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ALEX -

Yes, water running is a very viable alternative -- as long as it is done properly. many people just get in the water with a waist-belt float and churn their legs, and while that provides some cardio activity, it does nothing to effectiveley simulate running. I had a couple of bouts with water running, in '03 during a tibial hairline fracture and in '06 while I was waiting for my torn menisicus to heal itself. The first time I didn't have an aid, such as a video, to follow, and while I at least knew the mechanics to follow, I'm not sure I did it evn 75% correctly, In '06, though, I had a video to show me the way, and I think I was quite good at it.

The '03 episode was in winter and early spring, so I was pool-bound; it was a good chance to get to know some of the regulars in the molasses-slow lane. The second time was during musch of the summer, and I did it in the St.Lawrence River. Rather than try to stay in one place, mostly, I took the opportunity to slow-mo explore the area in which I had spent xxxx hourds swimming; tta is, I "allowed" myself to move about.

It'll make you feel righteous to do it -- such dedication to training. Seriously!!




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DAVID -

I think stitches are separate from stoamch cramps, meaning that they are a breathing phenomenon as oposed to one that mught reflect eating habits. As I remember it, they are really spasms of the diaphragm, and reflect only breathing concerns. I also remember reading once that they are about the only "injury" that can safely be run through; that is, if you can handle the discomfort, or at least manage it some, at least you will NOT do further damage. I guess there are no clinical cases of people rending and tearing their diaphragm due to a side stitch. Thank god for small mercies, yes?


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GEORGE -

MRI? Thoughts of a fracture? Is that in the pelvis or the femur that the doc is wondering about? PLEASE let me know about that as soon as you get the results! (On a minor plus note, the MRI process is fairly interesting -- might make you feel you are about to get teleported to a Mother Ship docked in the stratosphere!

As for pool times, ultimately it only matters to you -- what you can do to seem consistent in your own record-keeping. Here is my somewhat sketchy protocol:
-- For open water swims, straight time
-- For pool "time trials", or just a straight swim (say 1500m), it's also straight time
-- For anything else in the pool, I click the watch when I start and click when I climb out, and then subtract a perceived amount of time that represents the time I spent changing swim toys or just lollygagging at the end of the lane. Most swims will have me subtract 2 or 3 minutes from the running time, and I've been real slothful or chatty, it could be four....or even five!


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Back tomorrow, gang -- the coup d'etat is happening momentarily!!!






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stevebradley - 2011-05-03 9:47 PM DAVID - I think stitches are separate from stoamch cramps, meaning that they are a breathing phenomenon as oposed to one that mught reflect eating habits. As I remember it, they are really spasms of the diaphragm, and reflect only breathing concerns. I also remember reading once that they are about the only "injury" that can safely be run through; that is, if you can handle the discomfort, or at least manage it some, at least you will NOT do further damage. I guess there are no clinical cases of people rending and tearing their diaphragm due to a side stitch. Thank god for small mercies, yes?

Best way to get rid of them is belly breathing.  From Cool Running: 

 

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We've all had this one, a sudden sharp pain in the side of the upper abdomen at the base of the ribs. The side stitch typically strikes when you're really pushing yourself and fades quickly when you slow down or stop. The stitch is particularly common for new runners still adjusting to the rigors of running.

Likely causes:
The pain is caused by a spasm of the diaphragm, the muscle that controls your breathing. There are a number of possible reasons for this. If your breathing isn't controlled and disciplined, the diaphragm may be complaining. If you are running too soon after eating, your heavy stomach may literally be tugging at the ligaments connected to the diaphragm. Or you may simply be running too fast for your body's breathing machinery to keep up.

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A stitch will usually go away quickly after just slowing down or stopping. If you're in a race or you just don't want to stop, however, you can often make it go away by bringing your breathing into careful control. Concentrate on belly breathing, pushing your belly out when you breathe in and relaxing it as you breathe out. Take deep breaths on the intake, and exhale suddenly, even noisily. To get the diaphragm to contract in rhythm with your steps, try to inhale and exhale as you land on your left foot. Strange but true, this can help prevent spasms by encouraging the diaphragm to bounce along in sync with your stride.

