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Made the shift from standard running shoes to zero drop with a wide toe box this weekend. Was looking at Newton gravitY but ended up going with a pair of Altra Provisions. Working on improving my foot strike. Put 4 miles on them yesterday and 4 more of the 12 i did today. Switched to my old shoes for the last 8 miles today. What a difference. My knees and toes are very happy with the zero drops. Going to keep easing into them this week I think and go full time next week. Rainy and cold here today. Gut check run. Good stuff! Have a great training week team!


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Made the shift from standard running shoes to zero drop with a wide toe box this weekend. Was looking at Newton gravitY but ended up going with a pair of Altra Provisions. Working on improving my foot strike. Put 4 miles on them yesterday and 4 more of the 12 i did today. Switched to my old shoes for the last 8 miles today. What a difference. My knees and toes are very happy with the zero drops. Going to keep easing into them this week I think and go full time next week. Rainy and cold here today. Gut check run. Good stuff! Have a great training week team!
2013-01-13 3:48 PM
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I ran 13.1 training run yesterday in 1:58.  That may not be fast for you but blazing for me.  That is about 5 days after the worst FTP test on the bike of my life.  Then the next time I went downstairs to ride found a flat tire.  I wonder if that affected things.  We are tossing the test either way.  Trying to balance more running earlier in the year with consistent bike improvement and it's not easy.  The long run is on day one of my week and I've been trying to to bike intensity on tired legs.  Modifying the plan.  Full speed ahead. 

 

I had the flu, too.  Lasted 3 weeks.  Didn't miss workouts because it stayed cold-like and in my head.  

2013-01-13 5:25 PM
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Nice run AJ - Have you been running much since Chicago Marathon?  You are one fast dude haha. 6:00 is crazy fast.  One thing you definitely want to focus on is when it gets a little warmer are some brick workouts.  Push it hard on the bike then go right into a run workout to get those legs used to it. 

arock84 - 2013-01-13 2:05 PM

Had a pretty productive run yesterday.  Did a little over 8 miles with a 2 mile threshold run.  Tried to keep it under 6:15 but that didn't quite go to plan.  Recovered well but would like to clip that down to under 6:00 in the next few weeks.  Going from marathon to this shorter distance is a bit of a change.

2013-01-13 5:29 PM
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Dennis - what made you make the change in shoes?  I have been looking at the Newtons for the past year but just can't pull the trigger.  About 3 years ago I had IT Band issues and was fitted for ASIC 2140 (now the 2170) and have had zero issues.  I am afraid by switching to the Newtons that I will have issues again.  Everyone that I know that makes the switch loves them.  I am due for a new pair next month...

LDC - 2013-01-13 2:44 PM Made the shift from standard running shoes to zero drop with a wide toe box this weekend. Was looking at Newton gravitY but ended up going with a pair of Altra Provisions. Working on improving my foot strike. Put 4 miles on them yesterday and 4 more of the 12 i did today. Switched to my old shoes for the last 8 miles today. What a difference. My knees and toes are very happy with the zero drops. Going to keep easing into them this week I think and go full time next week. Rainy and cold here today. Gut check run. Good stuff! Have a great training week team!

2013-01-13 5:30 PM
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Great run Scott! All that hard work is paying off.

IceManScott - 2013-01-13 3:48 PM

I ran 13.1 training run yesterday in 1:58.  That may not be fast for you but blazing for me.  That is about 5 days after the worst FTP test on the bike of my life.  Then the next time I went downstairs to ride found a flat tire.  I wonder if that affected things.  We are tossing the test either way.  Trying to balance more running earlier in the year with consistent bike improvement and it's not easy.  The long run is on day one of my week and I've been trying to to bike intensity on tired legs.  Modifying the plan.  Full speed ahead. 

 

I had the flu, too.  Lasted 3 weeks.  Didn't miss workouts because it stayed cold-like and in my head.  



2013-01-13 5:33 PM
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Got to the pool for first time in a while.  The first 50Y felt awesome then it was all down hill from there.  After 1st 1000 yards I felt like I was on 4000Y.  Struggled through the next 1000 and am now just wiped out.  I can really feel it in my core which is weird.  Anyways it felt good to get back in the water.
2013-01-13 5:36 PM
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tmoran80 - 2013-01-13 5:33 PM Got to the pool for first time in a while.  The first 50Y felt awesome then it was all down hill from there.  After 1st 1000 yards I felt like I was on 4000Y.  Struggled through the next 1000 and am now just wiped out.  I can really feel it in my core which is weird.  Anyways it felt good to get back in the water.

