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2011-05-06 6:49 AM
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Lori - Thanks for the guidance on that swim guide. I do have a questions what do they mean by the Distance per Stroke? and what is a pull?

As for the MRI, I went yesterday to have it done but did not talk with the Dr.  I was told his nurse should call me today or Monday, and if I have not heard back from her to call Monday afternoon.  I think its going to be OK.  The MRI was a precaution to make sure some part not really sure was not fractured bcuz if so it would require surgery to put pins in my hip.  Doc thought 98% it was maybe a fracture somewhere else that would take time to heal and I could run but ease into it.  I hope it the 98% one. 



2011-05-06 2:07 PM
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My 110 mile round trip commute and $4 gas have me considering bicycle commuting again, 2x week. Years ago I did this regularly but my commutes then ranged in the 10-14 mile arena and my challenge was lengthening them. I work late enough in the morning to schedule it and would coordinate with my wife for a ride home. I am not interested in getting home around midnight. Not really afraid of night riding-used to do it all the time, just not interested in doing that anymore. This would probably eat into some of my weekday runs but free up a little time on weekends.

Of course fueling my body costs $ too, in my old high mileage days it was very hard to keep enough food around!

Just my musings

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Av8rTx - 2011-05-06 12:07 PM

My 110 mile round trip commute and $4 gas have me considering bicycle commuting again, 2x week. Years ago I did this regularly but my commutes then ranged in the 10-14 mile arena and my challenge was lengthening them. I work late enough in the morning to schedule it and would coordinate with my wife for a ride home. I am not interested in getting home around midnight. Not really afraid of night riding-used to do it all the time, just not interested in doing that anymore. This would probably eat into some of my weekday runs but free up a little time on weekends.

Of course fueling my body costs $ too, in my old high mileage days it was very hard to keep enough food around!

Just my musings

So a 55mi one way trip, wow that's a big ride everyday about 3hrs?  Its not for me but it would be some great bike training.

2011-05-06 2:58 PM
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So a 55mi one way trip, wow that's a big ride everyday about 3hrs?  Its not for me but it would be some great bike training.

I was thinking twice a week. everyday wouldn't work on Wednesdays when I have to go all the way into Dallas then back to Plano and everyday would eliminate any weekday swims. It adds up to about $22 gas at $4/gal per week in savings. (actual price here is about $3.79)

2x a week would allow me to have clothes stashed and some food

2011-05-06 3:09 PM
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2x a week I might consider it. It would be a nice morning workout. Do you have a shower available at work? I have been toying with the idea of commuting myself but I haven't figured out all the ins and outs yet. Its a short ride 5-6 miles each way. I'd have to leave the house maybe 10min earlier not a big deal and the weather is finally cooperating. The problems for me come after work when we go to the gym etc... oh and no shower here but its just me really in the office so not that big a deal just stock clothes on the weekend to change into during the week.
2011-05-06 3:51 PM
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I do not have a shower. In the past I made do the following:

1. shower before leaving. I know it sounds sort of pointless but it takes care of that morning funk

2. arrive early enough to cool off and clean up. I have mastered sink bathes in the past. And leave the area as if nothing happened. It can be done. I keep deoderant in my office and a towel now for lunch time runs, a few more things won't hurt.

3. Baby wipes can help in lieu of or in addition to soap



2011-05-06 3:59 PM
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Event packets have deteriorated in my absence, sign of the times I guess. I just picked up mine for this weekend's sprint...almost the identical collection of advertisement and paper junk from the last several. There is a small bag of "Pirate's Booty" chips and of course a T shirt. In years past it seems like there were more goodies, inexpensive but useful-pens and pencils with someones logo, note pads, maybe a local map, always a water bottle, sometimes sunblock, tissues, tire patch kits, wipes-sometimes a gift card for something good-now it becomes a garbage bag for my truck, even the bag is generic. Oh well

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Good luck in your race this weekend.

 

I've gotten fairly good at the old sink bath too after my lunch time runs. Its not ideal but it does work. I agree with the shower before you leave too, it is just the way to start my day.

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ckallpoints - 2011-05-06 4:10 PM

Good luck in your race this weekend.

 

I've gotten fairly good at the old sink bath too after my lunch time runs. Its not ideal but it does work. I agree with the shower before you leave too, it is just the way to start my day.

