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2008-02-15 9:39 AM
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The diet thing is tough. I could not figure out how I exercise more than I have my entire life and not lose but a couple pounds here and there. i thought I was eating so good until someone recommended keeping a food diary. I carried around a little notebook for a week and wrote down everything that went into my mouth including the things I didn't consider like coffee creamer, etc. I was shocked at how much I thought I was eating and how much I really ate. I also measured stuff for a while. I thought 2 tablespoons of peanutbutter was
WAAAAAY more than it really is. So, a couple things that helped me.

As for underwear, I vote comando. the less stuff to mess with, the better. TMI???


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2008-02-15 10:19 AM
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Hey Bunny,
My thought is #1 no cotton absolutely. I wear under armour boxer briefs and they took care of most of the chaffing problem. I also exercise in some sort of nylon or spandex for that specific reason. And when I run, bike or swim it is commando. Underwear bunches up and makes spots for chaffing. If that doesn't work then I would try body glide. I haven't had to use it yet but I hear it is good stuff.
2008-02-15 10:22 AM
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Underwear thing.  I typically don't wear my normal underwear to work out.  I usually put on some gym shorts that have their own lining in them.  Or similarly, bike shorts, tri shorts, and swimsuits don't require underwear either. 

But if you already have a collection of gym shorts that don't have their own lining, you could try commando, but that might be uncomfortable for a few other reasons.  Maybe try either some briefs or a jock.  But I've personally found wearing a jock to be more uncomfortable than going commando. 

Those would be my thoughts.  Others?

2008-02-15 10:35 AM
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Another thought about food.

One thing that I came to find is this.  We're a lot better off eating the stuff Mother Nature made.  The more that Man is involved in the food, the worse it is for us. 

I'm not necessarily advocating for organic.  But as a general corrallary, food from Mother Nature, good.  Food from Man, bad.

Think about it.  We spent how many tens of thousand of years evolving eating food from Mother Nature?  Think we, as a species, became pretty darn efficient with those foods?  And how long has Man been whipping up stuff in the chem lab?  100 years maybe?  Think our bodies have evolved to process that effectively?

 

Just some things to consider. 

2008-02-15 10:40 AM
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BunnyT - 2008-02-15 7:43 AM



For those of you who are a little more experienced running and biking, is there a different style of underwear you prefer to help prevent this sort of thing? Is "Commando" a better option?

Goofy question I realize, but man does that chafe sting!

Bunny


I use compression shorts under my regular shorts (think Andre Agassi, circa. 1988) for running for the very reason (chafing) you mention. Works great and keeps the "boys" secure, unlike commando.
2008-02-15 10:49 AM
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I saw a specialist yesterday re: my back troubles. After 6 weeks of grumbling and moaning, my wifey made the appointment for me. Anyway, turns out I'm a mess. Due to a 20 year old ankle injury and subsequent surgery (I still have 4 pins in my ankle) from a rock climbing accident, my right leg is shorter than the left and quite a bit more pronated (exacerbating the short leg even further). He gave me a lift insert for my shoe and a number of core/back streaching and strengthening exersizes. He also did some pretty wicked and painful rubdown stuff on my right side (with what I am sure is a Chinese torture device), which he said was significantly tighter than my left due to the overcompensation.

Good news is, at least I am (hopefully) working toward a solution now. He is a long time triathlete, so we had some good, sport specific discussions about my situation. I think I am in good hands.

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2008-02-15 12:20 PM
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Andrea...sorry about the name mess up...I did the same thing with Rob. Maybe I'll stick to usernames, but I'll probably mess them up too.
2008-02-15 12:40 PM
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catjammies - 2008-02-15 11:49 AM I saw a specialist yesterday re: my back troubles. After 6 weeks of grumbling and moaning, my wifey made the appointment for me. Anyway, turns out I'm a mess. Due to a 20 year old ankle injury and subsequent surgery (I still have 4 pins in my ankle) from a rock climbing accident, my right leg is shorter than the left and quite a bit more pronated (exacerbating the short leg even further). He gave me a lift insert for my shoe and a number of core/back streaching and strengthening exersizes. He also did some pretty wicked and painful rubdown stuff on my right side (with what I am sure is a Chinese torture device), which he said was significantly tighter than my left due to the overcompensation. Good news is, at least I am (hopefully) working toward a solution now. He is a long time triathlete, so we had some good, sport specific discussions about my situation. I think I am in good hands. David

 

Glad you found someone who you think will help.  That makes a WORLD of difference finding the right person.

