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Well this is why I do not feel safe cycling in Mobile.  http://mobile.al.com/advmobile/pm_29193/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=vCT6cwwj

Mobile held a Duathlon on this past Sat afternoon and a friend that I met with the triathlon club here is Mobile was hit by a car. This was in a controlled area.  There were 50 police and over 100 volunteers helping with the race and it still happened. The folks down here that drive have no clue what they are doing behind the wheel.

Last night was not a good night for sleep.  Me and the family were heading home from my inlaws when in the opposite lane heading our way was a car and it lost control.  Im thankful that it went right and not left because we would have been hit.  They were going really fast and we were heading about 45mph.  The turnout was not good. They lost control of their car and went into the woods where the car snapped a pine tree and still manage to roll about 40 yards past the pine tree. The woods were pretty thick but they were going so fast that no tree was stopping it.  I jumped out of my truck and so did several other drivers around.  The sad part was the driver was 16 and the passenger about the same age.  We thought both had passed away at first, but the driver came through, her friend was not that lucky.  They think their might have been a third passenger that got thrown from the car, but no one could find another body.  Man I'm still shaken from this, I could have possibly lost my life or my families life.  Its sad knowing a young girl was killed and also knowing that the driver will always live with that.  I have seen accidents before but nothing like this, that car was so crushed that you could not tell what kind it was. The driver was pinned down on the floor and they had to cut her out. Please Please pray for the families of those kids and also for the driver.  I tried to find some news on it this morning and nothing has been posted at this time, I just hope the driver makes it.  Yall have a great day and please be safe out there.



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2011-05-16 10:43 AM
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Jeff,

Congratulations on the hardware.

I would say you are definitely ready for an Oly.

2011-05-16 12:02 PM
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Hi everyone!

I'm back from a long but really fun, busy 10 days in Arizona. Started with my first Oly of the season and ended with my daughters graduation from ASU! We had a great time and I'm so proud of her

I managed to get most of my workouts in. Since my plan doesn't account for the Oly I did last weekend, I just did everything a little shorter to give myself a little rest. I got some good running in the heat practice too. I'm glad to be home though!

It looks like everyone is doing well and working hard here. 

After maintaining my weight for several months, I decided to buckle down and work on losing a few pounds again. My youngest daughter is going to join me so we can encourage each other. She's down in L.A. and we're going to track our calories so we're more aware of how much we're putting into our mouths! We both weighed in this morning and gave each other our passwords to the website we're going to use to track our food and weight. Your job, Mojistos, is to ask me now and then how it's going and force me to report

On another note, we are down to one old dog. He has a tumor growing alongside his back, kind of near his kidneys. We've chosen not to treat it. He's a big dog and he's 11 1/2 and we feel he's not a surgical candidate. Our last dog strangely got one in the same spot which led him to doggie heaven. He was an older guy too. So after not seeing Buddy for 10 days, I'm noticing some changes. He's happy but I'm seeing some weakness in his back end. He has a great life and gets to go with me to the barn and to run errands. He's my ego boost because he just stares at me with hearts in his eyes  

I'll try to post a picture of the Buddy dog

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2011-05-16 12:13 PM
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Buddy is the big dog

Plus, I think I finally figured out how to resize pictures. Watch out!

2011-05-16 12:14 PM
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Buddy is the big dog The little cutie is one of his barn girlfriends.

Plus, I think I finally figured out how to resize pictures. Watch out!

2011-05-16 12:56 PM
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Johanne - I love your dogs and really sorry to hear about the tumor.  So I guess I will be the 1st to ask, Hows it Going? What website are you using to track calories? is it kinda easy?  I would love to track mine, but I will need to read up on it and figure out how to do math.  I make most of my meals, dont eat out much.  I guess when I cook I need to add all the calories of the ingredents and then divide by the % I think I ate??



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gdsemiller - 2011-05-16 10:56 AM

Johanne - I love your dogs and really sorry to hear about the tumor.  So I guess I will be the 1st to ask, Hows it Going? What website are you using to track calories? is it kinda easy?  I would love to track mine, but I will need to read up on it and figure out how to do math.  I make most of my meals, dont eat out much.  I guess when I cook I need to add all the calories of the ingredents and then divide by the % I think I ate??