I've done that on weekends before a long run, only to come home and do it again-weird but sometimes I cant get motivated till I shower

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ckallpoints - 2011-05-06 4:10 PM

Good luck in your race this weekend.

 

I've gotten fairly good at the old sink bath too after my lunch time runs. Its not ideal but it does work. I agree with the shower before you leave too, it is just the way to start my day.

Ah...to be a guy

We have a staff meeting MOnday and on the docket - 'exercise challenge' being pushed locally. I'm about 18-20 miles from work one way and frankly would love to bike it at least once a week. BUT...I can't see how I'd clean up well enough to function in an office environment. Maybe I'd get away with it now before it heats up but it would take me longer because I'd try to keep my sweating down But the HAIR... it would be totally matted from not only sweat but the helmut! AHHH! LOL

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gdsemiller - 2011-05-06 6:49 AM

Lori - Thanks for the guidance on that swim guide. I do have a questions what do they mean by the Distance per Stroke? and what is a pull?

Distance per stroke simply means to go further with each pull, thus less strokes per 25 yards.  For example, if you counted your strokes for 25 yards and the total was 21, then you would want to focus on increasing the strength of your pull/distance of each pull.  The best way to explain it is to have a sensation of gliding forward more with each stroke.  Just don't get in the habit of gliding too much. 

Pull sets mean zero kicking, just use your arms.  You can either drag your legs or use a pull buoy.  Most pools have pull buoys.  I can post some pictures if you don't know what they are.  The pull buoy is placed just above your knees, in between your legs.

 



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I drove from San Jose via L.A. (to pick up my youngest from college) to Tempe Az yesterday. Today, I'm hanging out at my niece's house and this afternoon we'll go to check in for our race tomorrow. It's going to be a hot one so I've been staying hydrated. I think tomorrow will be in the high 90's but I'm hoping it'll only be 80 by the time I finish. Incentive to go fast I'll check in afterwards and try to get a race report written up. I'm a little nervous for the first race of the season but excited too!

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Av8rTx - 2011-05-06 3:59 PM

Event packets have deteriorated in my absence, sign of the times I guess. I just picked up mine for this weekend's sprint...almost the identical collection of advertisement and paper junk from the last several. There is a small bag of "Pirate's Booty" chips and of course a T shirt. In years past it seems like there were more goodies, inexpensive but useful-pens and pencils with someones logo, note pads, maybe a local map, always a water bottle, sometimes sunblock, tissues, tire patch kits, wipes-sometimes a gift card for something good-now it becomes a garbage bag for my truck, even the bag is generic. Oh well

Have a great race Jeff!

I have found the same thing with goody bags over the years.  Why bother?  Save trees and don't insert all of those pieces of paper in the bag.  The Madison Marathon has a virtual goody bag.  The paper items are on their website and you can print them off if you want them (coupons, race brochures, etc.).

2011-05-06 5:28 PM
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50andgettingfit - 2011-05-06 5:25 PM

I drove from San Jose via L.A. (to pick up my youngest from college) to Tempe Az yesterday. Today, I'm hanging out at my niece's house and this afternoon we'll go to check in for our race tomorrow. It's going to be a hot one so I've been staying hydrated. I think tomorrow will be in the high 90's but I'm hoping it'll only be 80 by the time I finish. Incentive to go fast I'll check in afterwards and try to get a race report written up. I'm a little nervous for the first race of the season but excited too!

Johanne

Have a great race Johanne! 

Is anyone else racing this weekend?

2011-05-06 5:33 PM
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Sarah

I just got a hair cut yesterday so "doing my hair" consists of drying it with a towel. I have to admit Its really nice to be able to do that. I don't envy the trouble you gals go through but I do appreciate it. 

just finished my last run for the week 14.64 miles longest yet. Pool tomorrow for a swim and see if I can make it onto my bike sometime this weekend... time to find the sink...

Have a great weekend everybody.



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Have a great race Johanne!


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Steve,

I need to adjust my plan by a couple weeks. I'm going to do the Pacific Crest Tri in Sun River on June 26. I have 5 weeks left on my plan next week is recovery then the final month. I have 7 weeks until the race. i know poor planning on my part but I wanted to start a plan and figured I might miss some time over the 20 weeks. Well I did kind of miss 1 but... 