 

I started work with a swim coach a while back.  God, has he made all the difference.  I was swimming too hard, pulling too soon, not swimming with my core.  Fixed me up.  Check out swimsmooth.com.  Great stuff.

2013-01-13 8:01 PM
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tmoran80 - 2013-01-13 5:25 PM

Nice run AJ - Have you been running much since Chicago Marathon?  You are one fast dude haha. 6:00 is crazy fast.  One thing you definitely want to focus on is when it gets a little warmer are some brick workouts.  Push it hard on the bike then go right into a run workout to get those legs used to it. 

 

A little bit.  I was sick of running the last few weeks of training so I needed a bit of a break from doing anything too intense.  But around 10-16 miles/week.  Only 3 days for the most part started to pick it up a few weeks ago. I still have a pretty good base aerobically since I didn't totally destroy my legs this time around.  Changing the training plan I was using to fit what my body could handle running wise was a revelation. 

I'll sit on my bike this week a few times and start working that in for sure.  This week also starts a more focused strength program and swimming and running so we'll see how I feel Saturday/Sunday.  I should be sleeping well at a minimum. 

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Okay this is going to sound like a bizarre question, but do you guys push your hips forward when you run?

Hope those with flu are feeling better!

2013-01-14 7:00 AM
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Iceman, you are the man, still training while having the flu!  Great run.

Gil, I can only dream of running a 6:15 mile.  Also job and you will get you times down to 6:00.  

KC, sorry you had to miss the clinic this weekend, hope you are feeling better.

Jen, that is just AWESOME!

Tim, glad to hear you are back into training and that everything is okay.

 

Rode with a group this weekend, it was a small group with a very relaxed pace.  Was having chain issues and it dropped going down a hill so after the ride I walked it into the bike shop and there was lots of things wrong with the chain, and shifters.  Had to leave the bike to get fixed.  In reality I am glad as that just proves that I wasn't losing my mind as I felt there was something wrong but I couldn't place what it was. Since the road bike was in the shop I got my Tri bike out on Sunday and did a short ride.  First time back on Dario since Louisville and Dario and I still have it.  It felt great to be back on the bike and I was able to stay in aero for most of the ride.



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For the ladies in the group.............Where do you put your heart rate strap?  When I first starting using it I was placing the strap up by the heart and then last year my companies nutrient company told me to wear it right below the sports bra.  Just curious on where you prefer to wear yours.
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krazytallchick - 2013-01-14 8:04 AM For the ladies in the group.............Where do you put your heart rate strap?  When I first starting using it I was placing the strap up by the heart and then last year my companies nutrient company told me to wear it right below the sports bra.  Just curious on where you prefer to wear yours.

I wear my HRM strap right below my sports bra, along my rib cage.  It feels a little bit weird at first but I forget it's there about 10 minutes into my run/bike.

I think that Lululemon has recently come out with a sports bra that actually holds your HRM:

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/clothes-accessories/women-sports-bras/All-Sport-Bra-Heart-Rate-Monitor?cc=0001&sli=1

Sounds like a great concept!  Their sports bras generally do not offer me the support I'd like, but I think it's a cool idea.  Maybe other companies will copy this idea - and sell them for less $$$! 

2013-01-14 7:44 AM
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Good Morning Team.

Just wanted to check in and let everyone know I am still alive. I think I turned the corner last night and may be on the mend from this bug. 3 and a half days in bed - not good. Taking a sick day today which I hardly ever do and I am hoping to rejoin the world tomorrow.

Stay safe and healthy everyone.

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2013-01-14 7:52 AM
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kruzmeister - 2013-01-14 4:17 AM

Okay this is going to sound like a bizarre question, but do you guys push your hips forward when you run?

Hope those with flu are feeling better!

 

I stay pretty vertical.  Try to keep my shoulders slightly forward and my foot falls under my hips.  Use your hips to drive your legs and push off the ground/forward instead of reaching for more of it.  

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My husband thought of this idea and said we needed to invent it.  I will have to tell him that there is already a bra out there and we lost our chance to make millions.  

kpringle - 2013-01-14 8:41 AM

I think that Lululemon has recently come out with a sports bra that actually holds your HRM:

http://shop.lululemon.com/products/clothes-accessories/women-sports-bras/All-Sport-Bra-Heart-Rate-Monitor?cc=0001&sli=1

Sounds like a great concept!  Their sports bras generally do not offer me the support I'd like, but I think it's a cool idea.  Maybe other companies will copy this idea - and sell them for less $$$! 