George,

We're using fitday.com. There are several out there but this one looked easy enough to use. The most time consuming part will be the first week or so. You have to search for foods to enter. Afterwards, you can just use 'recent foods' if you are having a repeat breakfast, etc.

So far, so good! When I've tracked calories in the past (the only way I've been successful at losing weight) it really helps to own up to what you're eating. If I'm cooking, then yes, if the recipe doesn't have a calorie count per serving then I add the calories of the ingredients and divide by # of servings. 

If I'm really organized, I'll plan my whole day out the evening before. Then there is less sneaking in of extra foods

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Great thanks Johanne.

Does anyone know if the calorie counter on workouts is pretty accurate on BT? I would like to do what Johanne is doing by counting my calories. I have lost some where between 13-17 pounds in the last 4 months and I feel it should be more. I guess Im putting in more calories then working off.  I have been watching what I eat but there must be a lot of calories in the healthy foods that I have been eating.

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Ok nutrition folks I need your input.  I went and signed up for the calorie counter that Johanne spoke about.  Oh my gosh, If my thinking is correct I need to reduce what I eat our train really hard daily.  My thinking is if I eat 1500 calories a day, then I want to do enough training to burn atleast the same amount????? Today it shows me eating 1038 Calories so far and I have not eaten dinner.  I ate 1 banana (121 calories) with 2 tablespoons of reduced fat peanut butter (187), then snack I had about 2oz of dry rosted peanuts (320) then lunch I had a 6 inch subway roast chicken sandwich with just veggies and oil and vinegar, no cheese or mayo (320) and for afternoon snack I had special k bar (90) for a toal of 1038 today.  I plan to eat the other 6inch tonight so that will bring me to 1358 calories today.  I looked at one of my bike logs where I biked 20.1 miles at 16 mph for 1hr 14 min and it says I only burned 805 calories. Either Im doing this calculating wrong or I need to bike 20 miles and run like 4 miles a or bike 20 miles and swim 1 mile each day if I eat the above foods.  Please tell me Im doing this wrong, that we should consume way more then what we burn. If not I will never lose weight. 
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gdsemiller - 2011-05-16 5:58 PM Ok nutrition folks I need your input.  I went and signed up for the calorie counter that Johanne spoke about.  Oh my gosh, If my thinking is correct I need to reduce what I eat our train really hard daily.  My thinking is if I eat 1500 calories a day, then I want to do enough training to burn atleast the same amount????? Today it shows me eating 1038 Calories so far and I have not eaten dinner.  I ate 1 banana (121 calories) with 2 tablespoons of reduced fat peanut butter (187), then snack I had about 2oz of dry rosted peanuts (320) then lunch I had a 6 inch subway roast chicken sandwich with just veggies and oil and vinegar, no cheese or mayo (320) and for afternoon snack I had special k bar (90) for a toal of 1038 today.  I plan to eat the other 6inch tonight so that will bring me to 1358 calories today.  I looked at one of my bike logs where I biked 20.1 miles at 16 mph for 1hr 14 min and it says I only burned 805 calories. Either Im doing this calculating wrong or I need to bike 20 miles and run like 4 miles a or bike 20 miles and swim 1 mile each day if I eat the above foods.  Please tell me Im doing this wrong, that we should consume way more then what we burn. If not I will never lose weight. 

You also need to consider the calories your body needs just to function.  You resting metabolic rate.  Their is away to calculate this, I will look for the website.  Not eating enough is just as bad as eating too much.  Your body will go into starvation mode and store everything you eat.  I am trying to stay with 1400-1500 cal per day which is bordering on not enough.  I have a dietitian and she asked me to add a 200 cal shake in before my workout, my goal is to lose 1-2 lbs per week, not a lot but keeping it nice and steady.  I am 5'8'' and 193lbs right now.  

Don't know if that helps...