It sure makes a lot of sense having back problems if you have a leg length discrepancy.  It will take some time getting adjusted to the heel lift.  Your body will be used in a very different way than its used to.  It took me a good month plus to adjust to my orthotics.  Just be patient.

The body work is always the worst the first time its done.  Successive treatments, while still uncomfortable, are more tolerable.  Thats because you've worked out some of the problem.

Keep us posted! 

2008-02-15 1:33 PM
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Question for you experienced folks.....

Is there any reason I should not wear biking shorts to compete in a duathlon? I understand they would be a problem in a triathlon, but I didn't see a problem with wearing them to run and bike. Let me know.
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2008-02-15 3:59 PM
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colewarren - 2008-02-15 12:33 PM

Question for you experienced folks.....

Is there any reason I should not wear biking shorts to compete in a duathlon? I understand they would be a problem in a triathlon, but I didn't see a problem with wearing them to run and bike. Let me know.
Cole


Wow, must be late on a Friday afternoon. I read through this the first time as "Is there any reason I should not wear a bikini to compete in a duathlon?".........[insert comment about bikini wearing duathletes]

Anyway, to answer the question you actually posted, wear what works. Try it during a brick and see what you think. The best thing to wear is what works for you. Personally, in a short duathlon, I would think the lack of padding on the bike would be less irritating than running w/ bike shorts. ALSO, you could consider tri shorts, which have baby pads and arent the big diaper padding of typical bike shorts, but still do offer a little bit of padding.

I've seen just about everything in the few tri's I have done (including a tuxedo and a bunny suit). I wore jammers for my last tri for all 3 events and it worked fine for me. The bike was only 12 miles, so it wasn't a big deal.

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2008-02-16 6:50 AM
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I agree with Dave.  Bike shorts are fine if you dont mind running in them.  Tri shorts may be your best bet.  They have some padding and are still good for running (and swimming).  Whatever works though!  I did my first Du in gym shorts.


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Ridgelake - 2007-12-28 6:15 AM

  What is it that you want to get out of doing triathlons?

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I joined late so I thought I would answer this one. I would really like to enjoy the sense of accomplishment. It takes hard work to finish and especially finish with a smile. I think there are also a lot of side benefits to the training (fitness, weight loss etc) that I want to enjoy as well. There is also the networking. It is always fun to meet people with a common interest.
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2008-02-16 6:28 PM
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Bunny,
I liked the photo of you and your boys. I hope you don't mind that I borrowed your idea for my picture. The result is quite different, but I am under my kids. We took this right before we left for a trail ride. I got smoked by my "little guy." Oh well, he'll get old one day too.
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I laughed at your picture. It is a sad reminder of how fast our kids grow up.
2008-02-16 9:36 PM
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HI Cole,
I noticed on your training log that you had calories burned for your workout. How do you figure that out? Is there a website? I am curious how much I am burning in my workouts compared to my comsumption etc. Just curious
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2008-02-17 12:14 PM
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Scott,

I wear a heart rate monitor that tells me how many calories I burn (oh, it also tells me what my heart rate is too). I am not sure how accurate it is, but I have found it very helpful.


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I just bought a heart rate monitor but I am still trying to figure the thing out. All this new fangled equipment.
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colewarren - 2008-02-17 10:14 AM

I wear a heart rate monitor that tells me how many calories I burn (oh, it also tells me what my heart rate is too). I am not sure how accurate it is, but I have found it very helpful.


There is also a free website called FitDay that lets you track calories (you input food details and it tells calories, fat, carbs, protein), and it also lets you input activities and it tells how many calories you burned. It's a pretty cool website if you want to track daily calories in and calories spent.

I ran/walked 52 laps today on an indoor track. That was 4 miles. I just about went crazy, which leads me to my questions for you all:

1) What music is your favorite for running?

I have found that my normal tastes are too slow for running (I like classical, mellow Christian, and some alternative stuff). I am trying some harder rock, Chris Daughtry, Christian metal (there really is such a thing), Bob Dylan, the B-52's. I was wondering if you all had any favorite running songs or groups.

