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Good morning everyone.  COLD here in South Alabama!  Half marathon tomorrow morning and it looks like we will have weather that is more like you folks in Wisconsin and New Hampshire are familiar with.  Race time forecast Sunny, temp 24, "feels like" 14 with NNW wind at 10mph. Before anyone chimes in stating that is perfect running weather please consider that the average high temp for today is 60 here.  I just dont run much in this type of weather.  Much like you northern folks coming down for a lunchtime run in June here with temps in low 90's with similar humidity.  ITS ALL WHAT YOU GET USE TOO!  Fortunately, I have had a couple of longer runs in the cold weather so I should be prepared.

Hope is that I can persuade supportive wife and sleepy daughter to get up and be my support team in the morning.  The course travels within a block of my office at the 4.5 mile mark.  Plan to suggest that they sit warm and snuggly although somewhat unhappily in my office until my ETA at the 4.5 mile mark and appear along the course to offer whatever limited encouragement thay can muster in such extreme conditions as well as provide me the opportunity to shed off any excess clothing. They can then drive to the finish, sit in the warm car, await my triumphant finish  and provide me with warm clothing as they listen to my play by play of each step of the race.  Sounds exciting doesn't it

My race gear will be in line with what I have worn on previous runs in cold temps:

From top to bottom: Beanie hat (also provides improved aerodynamics given my ear size), gloves, light short sleeve-tech tshirt, light long sleeve tech,  thin asics running jacket. Asics running tights (yeah that will be a real treat for the spectators), socks and trainers rather than race shoes as they are a little warmer.  This costume will lay delicately upon a thick layer of Body Glide applied to all appropriate and inappropriate areas.  I feel pretty good with this selection.  Most of the race goes East to West so there is not alot of running directly into the wind.

 I may remove the jacket at the 4.5 mark depending on support logistics and temps. BUT, I am unsure whether to wear running shorts over/under the tights or maybe compression shorts under the tights.  I know I cant go "commando" but if you wear running shorts with tights do you wear over or under the tights.  I dont plan to take the tights off if I start with them and have run with running shorts under the tights but they get a little bunched up.

Any cold weather running tips are appreciated.  I will spend the remainder of the day resting, doing a light spin on the bike/rollers and putting together a list of excuses and rationalizations to use in the event I dont race up to my limited potential.

Cheers,

Randy

Lumber Dad - 2010-01-08 8:17 PM

firstteeth - 2010-01-08 8:02 PM

Lumber Dad - 2010-01-08 3:13 PM Still listening to the book "Born to Run" now I am getting the bug to run a marathon again. Its been about 15 years since my last stand alone marathon. Guess I will have to see how the summer goes.

It's making me want to get outside to run again...but it's a little too far below zero for that

The Vibram Five Fingers I mentioned are the "barefoot running shoes"....think modern Tarahumara sandals.  I just ordered some to try.

Next weekend I am going to try a pair of these on to see how they feel.

Are you kidding? The guy who has been running in Asics since HS?

Race report: Not good.  Had a whole list of reasons to rationalize a possible poor performance but injury was not in the top 100.  Warmed up. Jogged 1/2 mile to start. Stretched some more and took off at planned pace.  All was well until about 2 miles in when my right hip/hamstring started giving me some pain.  Not terrible but it was changing my gait a little bit.  Stopped several times to stretch it out but it got progressively worse.  Dropped out between miles 3 and 4 when I could no longer run without limping.  Did not want to make it worse by continuing.  While this was my "A" running race it is just a part of my tri training so did not want to do anything to compromise race readiness for the Spring.  Funny thing is that my run training had been more consistent and measured over the past 3-4 months than ever before.  The usual aches and pains were non-existant and felt good going into the race.  Maybe us southerners are just not meant to run/race in cold weather.

Now pain is in right hip and just above right knee.  Not a bony or ligament pain like I have had with previous right knee problems-more of a sharp nervy pain.  I had some right hip pain about 1.5 years ago but it was more in the joint when putting weight on that leg.  No pain with stretching.  IT band? Piriformis?  Calling all the docs out there in our Lumberdad group, what do you think?