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2011-05-16 5:10 PM
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Here is one of the websites I have used

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/tutorial_BMR.php



2011-05-16 5:15 PM
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George look up a BMR (basal metabolic rate) calculator. That will give you an idea of the amount of calories required to just exist. You then add any activity to that to get your total calorie requirements. I think the calculators use age height & weight.
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George,

I'm using fitday as a place to log on that worked with my daughter too. I have an app for my iPhone that can track calories but she doesn't have one so fit day will work. I agree with Alex and Craig that you have have to consider in factors such as age, male/female, activity level. I think the exact # of calories you need to take in isn't always an exact science! Research and play around with it. I'm really trying to think about the choices I'm making rather then just the calorie count. I liked the link Alex listed. 

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I also agree about having to eat enough calories or your body gets ticked off and is stingy with the weight loss All of us have a base # of calories that we need to survive. You need to subtract 3500 cal/week to lose 1 lb. So lets say you need 2500 cal a day to maintain. 2500 x 7=17,500/week. Then you would have to subtract 3500 from that #. So that would be 14,000/week or 2000/day to lose 1 lb a week. Then you factor in your activity which eats up your calories too. Some people use the calories burned and add to their daily intake and some people cut it my half. Does any of that make sense? Fitday says I should have 1953 cal/day with my level of activity. That should have me losing 2 lbs/week. I'll let you know!
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CRAIG (and others talking about calories) --

I have fallen off the wagon on this, still not chiming in with my thoughts. BUT, that is maybe good, because what others are telling you is far more valuable than my seat-of-the-pants approach. So, I will use that as an excuse to be awol on this topic for a while longer, and see how it all plays out!



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GEORGE -

I agree with what Jeff says about tires....but will add that I usually err on the side of caution. That is, I deflate my tires going to and from a race in hot weather. That's not a full deflation, but just a bit -- enough to get them hinting at softness. I once had one explode in the back of my car, and I thought I was maybe a victim of a drive-by shooting!

Most explosions will be the result of over-inflating somewhere along the way, or some foreign object that has finally wormed its way through the rubber and into the tube. It is unsettling to hear one go in the transition area, and thensee people hustling to that general area to check if it was their tire that blew! I had one blow at Columbia Tri in '05, and it happened while I was on the swim; didn't know it until I got back to T1.

I always inflate race morning, never the night before. Or is I do do it the night before....I do it again about seven hours later!




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JEFF -

Really nice workout, and yes -- I think you are ready for an olympic. Or, rather, well on the way to being ready for K.C.

Swim thoughts? I can't explain the stomach pain, and maybe it's just an anomaly. Give time for a few more longer swims, and if it keeps happening then it is worth figuring out. You mention air, which might be, but how about water? Any sense that you took in more water than in one of your pool swims? Another thing to consider is the water quelity, and for some people in some water it doesn't take much for the microfauna to have negative effects. I have always been fortunate in avoiding serious stomach issues, even in places that are "posted" for suspected e-coli outbreaks, but that stuff can vary wildly from person to person.

Abnother swim thought is to do all your wetsuit adjustments before you get any part of the suit wet, as wetness just increases the difficulty many-fold. With this in mind, if you are doing a race in a downpour, make every effort in the world to get into the wetsuit as quick as possible and with as dry a body as possible. I've had many practice swims where I'm okay getting on my DeSoto bottoms....but by the time I get around to the top it is a real wrestling match. The rams up high enough in tose acses? It never quite works!

Getting back to your gut on the bike, you might want to try going without any fluids for the first ten minutes or so. We all take in a good amount of water during the swim, so our need for further fluids right after the swim is almost a Pavlovian response to just cycling. Do you remember what you put into you once on the bike?

My final thought on the gut is somehting along the lines of a side stitch - ever have one? It could be that your breathing was off enough form the swim to get your diaphragm spasming, which is what happens with a stitch. Any chance that could be the root of the problem?

You're right about how to restrat in a wetsuit -- it doesn't take much. I just kind of "lean" forward, rol and extend one arm, and glide aaway. it's a couple of easy start-up strokes, and then I'm back in gear.

Good run, given the stomach issues persisting on it. And while you're a bit agiatated that that happened, it is almost a good thing to experience problems like this so that at some point in a race, if they recur, you won't be completely thrown off your game. I know that's kind of "cold comfort".....but I really believe it is best to be metally prepared for all these snafus.