If the pain is just too much and you have to stop, try bending over and raising your knee on the stitch side while pressing your fingers deep into the painful area and tightening your stomach muscles. Or just walk while belly breathing.

 

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astorm65 - 2011-05-01 7:26 AM

The bike leg started very good, my knee and hip weren't too sore to start.  about a mile in a woman was walking her bike back toward the transition area, I stopped to see if I could help her, she had a flat but my pump wouldn't fit her tire so I couldn't help and took off again.  
Transition 2 was a bit more difficult in that my legs were like jell-o after getting off the bike.  AND it was a bit discouraging that I was just finishing the bike and the top people were already finished with the race!!!!

Alex 

You built some great race karma!  I never did very many brick workouts but have discovered the joy of transition runs.  I do at least one per week and sometimes two.  Transition runs are short 15-20 minute runs after a bike workout.  Seems to have helped my running off the bike.

Great race Alex, something to build on.



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triwolfpack - 2011-05-02 9:48 AM Hey Gang! I'm back after a very emotional week and weekend. Unfortunately the end of the week was not good. If you remember, our 9-1/2 YO lab had surgery about a month ago to get rid of a bunch of tumors in her hind leg. Well unfortunatley over the past month they have come back with a vengeance, her breathing became very labored and her eating started to slow down early last week. Thursday evening we took her in to the vet and heard the words we didn't want to hear. It was rough...everything had spread into her lymphnodes and lungs and it was only a matter of time. The last thing I wanted to do was make her suffer just so I could hang on for another week, so we made the difficult decision to put her down Friday morning. Needless to say I'm still heartbroken, but I know we did what was best for her and each day forward heals a little of that pain. On top of that, I had a Sprint Tri this Sunday (at the same course where I sucked it up in the cold wind and rain). Well I am happy to report, I exceeded my expectations and came within seconds of my goal time. I'm pretty sure I felt the ol' girl running along beside me every step of the way and that kept me going. The race report is up if you want to check it out, but here is a rundown of the two races I did at this location and you can see the improvements that were made int he bike and run! Cool Breeze Triathlon (3/27) Huntersville Tri (5/1) Swim: 250yd 5:03 (Pace: 2:01) 500yd 11:11 (Pace: 2:14) Bike: 20k 48:17 (Pace: 15.45) 20k 41:34 (Pace: 17.94) Run: 5K 28:39 (Pace: 9:13) 5k 26:09 (Pace: 8:25) As you can see...I struggled in the swim...not sure why just couldn't get comfortable, but managed to get out with a decent time (for me). Then really picked up the pace on the bike and run! I think the run could have been a lot better, but I had a major side stitch that started as soon as I left transition....I just decided to run through the pain. Not sure why I got that stitch so bad, but I may need to look at my nutritition and hydration again. All in all it was nice to redeem myself and laugh in the face of the course that beat me down over a month ago! David

So sorry to hear about your pooch!  Always a tough decision.  You will meet again at the Rainbow Bridge!

Very nice tri results with great improvements on the bike and run!  Yay you!

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LORI -

Thanks for digging out that info on stitches. I had told David that I didn't think eating had anything to do with it, but the CR article says otherwise. It also mentions the left foot, whereas I seem to remember the right foot (it a good thing I haven't had a stitch in many years!)

I also seem to remember that stitches are mostly on the right side, although that doesn't make sense as the diaphragm sheathes both side equally, i think. Hmmm.



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SARAH -

I have an unfouded theory that some injuries or sorenesses can be like colds -- they travel around the body, wreaking havoc here and there, and then in time depart form a spot entirely different than where they started. It kind of stretches the notion of "referred pain", but so be it. I just know that it actaully seems to work that way for me at times, and hopefully your problems -- leg, shoulder -- are just not much more than low-level "guerilla" attacks!

As for kickball, though, here's a true story. Up until maybe my fourth year in tri, I was very active whenever I had recess duty. that is, I played actively with the kids -- kickball, soccer, tag, anything and everything. And then I started hurting myself - my shoulder from winging a softball, my hammy from punting a football, an Achilles pull from making some ill-advised cutback in soccer. So, in time, I stopped playing with the kids and just reverted to what the other teachers did -- stand around and talk with each other. That wasn't a tenth as much fun......but oh-so-much safer for my body!