My thought is do the recovery week then start the last month but do weeks 1 and 2 twice (they are identical) and then it starts to taper. In other words I have a recovery week then repeat the week I just finished x 4 then taper.

This week was:

Mon - 6.25mi run 81 min

Tues - swim/spin class

Wed - 46min run

Thur - spin class

Fri - 62 min run

Sat - swim + maybe bike

Sun - off maybe bike

                

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GANG!

Another loooong day away -- left at 7a.m., returned home about 45 minutes ago, and soon to bed. And you all played nicely together for the whole day and evening!

Lots to answer to tomorrow, and for now I'll just say:




JOHANNE
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JOHANNE!

Have a great race! It's a full oly for you, and that's a rare full-full, meaning a solid one-mile swim rather than the more common 0.93. I'll be sending lots of mojo your way!




2011-05-07 4:03 AM
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Jeff and Johanne - Good luck with your race today.

Wow, my Aptil totals were pooooo, I guess the leg issue really put me down and stopped me from really training.  This month will be different.  Last month I did 4000yds in the pool, just this week I have already passed that at 4500yds.  I plan to swim atleast 3000+ a week, Bike 80+ and I want to run 15+ (but will need to see what the results on the leg are). 

Lori - Thanks again for helping me understand the swim log.  I thought the pull might have been using the pull bouy so yesterday when I went swimming I used one for 50yds and then tossed it to the side.  It really felt weird, and I now know my body must be dragging in the back because when i used the bouy it flet as if my buttocks was out of the water.  I was like fish tailing down the lane with the bouy..  I didnt knw that pull was not kicking because when I did the remaining 400yds I just did a normal freestyle with little kicking.  I need to find a way to not kick but not use the pull bouy.  I read somewhere where someone just puts a strap around both their ankles to stop them from kicking, I might try that.  Again thanks for helping out.

Well about to head off for a 35-45 mile ride this morning.  Have a great day everyone and again GOOD LUCK JEFF AND JOHANNE.  And as Charlie Sheen would say WINNING. 

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Ok this stinks. The other day my ride got cut short because my headlight went out, so I replaced the batteries with new ones and it came on.  Well I went for my long morning ride and before I can get out of the subdivision, my light goes out again. I dont think it was the batteries, it must be the bulb, but I tried the other day to get to the bulb and the top would not unscrew, hummm.  I guess I will make a trip to my lbs today to either find out how to get to the bulb or get a new one.  I knew I should have gone with a rechargeable one, not.. I could not see spending $100+ vs $30.  Now my ride tomm will have to be twice as long.  I will try and ride this afternoon atleady 20miles, but not sure I can since today is packed with honey do's.  Will see.  I'm up and nothing to do, my gym dont open until 10am on Sat and 1pm on Sunday (I guess since its a college gym they are going to open late on weekends bcuz what college student is going to workout at 5am on weekend, heck they are just now getting to bed).  So I cant go swimming and running is out until Monday, its 4:45am and Im fully awake.  I wonder if the neighbors would mind If I go out and cut the grass, that will leave me then some free time this afternoon to bike.. Ok, I guess I will go watch tv.  Have a great morning everyone.
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GEORGE -

A kind of cardinal rule of training is to let missed workouts go. I say that because you mention that tomorrow your ride will have to be twice as long, and I think you should consider keeping it the same as scheduled. What follows are two lines of reasoning.

Line One would say that all workouts have a purpose, and that whenever they are muddled with, they lose some of their integrity. I think you are following a BT plan, or a plan from somewhere, and if so then remember that that plan included a ride tomorrow of a certain distance for a definite reason. If you add today's missed ride to it, then suddenly it's no longer the ride it was meant to be.

Line Two says that there is room for spontaneity, and that some workouts are done for the love it, or maybe to satisfy some non-raxce goal -- lose weight, reduce cholestrol, impress the neighbors, avoid the honey-do list, whatever. In the spirit of that approach, then, you can ride or lift or swim or run whenever it suits you, because doing that sort of thing is far more important than undergoing precision training for a particular race. If that's the case, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE!!

Come to think of it, some of your recent epic rides cannot possibly have been part of ANY paln, not unless you are secretely preparing for a half-iron ofr full iron! So, maybe I'm mistaken and you're not on any plan at all. Yes? No?

