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2012-08-27 8:07 AM
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trigal38 - 2012-08-27 7:48 AM 

The price seems really cheap. My only concern is the listing is vague or maybe I'm missing something. I don't even see where it says the size of the bike just the "smaller" wheels which I would assume are 650s. 

I would want to know how many miles are on the bike, has it ever been in an accident, is the seller selling the bike with the computer and pedals, what year is it, where was it purchased from? I would also want to see close up photos of the components and photos of any scratches.

Just be really cautious purchasing from craigslist as I've read more than one thread about stolen bikes being listed on craigslist. And please do not meet the seller for anything by yourself!

It is a pretty bike!

Right, when I see a nice bike and it seems on the "cheap" side and it's very vague, it almost has me wondering if it is a stolen bike or something.  I mean, the basic info wasn't even there.  There was another posting a few days ago that really didn't seem right to me.  But with this one, my initial feeling is that it's someone who in a (relatively) spur of a moment decided he wanted to get a TT bike... and now he no longer wants it and is trying to get rid of it.

I have actually bought a couple of bikes, and then re-sold them (I didn't make a profit off of them, it was more like I thought I wanted them, then just decided I didn't want them so I was trying to get rid of them- mostly it wasn't worth the money to me at the time)... in which case it would be basically the same thing, I knew little about the bike I was selling, similar to (seemingly) this guy...

I've emailed him a couple of times, the first was asking for size of bike.  Then I asked model and year and he said he'll get back to me as he's not sure (I'm assuming he's at work now), but that he had gotten it fit and then bought it. (I'll ask where he bought it.) Also he has included all his business info in his (automatic?) signature which leads me to believe he's legit...

He says he's 5'8"... in which case if he truly did get fitted, me being 5'3" seems like a big discrepancy...



2012-08-27 8:17 AM
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Karl be safe with hurricane passing through your area and good know you are not in the direct path of it.

Samantha I agree with Dina be careful and try and get as much info as you can if you decide to pull the trigger on it. It may be legit but then again you never know.

Thanks to all who supported my friend Bobby (Dream Chaser) yesterday at IMLOU. I heard from him this morning and he was having a great race until about mile 7 on the run and his stomach just shut down on him. He basically had to gut it out the rest of the way so that explains his time. I knew something was not right. In any case he is one tough SOB and he really earned it yesterday.

2012-08-27 9:07 AM
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Jo63 - 2012-08-26 12:38 PM ...I also want to say THANK YOU to Jeff for the saddle recommendation I rode on the Adamo with no issues so this was huge...

Boy am I glad to hear that!  Now you may love the Adamo and want to just go ahead and use that for your race, but after the race consider testing the other 2 saddles also just in case one of them is better.

I think it's most likely that the design of the Adamo gives you the maximum relief from your previous issue, but many people have a problem with it being wide enough that it hurts the inner thigh muscles/tendons.  If that were a problem, that's where the V-flow saddles could benefit you.

But the Adamo I recommended for you (the prologue was it?) I recommended specifically because it's got a narrower nose than the regular design seat and I thought that might be important.

Hey, about those hills.  There's no such thing as a hill that's too big or too long.  Just a bike that doesn't have the right gearing.  If the hills on that course are a struggle, consider installing a different cassette for the race.  What gearing do you have?

 

2012-08-27 9:13 AM
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Happy Monday Junkies! Just wanted to check in to see what all the buzz was this weekend. Congrats to the friends you were tracking that crossed the finish line at IMLOU.

WARREN - A huge round of applause goes to you for completing your HIM in an awesome time and completing the bike portion on a crippled machine. What a great story! I've never read about that happening to someone. I love how you made due with what you had and patched it up so you could continue. What a great memory to cross the finish line with Zack! I love the picture of you two on FB and the joy it shows of father and son. I'm so happy for you and will look for your race report to get the sense of your mental mindset throughout the day. In the meantime, I'm giving you a standing ovation. Oh - and thank you so much for your offer to the Junkies to visit you if we qualify Boston or to stay at your cottage. I remember seeing the pictures of it and it looks wonderfully tranquil and relaxing there. I may just have to find an excuse to make a trip to that part of the country.

