I've had a few mudpit transitions, and they certainly can add a twist to things. They are especially tough on those of us who generally make a decent effort at maintaining a clean bike! Finally, your placements were solid in both respects -- overall and age group. How do these compare to last yar at this race (you did do it before, yes?). AND -- where is the celebratory photo of you and offspring sporting your medals together? |
| 2011-05-03 6:45 AM in reply to: #3478894 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED SARAH again - As for your thigh/leg/buttock problem, it's hard to say. When you say "thigh....back/buttock region", are you referring to the back of the leg or your actual back? If it's at the back of the leg then it could be hamstrings, or something I am going to misspell here, the ischial tuberosity. Both of these can be affecetd by overstriding, which can be mimicked on the bike by hitting a hill and then lunging out of the saddle to power up the rest of the hill. Both of those maneuvers -- the lunge, the power -- can contribute to a hamstring strain. George's case seems more like adductor, whereas yours moved around pretty quickly to further back. But adductors also repsond unfavorably to overstriding or even a sudden leg extention, and can also be exacerbated by hillwork. How is your condition today; any improvement? (And hopefully nothing progressively worse!) If you are planning a run, try to stay away from hills, and also take the first mile or so quite easily -- small strides, slow pace. Let me know how you're doing, okay? |
| 2011-05-03 7:53 AM in reply to: #3478693 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-05-02 9:23 PM ALEX - Thank you for those numbers. I will crunch them some and see what materializes! First thought -- you deserved bettwer than having a first race in which there are only three splits. Most races will have the transition times separate from the actual disciplines, and that makes it easier to know (1) how you did in the transitions, and (2) your TRUE pace in the actual legs. I have a probable race on Saturday with a race series that only provides three splits, and it makes me nuts. To compensate, thouygh, i use my experience and knowledge to figure where the extra timing mats would be were there five splits, and I hit my watch at those points. At least that tells me what my correct paces were, and for you, of course, your actual time on the bike was probably anywhere from 4 to 8 minutes less than that 50:20, as the two transition times for probably accounted for 4-8 minutes or so. You think? For a first race, you kept that second run reasonably close to the first one -- nicely done! Your race's results will probably back up the generality that about 90% of folks in a du do the first run significantly faster than the second run. The two mian reasons are obvious -- enthusiasm to start, cumulatrive fatigue to finish. So, for you to be 3:25 "slower" on the second run is pretty good! How is your body feeling 2+ days post-race? Any residual aches and pains? In terms of times, they didn't have timing chips so there wasn't any way to get the 5 splits. It was the first race done by this group but it was overall very well run. I also forgot to push my lap button or I would have had pretty good split times for all legs. Given the fall, I was pretty happy with my run times. My bike was timed on my garmin at 44:xx (don't remember the seconds) but it was a bit faster than the 50:20 and I did spend 5 min or so trying to help get the flat tire fixed so that cut into my time as well but for my first race I am pleased with my results. My body is a bit sore, mostly the ankle I turned and the knee I fell on. Both are still swollen. I took yesterday off and will swim today, probably won't try running until Thursday or Friday. I have a bike ride scheduled for tomorrow. |
| 2011-05-03 9:47 AM in reply to: #3478672 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-05-02 6:13 PM JOHANNE - Welcome back! And don't stress about missing those workouts -- they were sidelights to the whole girls-and-horses focus, yes? No flats until now? Lucky lady! I could be a poster boy for flats, and most of mine have been back wheels. That makes it slightly more difficult and potentially many times more messy to do tham front ones. I can give you some advice is you would like, but the biggest piece is to make sure you are in your small ring and smallest cog before trying to remove the wheel; it's sol much easier that way! The second piece is to practice at home. Just manually deflate the tube and set to it! Trial-and-error! Have fun! More later, if you want. (Do you have a good description of how to do it?) David, so sorry to hear about your dog. It's hard to lose our pets that are so much a part of our families. The gift we give them is to be able to be there for them and know when it's time to end their pain. Steve, I think after watching my bike guy, I have a good handle on changing the tire out. I told my husband that when I get back from this trip we're going to take some time and do both of our front and back tires for practice. I always learn best by watching someone then doing it myself and the bike guy had me do it so I think I'll remember. I just have to stuff some surgical gloves I have at the barn into my bike bad and I'll be set. It was a messy job! George, you are doing so great with all the biking. You go! Sarah, every time I read about you teaching a class I'm impressed! Plus I can't believe you guys are getting such cold nights still. What is up with that??? Alex, loved the race report. I always feel the same way in a race when I'm transitioning to the next thing and there are finishers ahead of me and I'm just going off on the bike. I'm thinking to myself...ok then! Jeff, great running plan and really great achieving your goal. |
| 2011-05-03 9:52 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Sarah - Great job on the race. As for the pain Im having its on the inside left thigh by the groin. It only hurts when I run and does not bother me when I swim or bike. Have an appointment today at 1:50 with a sports Doctor that several members of the tri group I joined referred me to. I just hope its something simple and quick I have a Du race on 5/21 and a Sprint on 6/4 and I need to get out running again to prepare. UGGHHH I hate not being able to train properly.. I will let yall know this evening what the Dr said. |
| 2011-05-03 10:48 AM in reply to: #3479540 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED 50andgettingfit - 2011-05-03 9:47 AM I just have to stuff some surgical gloves I have at the barn into my bike bad and I'll be set. It was a messy job! Baby wipes do a great job cleaning chain oil off your hands. Carry a small package in your bike bag for that reason, if you worry about that sort of thing. On long rides they are as good as a shower if you want to freshen up a bit. |
| 2011-05-03 10:53 AM in reply to: #3479687 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Av8rTx - 2011-05-03 8:48 AM 50andgettingfit - 2011-05-03 9:47 AM I just have to stuff some surgical gloves I have at the barn into my bike bad and I'll be set. It was a messy job! Baby wipes do a great job cleaning chain oil off your hands. Carry a small package in your bike bag for that reason, if you worry about that sort of thing. On long rides they are as good as a shower if you want to freshen up a bit. Good idea too. That would be good for sticky Gu fingers. Thanks! |
| 2011-05-03 11:09 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 244 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Streve-- I have pooed more in the past 24hr than I have in the last week. I think it has to do with all of the fiber and the natural clensing that is a byproduct of the diet.