When is your next open-water-swim-bike brick?

You're systematically doing the work to be resdy for K.C. Have faith in the plan you have followed so well, and don't let those stomach problems mess with your head (never mind your gut! ).



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KC is next Sunday-22nd! A few days at The Farm in Kansas then to KC. I have had a side stitch and that was not it, definitely stomach bloating and pain. I may have swallowed some water but I dont think much. I'm not sure of the water quality now but in the 30 years I have played in this lake I don't remember that experience (no real swimming though). I took a few hits of Gatorade on the bike and I did nave a largish brunch before and that could be a factor.

Today I have some lower back pain that I experienced on other time after my 2000 meter swim. A position issue, arching my back to keep my legs up..so I need to focus on my head down etc. I hate fussing with swim details so late in the game but so it goes.

I guess I am as ready as I can get! I am comfortable with the distances on the run and bike, and have some confidence about the swim..I just hope the weather cooperates.

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JOHANNE -

Okay, it's a deal - I will try to remember to ask you about your weightloss progress. Having said that, though, asking people about their weight is never something I'm very comfortable with. I have no qualms about asking people their age or divulging mine, and I'm never bugged discussing my own weight. But I guess I've seen enough people who are prickly about their weight to shy away from that topic. (Although lots of people are prickly about their age....and that doesn't stop me from discussing it! )

Just on the topic of weight, though.....
As my body has rebelled over the past five weeks and my run and bike volumes are way down, I have put a huge amount of time into Yoag. This is to the tune of about 6-8 classses a week, each about 75-80 minutes of actaul Yoga (taht is, not counting meditation time, or time in Corpse Pose at the end). NONE of the Yoga I'm doing is the hot and heavy stuff, such as Ashtanga or Bikram....and I have actually lost weight during this time. I am now close to the weight I am at during my normal mid- to late-season, and I think i can say that Yoga is an effective way to lose weight. Of course, most people cannot do it as often as I do (I have a senior's rate unlimited pass for $90/month), but then again some people are doing the more energetic or hot-room classes, so that has to count for a lot, too.

I am sorry to hear about Buddy - what a grizzled but noble countenance he has. He certainly looks like he is watching out for the safety of his girlfriend there!

Glad you're back -- and I hope the Sharks get their own game back real soon. (They sure looked better in their game one than my Bruins did in their dismal opener against Tampa! )


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stevebradley - 2011-05-16 5:39 PM JOHANNE - Okay, it's a deal - I will try to remember to ask you about your weightloss progress. Having said that, though, asking people about their weight is never something I'm very comfortable with. I have no qualms about asking people their age or divulging mine, and I'm never bugged discussing my own weight. But I guess I've seen enough people who are prickly about their weight to shy away from that topic. (Although lots of people are prickly about their age....and that doesn't stop me from discussing it! ) Just on the topic of weight, though..... As my body has rebelled over the past five weeks and my run and bike volumes are way down, I have put a huge amount of time into Yoag. This is to the tune of about 6-8 classses a week, each about 75-80 minutes of actaul Yoga (taht is, not counting meditation time, or time in Corpse Pose at the end). NONE of the Yoga I'm doing is the hot and heavy stuff, such as Ashtanga or Bikram....and I have actually lost weight during this time. I am now close to the weight I am at during my normal mid- to late-season, and I think i can say that Yoga is an effective way to lose weight. Of course, most people cannot do it as often as I do (I have a senior's rate unlimited pass for $90/month), but then again some people are doing the more energetic or hot-room classes, so that has to count for a lot, too. I am sorry to hear about Buddy - what a grizzled but noble countenance he has. He certainly looks like he is watching out for the safety of his girlfriend there! Glad you're back -- and I hope the Sharks get their own game back real soon. (They sure looked better in their game one than my Bruins did in their dismal opener against Tampa! )

 

Steve,

Notice I never said how much I weigh Sealed I'll wait a few weeks to do that. I like the accountability of people knowing I'm supposed to be tracking my calories. The pounds will come off as they like I think. Plus today I logged everything in since my daughter can check on me and I want to set a good example for her

I did yoga for a month at a nearby studio and loved it. There is a new place very close to home that people seem to like that I've tried once. I keep meaning to get into a routine of going because I love the stretching aspect of it. Maybe now that my little trips are done for a while I can look into it again.