I'll get a RR up when the results are listed but give you a quick summary here. I won't say anything about Dirk and Matt's races but I will say that it was an incredibly fun experience to race with them there. They both brought tears to my eyes at different times yesterday. Huge thank you to Matt for going out on the bike course the night before and writing Asphalt Junkie encouraging sayings on the road at two crucial places. They gave me such inspiration and I felt like a superstar that someone took the time to encourage ME. Thank you, thank you, Matt. It was so nice meeting Sara and your kids. And Dirk, knowing I was struggling to finish stayed nearly two hours to help me run the last quarter mile to the finish line. I crossed and cried like a baby feeling so blessed that Lisa had been out on the course taking pictues of us and Dirk had gone out of his way to see me "home". Thank you, thank you, Dirk (and Lisa).

Also, thank you to Tony. Your name was the first thing that came to my mind during the race when I fell on the bike rounding a corner on the second lap. I visuallized your road rash and how you got up and finished. You were my inspiration to do the same. Thank you.

I finished. It was ugly but I finished. I'll be embarrassed to post my results, especially the "run" which was anything but a run. No matter, I was blessed and my heart is full to have the experience with friends.

JoAnne - So glad you got a chance to ride the course and how sweet of your husband to be a traveling aid station. I'm so glad Jeff was able to help you with a saddle. I can only imagine how excited you're getting to get to the start line and then cross it being called an IRONMAN!

Karl - I laughed at the naked race your wife found. That's just too funny. I wouldn't want to participate nor spectate at a race like that.

Have a great week everyone!
2012-08-27 9:22 AM
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michgirlsk - 2012-08-26 7:55 PM

Help!  I was browsing craigslist for bikes.  Is this a good deal?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/bik/3230902671.html

I know fit is everything (blah blah Tongue out).  The bike is 50cm, and I know one shouldn't entirely depend on a sizing chart, but according to Felt's chart, my height is at the low end for 50cm.  (Meaning, it is in the range, albeit barely.)

I was thinking that IF I were to buy a bike, I would like a road bike, if a good deal comes along... which this is not a road bike, but it does seem like a good deal, so I feel like I should entertain it?  (I have some shoulder issue which I don't think would like me spending lots of time in aero.)

Advice please!! Basically, is this a good deal?  Keep in mind I know little about bikes...

That looks like a 2006 model S22.  The MSRP was $2599.  A 50cm with 650c wheels may be a great fit for a woman your size.  Although you could easily find a 700c bike to fit on.  I don't think that there is any innate disadvantage to 650c, it's just that it's popularity is waning so tire and tube options in that size bike are more limited.

It comes with a dura-ace mix of parts which is good.  It can also be converted in to a road bike if you would like to change the handlebars and brake levers.

But I don't think it's a deal too good to pass up.  Especially if you were planning on a road bike (which I think is very wise).

 

2012-08-27 9:32 AM
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DirkP - 2012-08-23 10:05 PM

FUN SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I agree with you.  The weather has been great for the past week or so and training has been much easier due to the lack of heat.  As a matter of fact, the past 2 Saturday morning rides the temps have been in the mid to low 50's at the beginning of the ride and last Sunday my run was in the mid 50's when I began.  I really only brought it up to attempt to give myself a question mark in my mind and maybe some kind of psychological advantage but thanks for ruining it for me!

I also figured the HR monitor wasn't getting good conduction either.  I noticed last winter that I had to splash a little bit of water on my chest before going out for a run so it would read correctly for the first mile or two and with the temps I listed above I thought that might be the case.

Actually, I was agreeing with you just struggling with the vague term 'peak'.  I suggested that instead of calling it a 'peak' that we just say you are in a lot better shape than you had realized!

 



2012-08-27 9:33 AM
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aww Brenda!  All in the experience, all in the experience!  Don't be embarrassed... I was really devastated during my HIM run from a couple years ago too, and my race time was less than stellar...  Go look at my RR to make yourself feel better.  Actually, revisiting it myself almost makes me want to do another HIM... almost. Laughing But hey the important part is that you finished!!!  And it sounds like you were surrounded by great people too.
2012-08-27 9:36 AM
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Brenda congrats to you for finishing your HIM. It sounds like you had a tough day and I am happy to hear that you were able to fight through it and get to the finish line. It's great to hear about how you, Matt and Dirk were able to support each other out there duriing the race. I'm also glad to hear I was able to provide just a little inspiration for you as well and I'm proud of you for getting back up and finishing that race. I know how it feels to not have things go your way and then having to reset your expectations for the race. I hope you are alright and I am looking forward to your race report. It sounds like these RR's for this past weekend are going to be great to read!
2012-08-27 9:42 AM
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Warren, I experienced the exact same thing with my seat a couple of years ago.  Fortunately it was a sprint and I was about half a mile from T2 when my seat fell off. 