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kruzmeister - 2013-01-14 5:17 AM

Okay this is going to sound like a bizarre question, but do you guys push your hips forward when you run?

Hope those with flu are feeling better!

I don't think so. I watched several videos on youtube after a search for "good form running" and try to mimic what I saw.

2013-01-14 8:43 AM
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Simone - good advice here from AJ.  If you push your hips too forward then your shoulders automatically go too far back.  You want to have a slight shoulder lean forward but not too much.  

The next question is why are you asking that?  Do you feel like your form needs work?  

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kruzmeister - 2013-01-14 4:17 AM

Okay this is going to sound like a bizarre question, but do you guys push your hips forward when you run?

Hope those with flu are feeling better!

 

I stay pretty vertical.  Try to keep my shoulders slightly forward and my foot falls under my hips.  Use your hips to drive your legs and push off the ground/forward instead of reaching for more of it.  

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Sometimes it is not about who comes up with the idea first but rather who can better execute the idea.

krazytallchick - 2013-01-14 8:16 AM

My husband thought of this idea and said we needed to invent it.  I will have to tell him that there is already a bra out there and we lost our chance to make millions.  

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1:58 is great for me too Ice Man! Good job!
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Good Job Iceman! I would love 1:58 RIGHT NOW. I have been taking it easy with 10 min miles to build up the endurance slowly.

Did 34 miles of the 40 mile loop for IM-WI this weekend. What an eye opener! Talk about hills. BTW, I did them on the Computrainer Real Video course. Those hills kick #$@$#! Has anyone done the IM-WI Real Course Video and then done the actualy course? How does it compare? Is it harder or easier than the actual course?

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Tim,
I did some research on the Newton's and liked what I was reading. So, I found a cool running store close by that carried them and went to try them out. My goal was to improve my foot strike to save my ankles, knees, and hips as I have always been a heel striker. Being 43 I just wantd to stay ahead of the inevitable running gear issues I would be encountering eventually.
So, Newton's jumped out at me for that reason. I went and tried them on and they felt like I was walking on an elevated platform. Too big of a transition for me.
So, I talked to the expert in the store and she recommended Altra's. The zero drop felt a bit strange but the shoes were super comfortable and the wide toe box made my toes happy.
The Newton Gravities were great shoes but I wasn't ready to make that drastic of a move.
Now, three days into running on the zero drop Altra's I am feeling it a bit in my calves and achilles. Not enough to concern me but man are my feet happy.
I would definitely go test drive them before buying. Good luck Tim!
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kruzmeister - 2013-01-14 4:17 AM

Okay this is going to sound like a bizarre question, but do you guys push your hips forward when you run?

Hope those with flu are feeling better!

 

Annnnnnnd 

This is an awesome article:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/11/08/101108fa_fact_kahn?currentPage=1

And this is a really good video in terms of technique break down 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOQpCZgSME

Either way you should be comfortable running not in "pain".  But being mindful of some stuff to make you more bio-mechanically efficient can make junk miles less like garbage since you'll have some more stuff to focus on.  

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Tim - I guess both! LOL!

 

tmoran80 - 2013-01-13 12:14 PM

Gil are you talking about the vasectomy pain or running an Ironman pain haha?

gdelamora - 2013-01-13 11:20 AM

Tim - It's great to feel great again but I think one has to be a little nuts to put themselves through all the pain. Look forward in hearing on how it s going for you.

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Scott - I would LOVE to run a 1:58! My PR for a half was 2:00 and that was "back in the day" at a mostly downhill race! ha!

IceManScott - 2013-01-13 2:48 PM

I ran 13.1 training run yesterday in 1:58.  That may not be fast for you but blazing for me.  That is about 5 days after the worst FTP test on the bike of my life.  Then the next time I went downstairs to ride found a flat tire.  I wonder if that affected things.  We are tossing the test either way.  Trying to balance more running earlier in the year with consistent bike improvement and it's not easy.  The long run is on day one of my week and I've been trying to to bike intensity on tired legs.  Modifying the plan.  Full speed ahead. 

 

I had the flu, too.  Lasted 3 weeks.  Didn't miss workouts because it stayed cold-like and in my head.  

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