Plans are NOT the end-all and be-all. They work reallt well for higher performance, and for many people they servea s a form of accounatbility, but athletes can become slaves to their plans and get all stressed about not meeting every workout to the letter and then end up enjoying this whole business far less than they should. For many people, what works is just building their fitness however it suits them and tickles their fancy, and then taking that improved levek of fitness into whatever race is next on the calendar.

SO! If you do the extra-long ride tomorrow, have a blast with it!




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GEORGE again -

I'm trying to figure out the message you got from the doc and the nurse. I can understand the pins part and why that is not at all desirable, but what eludes me is the comments on the fracture -- any fracture. If he thinks it's 98% that there's a fracture, then where is he looking? The most likely spot for a fracture (and what you have would almost certainly be a stress fracture, I think) in that area would be either pelvis or femur. The former is nasty-painful, the latter about 400 times more so. Both would require mucho time from running, and probably cycling as well. I guess the term "ease into it" is relative, but i thjink for both of those babies it's about two months minimum with zero running.

My tibila stress fracture in '00 was worth about 12 weeks no running, partly because I ran on it for about three weeks as it was evolving. IN '03 I clobbered (long, dumb story...) the exact same spot and so it was then really a hairline fracture, but seeing as how the symptoms were the same and I cought it almost immediately, that recovery was much quicker -- about 8 weeks.

Obviously, neither of us want a fracture for you, and seeing as how some parts of what the doc said don't make sense to me, I hope there was some glitch in the communications along the way. I am really curious to see what is said to you at the next meeting!

I'm assuming whatever is bothering you during your runs is not a problem when you swim or bike, yes?





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Race report coming later but for now..............I finished!!! Came in at 3:38:38 by my watch. Still waiting for official results. Last years Oly was 4:01:52 so I am really happy with my day. Should top out at 100 degrees here in Tempe. I'm drinking, drinking, drinking and later I'll be drinking some more

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OH!

I did my first race of the season this morning, a nearby duathlon (5km - 38.4km - 5km). Due to my recent injury concerns (groin, hip, hamstrings -- all left side), this was a game-day decision -- as in 5:30 a.m this morning. I will wriet a fuller report in a day or two, but will just give a quick overview. I expect final results wil be up later today, and what's here is from the preliminary incomplete results that were there when I left.

Good news -- the two runs. The first was 20:48, the second was 21:16. I thought the course might've been measure a bit short, and even drove it on the way home to check for myslef. Happily, it is virtually a "clean" 5km, and if not then maybe 4.95km. So, I am thrilled to be able to knock off 5kms at that pace so early in the season. Even adding on about 15-20s to compensate for a small "shortfall" of distance still leaves me at times that are satisfying. More pleasing, maybe, is that both runs were mostly ache-free ---- as opposed to:

The bike, which was the bad news. The groin issue set everything off, with the effect that my power was quite reduced, especially on the climbs. The ride ended up being 1:11:55, for about a 19.4mph, but the course is one that I could usually count on for at least 20.5mph. The last two loops (of four) were especially bothersome, and I was quite worried as to how the second run would progress -- or if it would even happen!

I see my sports doc Monday morning, and I hope he can help with this. As it stands now, i am in for a long and discouraging bike season! I can see a season of sprints in my schedule -- and that's if what ails me doesn't get progressivley worse.

Overall, I am marginally pleased with how it went. This has been a bad couple of weeks for training, and this week saw no rides since last Saturday, and only two runs. I figured my fitness was down some, especially on the bike -- and in that respect I was correct. I did a R-B-R (5km - 20km - 3.5km) brick last Saturday in times of 22:53, 55:40, and 16:00, and that was promising -- but I knew that on the hilly course of today, plus the increased distance today, that the leg would be a bigger problem. And the hamstring strain from Tuesday's Yoga classes sure didn't help, although that was not much of a problem today - nothing on the run, a minor contributor to loss-of-power on the bike. Sigh.

Good transitions -- 53 seconds for each.

More details later!







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JOHANNE -

That's a MAMMOTH time improvement over last year, and in probably much more demanding conditions, too. Fantastic!

It sounds like you are taking care of your needs, and that's good. Above all, bask in the glory of staggeringly impressive leap betterwards in your time at that race!









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