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Lori,
Thanks for the side stitch article...very informative (along with Capt Steve's info as well)! I seem to remember grunting alot on my exhale while running (I'm sure the people around thought I was about to collapse in a heap), but now I know that was a good thing to do!

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Hey! I squeezed out my first 2000 meters swimming this morning. This included one 1300 set plus a series of 100's and 50's.

My shoulders are a bit sore and I am sort of tired overall but it was cool to do. It wasn't planned but it seemed ashamed to stop at 1600 when 2k was only 400 meters away.

I am convinced my old pool was not the advertised 25 yards. I know that is shorter than 25 meters but it is probably closer to a 20 yard pool or some one off size.

Taking Sunday off from running or swimming seems to have interfered with my run, very tight and feeling slow both Monday and Tuesday-hopefully I'll shake it off off this week. I have another sprint this weekend



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Av8rTx - 2011-05-04 11:35 AM

Hey! I squeezed out my first 2000 meters swimming this morning. This included one 1300 set plus a series of 100's and 50's.

My shoulders are a bit sore and I am sort of tired overall but it was cool to do. It wasn't planned but it seemed ashamed to stop at 1600 when 2k was only 400 meters away.

I am convinced my old pool was not the advertised 25 yards. I know that is shorter than 25 meters but it is probably closer to a 20 yard pool or some one off size.

Taking Sunday off from running or swimming seems to have interfered with my run, very tight and feeling slow both Monday and Tuesday-hopefully I'll shake it off off this week. I have another sprint this weekend

Congrats on the 2,000 milestone, that's a good accomplishment.

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gdsemiller - 2011-05-03 4:21 PM

Question on entering pool time. I went to the pool this evening and I did 100yd warm up - 150yds- 1min rest-150yds-1min rest-500yds-1.5min rest-250yds.  Total swim time 26:18min, but I was in the pool for a total of 30:02min.  Do I enter just the total swim time or total pool time which is the rest and swim.

Went to the DR and Im schdl for an MRI on thurs to make sure there is no fracture especially on some side that get more frition.. Really dont understand when it comes to dr talk, but should have a better idea on fri when I get the results.

 

I usually just enter the total time.  you were resting for 4 min and thats about 13% of the time in your pool.  I would not worry about it.  but as long as your consistent with your records thats all that matters.

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Hola Mojoers, So I'm back. For good this time. My last final was today and now I'm free until Memorial Day with absolutely nothing to do. I'm sure it'll get boring eventually but after my first afternoon off, I'm feeling pretty awesome. And after Memorial Day, things should be much easier since I won't have practice on top of everything else that I've been doing.

STEVE, to answer your question posed about a month ago, I'm going back to school for premed requirements to eventually go to medical school. And by eventually, I mean I'm applying next summer, which seems so far away but is approaching much quicker than I'm comfortable with. And I'm also working part-time so my life has been pretty crazy lately.

Anywhos, today was pretty glorious. I went for an hour and a half ride and finally decided I NEEDED to clean my chain, since the grinding I hear with every pedal stroke is probably not good for Matilda.

But, after degreasing and brushing and degreasing some more (about 30 minutes worth), my rag is still coming out all black, as if I haven't made any progress. The chain does look a lot better in that it's no longer black, but mostly silver. So I guess that's good, but apparently not good enough.

I tried searching the other posts pertaining to chain cleaning and I followed all the instructions but it's not looking like it's actually any cleaner. Is there any more I can do?

And from what I've briefly read, good luck to ALEX and GEORGE with your injuries! It can be pretty frustrating, but hang in there. It's also been really nice reading the race reports while taking a break from hitting the books. Looks like your seasons are in full swing.

Kasia



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Good Morning everyone, can someone help me put this into English for me.  I found this on the USAT website but not really sure what its telling me to do. For the warm up DPS? and I guess between each 25y you rest 15sec.  Then on the swim part Build, I thought they were talking about speed but they also have a speed workout, and I guess you are to rest 15sec between each 75yd. Then you have 400pull????? and last there is 100free, I guess its saying to swim 100yds freestyle and since its a cooldown you swim slow???  Please help.  Thanks 

400 yard warm up
12 x 25y DPS (distance per stroke), 15-second rest interval

Beginners (repeat this set twice, 1:00 rest between rounds):
10 x 75y (1-5 build; 6, 8, 10 fast; 7, 9 easy) , 15-second rest interval
400 pull

100 free/back cooldown

Total distance:
Beginners: 2700 yards

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DANIEL,

 how is the paleo diet going?  I have been considering giving it a try.  Some of the crossfit folks I was working out with at the beginning of the year are very much into it.