Good job on carrying on. 

2012-08-27 9:45 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 10:22 AM

That looks like a 2006 model S22.  The MSRP was $2599.  A 50cm with 650c wheels may be a great fit for a woman your size.  Although you could easily find a 700c bike to fit on.  I don't think that there is any innate disadvantage to 650c, it's just that it's popularity is waning so tire and tube options in that size bike are more limited.

It comes with a dura-ace mix of parts which is good.  It can also be converted in to a road bike if you would like to change the handlebars and brake levers.

But I don't think it's a deal too good to pass up.  Especially if you were planning on a road bike (which I think is very wise).

Thanks Jeff!  Good to know the year.  I am very impressed that you are able to gather what year and model it is just from the pic! Laughing  But of course I am not surprised.

Out of curiosity, why do you think a road bike is best for me?

So at this point, I am thinking about taking a pass... The number 1 reason being for financial reasons, and then I rationalize it by saying I will likely be doing sprints only next year anyway, so I can deal with my current bike as I have in all of my triathlons... oh and the fit issue...

2012-08-27 10:29 AM
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michgirlsk - 2012-08-27 9:45 AM
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That looks like a 2006 model S22.  The MSRP was $2599.  A 50cm with 650c wheels may be a great fit for a woman your size.  Although you could easily find a 700c bike to fit on.  I don't think that there is any innate disadvantage to 650c, it's just that it's popularity is waning so tire and tube options in that size bike are more limited.

It comes with a dura-ace mix of parts which is good.  It can also be converted in to a road bike if you would like to change the handlebars and brake levers.

But I don't think it's a deal too good to pass up.  Especially if you were planning on a road bike (which I think is very wise).

Thanks Jeff!  Good to know the year.  I am very impressed that you are able to gather what year and model it is just from the pic! Laughing  But of course I am not surprised.

Out of curiosity, why do you think a road bike is best for me?

So at this point, I am thinking about taking a pass... The number 1 reason being for financial reasons, and then I rationalize it by saying I will likely be doing sprints only next year anyway, so I can deal with my current bike as I have in all of my triathlons... oh and the fit issue...

Don't be too impressed, I know where to google to see the various model years pictured.  Each year is distinguished by a different color scheme. 

I believe that all cyclists should have a road bike and do most of their training on a road bike.  Obviously many triathletes do exceptionally well with only a tri bike, but I know that road bikes are more comfortable and better handling/more agile.  So it's also a safety issue.  I think it's relatively dangerous to train on a tri bike because you can't do emergency stops since it takes too long to get out of the aerobars and on to the bullhorns to brake.  And the geometry and weight bias on a tri bike make them less stable to maneuver.  And a person may not spend as much time training as they should because it's less comfortable.

A road bike is more versatile basically.  So if I only had 1 bike it would be a road bike.  But I wouldn't just have one bike! 

But with all that said, if you aren't deterred then maybe a tri bike is for you...as I said, many people have only a tri bike and there's no denying that doing all your training on your race bike leaves you best adapted for the race.

 



2012-08-27 10:44 AM
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I vote Brenda for Junkie of the Week!  Crashing and then enduring to the end!  (don't anyone go crashing on purpose to be a future recipient of this award....won't work!)

 

2012-08-27 10:47 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 11:44 AM

I vote Brenda for Junkie of the Week!  Crashing and then enduring to the end!  (don't anyone go crashing on purpose to be a future recipient of this award....won't work!)

 

Jeff I second that besides speaking from experience it's just too painful to be crashing the bike on purpose.

2012-08-27 10:55 AM
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Question/comment topic.   Especially for you Dirk, since I know you train hard like I do at least on the bike.  I have learned to hold it back on my training runs, but on my bike I find it hard or impossible to ride easy and that's actually working out very well for me.

But this weekend I was really sick.  Came down with something Thursday night that kept me up all night.  I think I might have slept about 1 hr all night.  I had to sit up to keep from choking due to sinus drainage that was obscenely severe.  I was already up at 3:30am so I just got myself together and went to swim practice.  It was a 3200 meter workout of longer intervals and I swam REALLY well, although I did feel some nausea when I pushed too hard (glad it was longer sets).