2) When you run outside, do you listen to music? If not, what do you think about all that time? (In other words, do you have any tips on how to develop mental toughness/ work through boredom?) The good news is that I'm actually running/walking long enough to get bored!

Have a great week everyone!

Joann

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2008-02-18 8:14 AM
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Cole - Glad you like it! Nice photo!

For me, it helps keep a little bit of a perspective. They serve in some ways as motivation for me
2008-02-18 8:19 AM
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Topic - Ultra-Beginner Swimming!

Hi All,

So today I put in my second day in swimming and with each gasp for air I was reminded how long it's been since I've done any meaningful laps (approximately 20 years to be exact).

I definitely had a "fight through it" workout, but I was wondering if any of you have any tips or pointers for me regarding drills. I spent today working on the side kick drills found in BT, but discovered I was really only able to make it about 20M before I had to resort to side stroke. I did manage to fight through 6 X25M drills (3 on each side), but man was I gassed!

Part of me feels like my breathing wasn't quite right. Another thing I'm going to pick up later this week is fins to help me along. Any other thoughts on this? I know with time (and improved fitness) it'll get easier but man was today tough!

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2008-02-18 8:24 AM
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Hi Joann,

When I run I usually like to listen to a band called "Tool". Clearly there is the matter of personal preference, but their lyrics are very deep and they also happen to be my favorite band. I also find motivation in the style of music.

I do try to listen to music each time I run whenever possible. I also find that I run best when I'm in a zone - that is, thinking deeply about something other than running. Personally, I tend to think about whatever is on the horizon for me; what vehicle I'm going to replace my leased one with, how I'm going to tackle my flooring this coming summer, my kids, strategy stuff at work - whatever is sort of the important thing for me at the time.

Hope this helps,
Jesse


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Jo,

I used to teach aerobics and they made tapes with set tempos just for aerobics classess. I wonder if they make tapes just for runners with good running tempos. I rarely run alone, so I am usually talking while I run. If my boys are running with me, I am usually listening to them talk and laugh. When I used to run by myself in high school, I used the time to pray. I run outside on a greenway or through the neighborhood mostly, so I have things to look at. I am proud of you making 52 laps on an indoor track without going crazy! Good luck finding music. I just realized that I used an old term...tapes....I am sure someone (maybe Nike) has running CDs.

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Hi Joann,
As far as music goes I go for sound tracks of sport movies. Rocky 1-10 (or however many there are), Vision Quest, Footloose (did I date myself with that one?), Scorpions, John Waite, Whitesnake. There os also Casting Crowns, Jeremy Camp, Brandon Heath, Mercy Me, Steven Curtis Chapman and Phillips Craig and Dean have some good stuff as well. I also take snippets of people saying motivational things and put them on my recording so that between songs someone comes on and says something that motivates or inspires. I hope this helps.
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2008-02-18 9:03 AM
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Topic - Ultra Beginning Swimmer,
I have some thoughts on this topic only because this was me in the not so distant past. I'll just share with you what I did because I couldn't swim 100 meters without a long break. Probably the most important thing to do is get a lesson or two. It is tough to break bad habits once started and practiced. Also I would definately leave the watch in the locker room. I used to focus on my time so much that I would use horrible form to go faster. Just think about being totally relaxed and work on technique. I wouldn't even count laps or distance. Just think about breathing stroke and form. The speed and distance will come. I also find that the better my stroke gets the more I enjoy swimming and also the further I can go. SO I hope that helps. From a newbie to a newbie.
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holt1997 - 2008-02-16 9:36 PM

HI Cole,
I noticed on your training log that you had calories burned for your workout. How do you figure that out? Is there a website? I am curious how much I am burning in my workouts compared to my comsumption etc. Just curious
Scott


Hey Scott,

I saw Joanne mention FitDay as a source for caloric expenditure, and I agree. It also calculates your caloric use just being you, and then adds it all up at the end of the day, and gives you a balance. I have used it off and on for a while, and then recently decided I was paying too much attention to this, and should instead just be reasonable in my choices of food and training. That being said, the months that I did use it was really instructive regarding how many calories are burned, and what it means when I eat a half pizza.

Now I am logging my food in this log, and am relying on my "education" in FitDay to behave reasonably.

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