 

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astorm65 - 2011-05-05 11:46 AM

DANIEL,

 how is the paleo diet going?  I have been considering giving it a try.  Some of the crossfit folks I was working out with at the beginning of the year are very much into it.

 

Alex

 

Alex,

 

The diet is going well I think.  I have not been strict about it, mostly because I am not in the situation to waste the food that I have already purchased.  I am still eating oatmeal and eating trisket crackers and granola bars and that kind of stuff.  I will be strict when I finish off these foods; also I have been trying to eat at least 3 paleo meals a day and they are actually tasty.

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gdsemiller - 2011-05-05 3:27 AM

Good Morning everyone, can someone help me put this into English for me.  I found this on the USAT website but not really sure what its telling me to do. For the warm up DPS? and I guess between each 25y you rest 15sec.  Then on the swim part Build, I thought they were talking about speed but they also have a speed workout, and I guess you are to rest 15sec between each 75yd. Then you have 400pull????? and last there is 100free, I guess its saying to swim 100yds freestyle and since its a cooldown you swim slow???  Please help.  Thanks 

400 yard warm up
12 x 25y DPS (distance per stroke), 15-second rest interval Yes, :15 rest after each 25

Beginners (repeat this set twice, 1:00 rest between rounds):
10 x 75y (1-5 build; 6, 8, 10 fast; 7, 9 easy) , 15-second rest interval Build is to start slow and get faster each 75, then do the 6th, 8th, and 10th 75s fast and the 7th and 9th easy, take :15 rest after each 75
400 pull  Do a 400 pull after your 10th 75 following :15 rest

If you repeat the 10 X 75, do it immediately (after resting 1:00) after your first completion of the 10 x 75.  The 400 pull will follow the 10 x 75 sets whether you do them once or twice. 

100 free/back cooldown Do either a 100 freestyle or 100 back stroke cool down or do 50 of each

Total distance:
Beginners: 2700 yards

Answers above in blue.  Hopefully this helps!

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astorm65 - 2011-05-05 11:46 AM

DANIEL,

 how is the paleo diet going?  I have been considering giving it a try.  Some of the crossfit folks I was working out with at the beginning of the year are very much into it.

 

Alex

Daniel & Alex,

What is the "Paleo Diet"?

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astorm65 - 2011-05-05 11:46 AM

DANIEL,

 how is the paleo diet going?  I have been considering giving it a try.  Some of the crossfit folks I was working out with at the beginning of the year are very much into it.

 

Alex

Daniel & Alex,

What is the "Paleo Diet"?

Gene

 

The Paleo Diet in a nutshell: The only food you can eat is it must have been around in the Paleolithic (Caveman) era.  There are obvious exceptions to this rule such as pre and post workout meals.

 

I honestly don't follow it exactly but for at least 3 of my 5 meals during the day follow the guidelines.  I fell a bit better than I used to.  I think you should pick up the book: The Paleo Diet for Athletes.  It explains it really well as well as the science and methodology behind the diet.

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LycraCladChamp - 2011-05-05 10:29 PM The Paleo Diet in a nutshell: The only food you can eat is it must have been around in the Paleolithic (Caveman) era.  There are obvious exceptions to this rule such as pre and post workout meals.

What kind of food does that include? I assume mostly vegetarian?

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GANG!

Chaos reigns these days, will today and this evening too -- but I'll be back tonight!


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KASIA -

Welcome back, kid! Yay!

The paleo diet is hardly vegetarian; our very distant relations were all about clubbing ancestral gerbils. Check it out, though -- it's quite unique and appealing. Don't expect South Beach! More later!


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LORI -

You get 1500 Bonus Mojo Points for translated those swim codes for George. Many thanks for filling in for me there, and adding that very useful touch of highlighting your answers in blue. That is a skill that is missing froim my palette!


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GEORGE -

Is no news good news about the MRI? I sure hope so!


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