Then I ran an easy 6 miles and felt OK except kind of weak and achey.  I then went home and spent the day in bed trying to deal with a very sore throat and mild headache.

Saturday my OCD proved to be stronger than my illness and after sleeping until practically noon I went for a bike ride.  I did a shorter than usual ride for a Saturday and did it solo so that I could ride easy.  I had no HR monitor on, but perceived exertion was very low.  Never let myself get winded and rode at what I would guess to be a good ironman bike pace for me. (I was only going 40 miles).  Nonetheless I averaged better than 20mph which is considered very respectable in the hilly area I live in.  I noticed whenever I was easing my way along road sections that were flat that I was typically doing 24 mph. 

This is comparable to rides when I'm pushing it.

So my question is how much difference is there really between our HARD and our EASY paces?  I find that for me, on the bike and in the swim, that it's not too much different.  And I've had some good Xterra performances when I ride the mtn bike in just the way I described riding on Saturday.  (but on the mtn bike it's different due to the technical aspect).

So I'm wondering about all of you, but Dirk in particular since I think he trains like I do and he's always pushing hard in to the pain zone.  I'm wondering if racing easier might not be nearly as fast?  Or allow us to run that much faster after T2 and result in a better overall finish time?

 

2012-08-27 11:39 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 10:32 AM
DirkP - 2012-08-23 10:05 PM

FUN SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I agree with you.  The weather has been great for the past week or so and training has been much easier due to the lack of heat.  As a matter of fact, the past 2 Saturday morning rides the temps have been in the mid to low 50's at the beginning of the ride and last Sunday my run was in the mid 50's when I began.  I really only brought it up to attempt to give myself a question mark in my mind and maybe some kind of psychological advantage but thanks for ruining it for me!

I also figured the HR monitor wasn't getting good conduction either.  I noticed last winter that I had to splash a little bit of water on my chest before going out for a run so it would read correctly for the first mile or two and with the temps I listed above I thought that might be the case.

Actually, I was agreeing with you just struggling with the vague term 'peak'.  I suggested that instead of calling it a 'peak' that we just say you are in a lot better shape than you had realized!

 

Ok.  I am back on board with you then.  Besides I may have proven the both of us right yesterday, in my own sort of way.

2012-08-27 11:43 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 11:44 AM

I vote Brenda for Junkie of the Week!  Crashing and then enduring to the end!  (don't anyone go crashing on purpose to be a future recipient of this award....won't work!)

 

I agree with you Jeff.  Brenda is one of the toughest women I know for sure.  She was really gutting out that race yesterday.  I spoke to her on the run and I could tell she was hurting, both physically and mentally.  I think of her toughness a lot actually.  I have seen her race and know she races hard and then I see her smiling so much all throughout the course via pictures being taken and all I see is mental toughness.

Great job Brenda!  You are an inspriation to me!



2012-08-27 11:56 AM
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DirkP - 2012-08-27 12:43 PM
JeffY - 2012-08-27 11:44 AM

I vote Brenda for Junkie of the Week!  Crashing and then enduring to the end!  (don't anyone go crashing on purpose to be a future recipient of this award....won't work!)

 

I agree with you Jeff.  Brenda is one of the toughest women I know for sure.  She was really gutting out that race yesterday.  I spoke to her on the run and I could tell she was hurting, both physically and mentally.  I think of her toughness a lot actually.  I have seen her race and know she races hard and then I see her smiling so much all throughout the course via pictures being taken and all I see is mental toughness.

Great job Brenda!  You are an inspriation to me!

What a race!  I obviously wasn't wasn't there, but anyone who can impress Dirk in the toughness area gets my vote.

Brenda, you're a rock star for sure.  Gutting out that kind of finish takes a toughness we all can aspire to.

2012-08-27 11:58 AM
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What???  Brenda crashed???
2012-08-27 11:59 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 10:29 AM
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JeffY - 2012-08-27 10:22 AM

That looks like a 2006 model S22.  The MSRP was $2599.  A 50cm with 650c wheels may be a great fit for a woman your size.  Although you could easily find a 700c bike to fit on.  I don't think that there is any innate disadvantage to 650c, it's just that it's popularity is waning so tire and tube options in that size bike are more limited.

It comes with a dura-ace mix of parts which is good.  It can also be converted in to a road bike if you would like to change the handlebars and brake levers.

But I don't think it's a deal too good to pass up.  Especially if you were planning on a road bike (which I think is very wise).