I was listening to the Sharks game while driving home yesterday. Dave kept texting me the score and my phone sends me alerts when there is a score. With all that input, it would of been nice to get a win! If there is a 3rd home game, we have tickets and I think with the loss there should be. We have tickets to the 3rd home game of each series and I missed the last 2 since I was out of town. Go Sharks!

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gdsemiller - 2011-05-16 2:58 PM Ok nutrition folks I need your input.  I went and signed up for the calorie counter that Johanne spoke about.  Oh my gosh, If my thinking is correct I need to reduce what I eat our train really hard daily.  My thinking is if I eat 1500 calories a day, then I want to do enough training to burn atleast the same amount????? Today it shows me eating 1038 Calories so far and I have not eaten dinner.  I ate 1 banana (121 calories) with 2 tablespoons of reduced fat peanut butter (187), then snack I had about 2oz of dry rosted peanuts (320) then lunch I had a 6 inch subway roast chicken sandwich with just veggies and oil and vinegar, no cheese or mayo (320) and for afternoon snack I had special k bar (90) for a toal of 1038 today.  I plan to eat the other 6inch tonight so that will bring me to 1358 calories today.  I looked at one of my bike logs where I biked 20.1 miles at 16 mph for 1hr 14 min and it says I only burned 805 calories. Either Im doing this calculating wrong or I need to bike 20 miles and run like 4 miles a or bike 20 miles and swim 1 mile each day if I eat the above foods.  Please tell me Im doing this wrong, that we should consume way more then what we burn. If not I will never lose weight. 

You need to take into account how many calories you burn just by being alive.  1500 calories is probably already low enough to lose weight without exercising.



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Alex - I really like that website and learned a lot, thanks

Thanks to everyone for their input on calories.  On the website that Alex suggested I was able to read up on the do and dont's and what my daily calorie burn is with no training.  It was pretty cool stuff. Thanks everyone.  I might have a few more questions later this week.  I think it will be fun to track my calories since I still have to lose about 60-70 pounds.  It will help me know what portions I can eat and all.  Thanks again everyone. 



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Ok, Im back with some more calorie questions. (Sorry, this stuff is just over my head and I want to make sure I understand and do it correctly)

According to Caloriesperhour.com - My BMR is 2383 and RMR is 2212 (Little or no exercise & Desk Job)  My BMR is 3426 and RMR is 3179 (Very Active, Hard exercise 6-7 days week). This is based on age 42, Height 5'7" weight 217. 

My questions are:

1) Should I use the BMR or RMR?

2) Should I use the one for Little or no exercise since the system does not no what I actually burn on training and then log in my training to see what calories I burned off training, or should I use the very active? 

3)My understanding on losing weight off the website is a deficit of 500 calories per day equals 1 pound a week lost and 1000 is 2 pounds per week. (I like the 2 pounds because according to fitday I need to have a calorie per day restriction of 952 to hit my weight goal on 12/31/11.

4) So if I use the RMR no activity log which tells me I burn 2212 calories a day without training, then I add a 1 hour bike ride and according to my log that activity burn 820 calories, so my total burned calories for the day is 3032.  So I will then take 3032 - 1000 restriction = 2032 (So i guess I need to eat no more than 2032 calories per day to lose 2 pounds per week.  (this is if I biked 1 hour that day.  I guess if I trained longer then my calories intake will increase and if I did less training then my intake will be lower.  If this is correct then I like it because I can plan my day of eating based on my workout activity for that week.

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GANG!

All of the nutritional/calorical talk here is very informative. It has gone WAY beyond my severely limited knowledge, so right now the learning curve is steep for me. Which is good!




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JOHANNE -

Third home game of each series....which would be game six in this one, yes? I'd really be surprised if it didn't make it that far, although it is a bit worrisome that the Sedins seems to have come out of their twin slumber. Hmmmm.


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