I am following a modified Hal Hidgon's novice marathon 1 plan. I am cross-training with swimming on Mondays and Fridays. |
| 2011-05-03 11:11 AM in reply to: #3478812 |
Veteran 142 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED DAVID - So sorry about your dog. Our houndo will be 14 in July, and as a medium-sized pup she's pushing some serious age limits. I am mostly constantly aware of the possibility of problems, and trying to figure out how I will handle the inevitable. How dis your kid(s?) handle it all? On a brighter note, those numbers from the two races are awesome -- especially the scorchin' bike improvement. And even though you aren't thrilled with the run numbers, those are mammoth jumps in speed/pace gains. Ain't revenge sweet? As for the swim, well, doubling the distance and only drop off on pace by :13 is also really good. For most people, doubling the distance will show a slower time that exceeds 13s/100. How do you treat your stitches? One way is to press HARD right under the diaphragm, which'll be the right side if it's a true side stitch. Another tactic is to powerfully expel your breath each time the right foot makes contact. That may sound ludicous, but it really helps. Both of these you can do while still running, with a third option being to stop and breathe pointedly, while walking slowly and arching your back some. I hope you NEVER get another stitch (I haven't had one in about 12 years), but if you do those ideas might help. Steve, Fortunately my daughter is only 4 so she hasn't quite grasped the concept, but my wife did buy a children'k book about Dog Heaven, so I think she understands that's where she is. Regarding the stitches, this was the first time I have had one that lasted the entire run (and it was on the right side). I did try to deepen my breathing pattern and it seemed to help a little, but really I just gritted my way through it knowing it would be over soon. Thanks for the tips though...I will definately make a mental note of those and hopefully not have to use them  I think I need to continue to experiment with my stretching/eating pre-race routine to see what works the best and hopefully that will eliminate the side stitches all together! David |
| 2011-05-03 1:07 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Quick question for everyone... has anyone done run training in the pool (i.e. water running)? I picked up this DVD about it since I am hobbled a bit with my ankle and knee I thought I may give it a try and was just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it. Thanks! |
| 2011-05-03 1:29 PM in reply to: #3480028 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED astorm65 - 2011-05-03 11:07 AM Quick question for everyone... has anyone done run training in the pool (i.e. water running)? I picked up this DVD about it since I am hobbled a bit with my ankle and knee I thought I may give it a try and was just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it. Thanks! I haven't trained that way yet but I've heard great things about it. People have been able to stay in running shape while rehabbing. Let us know how it goes. I'm really interested. |
| 2011-05-03 6:21 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Question on entering pool time. I went to the pool this evening and I did 100yd warm up - 150yds- 1min rest-150yds-1min rest-500yds-1.5min rest-250yds. Total swim time 26:18min, but I was in the pool for a total of 30:02min. Do I enter just the total swim time or total pool time which is the rest and swim. Went to the DR and Im schdl for an MRI on thurs to make sure there is no fracture especially on some side that get more frition.. Really dont understand when it comes to dr talk, but should have a better idea on fri when I get the results. |
| 2011-05-03 7:48 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I just enter total time and then the separate splits in the comments section unless I spent an unusual amount of time not swimming-goofing around |
| 2011-05-03 8:45 PM in reply to: #3479133 |
Elite 3067 Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hi Steve - Not sure what was going on with my leg. It sort of started in the front or what seemed like that (area of hip flexor) then quickly hit the back area...maybe it was ichial tuberosity (sp) or could be I over strained my hammy playing kickball the day before... It's still a bit sore but not stopping me. I think in general I need to stretch more. I've noticed my toes don't 'point' as well and when I do while swimming, I sometimes get a cramp in my foot or calf. (I sound pretty decrepit don't I ha ha!) But I did run today and kept it short in time and strides, then taught a bike class tonight. Oddly, my shoulder has been giving me issue (is there a pattern going on here?!? This week I'm keeping it easy and I think by week end, I'll feel like my regular self. |
| 2011-05-03 9:34 PM in reply to: #3479733 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I'm playing computer tug-of-war with Lynn, again, and again I am losing. So, I'm here for just a few quick responses. |
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