Thanks Jeff!  Good to know the year.  I am very impressed that you are able to gather what year and model it is just from the pic! Laughing  But of course I am not surprised.

Out of curiosity, why do you think a road bike is best for me?

So at this point, I am thinking about taking a pass... The number 1 reason being for financial reasons, and then I rationalize it by saying I will likely be doing sprints only next year anyway, so I can deal with my current bike as I have in all of my triathlons... oh and the fit issue...

Don't be too impressed, I know where to google to see the various model years pictured.  Each year is distinguished by a different color scheme. 

I believe that all cyclists should have a road bike and do most of their training on a road bike.  Obviously many triathletes do exceptionally well with only a tri bike, but I know that road bikes are more comfortable and better handling/more agile.  So it's also a safety issue.  I think it's relatively dangerous to train on a tri bike because you can't do emergency stops since it takes too long to get out of the aerobars and on to the bullhorns to brake.  And the geometry and weight bias on a tri bike make them less stable to maneuver.  And a person may not spend as much time training as they should because it's less comfortable.

A road bike is more versatile basically.  So if I only had 1 bike it would be a road bike.  But I wouldn't just have one bike! 

But with all that said, if you aren't deterred then maybe a tri bike is for you...as I said, many people have only a tri bike and there's no denying that doing all your training on your race bike leaves you best adapted for the race.

 

I think you are making a good decision Samantha. Maybe, if you are really going to start looking at bikes, you can just start browsing your LBS, sit on some, pedal around a little and see how the different bikes feel. I did not get to do that with either of my bikes, I was a little impulsive and I'm not sure my road bike is a great fit for me. I don't love riding it like I hear other people talk about riding their road bikes. I don't know, maybe it's just because it is a lower end road bike and it feels really heavy to me. It is significantly harder for me to climb hills on my road bike than on my tri bike.

I agree with what Jeff is saying about tri vs road bike. I love riding my tri bike and ride almost exclusively during race season but my back could not take riding it ALL year.

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Jeff, I'll try to address your question later this evening.  I need to get my butt in gear and back to work quickly. I am probably going to take tonight off to allow a little recovery before jumping back into some training tomorrow night with a swim.

But I wanted to give a quick race update from yesterday before working on a race report:

Unofficially I finished with a Garmin time of 5:08:03 for the course.  The time will actually be a little bit longer because I had to make a pit stop on the bike course.  This should only have cost me a couple of minutes, tops.  (All times currently are according to Garmin.)

Swim: 32:29

T1: 1:01

Bike: 2:44:02

T2: 1:16

Run: 1:49:14

Overall I went a little faster on the bike than I was planning and just a little bit harder on the RPE, but not very much harder than planned.  The course was much hillier than I was anticipating and therefore some of the added effort was due to that, but I was able to recover well on the downhill’s enough to keep the overall effort in check.  The bike course had some solid climbs for this flat lander.

I'll try to get my RR up this evening for everyone to check out.

2012-08-27 12:01 PM
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Brenda I'm so impressed you completed the race after falling down. I hope you were not in too much pain. I'll be expecting all the details in the race report.

That is so fun that you all could race together and motivate one another. What a great group!



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Dirk congrats on completing your HIM, it looks like you had great race and you weren't even going all out in this race. I would have loved to have seen what you might have done if you were racing all out. I guess we'll see soon enough with that next HIM coming up.
2012-08-27 12:31 PM
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Great job Dirk, and huge kudos to Matt for going out and setting up the junkie inspiration.  This is an incredible group - we really have to do a race together somehow.

 

My Timberman race report is up.

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Jeff I am glad you brought up the question about the bike effort. I am not on either yours or Dirk's level of bike fitness so while I have improved a lot from when I started I definitely can see a difference when I am taking it easy vs. when I am going out at a hard pace or effort. I think I am starting to close the gap a little bit though so I don't have to work as hard to keep my pace up. Now I have been thinking about this lately because I have my HIM coming up in 5 weeks and I was wondering how hard my effort should be for that race on the bike? My thought is to not push as hard on the bike and save as much as I can for the run. So the question is how can I find that pace over the course of the race that will allow me to go as fast as I can without blowing up on my run? I was hoping to try and zone in on this over the next 5 weeks of training to get a better feel for how hard I can push myself. Is there anything else that I can do to try and figure this out?
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Brenda, hope you are ok after your crash...way to go on getting back up and finishing whoohooo for you!!!!!
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