Looking at a long day of icing of trying to figure out why I am falling apart.  Hopefully it will not be anything that is going to last long.  Probably the tri-gods way of telling me that I need to swim more.  

Usually I am posting everyday in the forums but training for the next couple races combined with work, kids and 9 inches of snow has kept me away!

Sounds like everyone is doing well...for the most part.   I too have had sinus issues. I find that if I do use a sinus irrigation kit right when I start to get stuffy it helps a lot.

I hear you guys on the sleep thing - I have only been getting 5 or 6 hours..either not falling asleep or not staying asleep..*sigh*

Whose racing this weekend?  If you aren't what is everyone else doing?  I am teaching spin tomorrow then running 5 or so  miles.  Sunday morning is 10-13 miles.  Maybe get a chance to do some skiing (downhill) on this minature slopes in Wisconisn

Race report: Not good.  Had a whole list of reasons to rationalize a possible poor performance but injury was not in the top 100.  Warmed up. Jogged 1/2 mile to start. Stretched some more and took off at planned pace.  All was well until about 2 miles in when my right hip/hamstring started giving me some pain.  Not terrible but it was changing my gait a little bit.  Stopped several times to stretch it out but it got progressively worse.  Dropped out between miles 3 and 4 when I could no longer run without limping.  Did not want to make it worse by continuing.  While this was my "A" running race it is just a part of my tri training so did not want to do anything to compromise race readiness for the Spring.  Funny thing is that my run training had been more consistent and measured over the past 3-4 months than ever before.  The usual aches and pains were non-existant and felt good going into the race.  Maybe us southerners are just not meant to run/race in cold weather.

Now pain is in right hip and just above right knee.  Not a bony or ligament pain like I have had with previous right knee problems-more of a sharp nervy pain.  I had some right hip pain about 1.5 years ago but it was more in the joint when putting weight on that leg.  No pain with stretching.  IT band? Piriformis?  Calling all the docs out there in our Lumberdad group, what do you think?

Looking at a long day of icing of trying to figure out why I am falling apart.  Hopefully it will not be anything that is going to last long.  Probably the tri-gods way of telling me that I need to swim more.  

Race report: Not good.  Had a whole list of reasons to rationalize a possible poor performance but injury was not in the top 100.  Warmed up. Jogged 1/2 mile to start. Stretched some more and took off at planned pace.  All was well until about 2 miles in when my right hip/hamstring started giving me some pain.  Not terrible but it was changing my gait a little bit.  Stopped several times to stretch it out but it got progressively worse.  Dropped out between miles 3 and 4 when I could no longer run without limping.  Did not want to make it worse by continuing.  While this was my "A" running race it is just a part of my tri training so did not want to do anything to compromise race readiness for the Spring.  Funny thing is that my run training had been more consistent and measured over the past 3-4 months than ever before.  The usual aches and pains were non-existant and felt good going into the race.  Maybe us southerners are just not meant to run/race in cold weather.

Now pain is in right hip and just above right knee.  Not a bony or ligament pain like I have had with previous right knee problems-more of a sharp nervy pain.  I had some right hip pain about 1.5 years ago but it was more in the joint when putting weight on that leg.  No pain with stretching.  IT band? Piriformis?  Calling all the docs out there in our Lumberdad group, what do you think?

Looking at a long day of icing of trying to figure out why I am falling apart.  Hopefully it will not be anything that is going to last long.  Probably the tri-gods way of telling me that I need to swim more.  

jgerbodegrant - 2010-01-12 7:22 AM Okay...so who is our resident swimming expert?  I am having trouble staying straight.  I feel like every time I take a stroke, I am crossing over my body with my lead hand when I roll my body to one side and I can't correct it once I get a little tired.  Any suggestions?

I am no expert on swimming but crossing over seems to be a big problem for alot of folks.  I saw where someone had suggested thinking of hand entry at more of a 10 and 2 o'clock position rather than straight ahead.  May seem a litlle exaggerated but possibly worth a try.  Have you looked at the www.swimsmooth.com  site?  Some good stuff there.

Lenny-have you tried the Vibram FF yet? Which model did you get?  Picked up "Born to Run" after so many favorable mentions here.  Only a couple of chapters in but looks like a good read.  Curious about the Vibram FF although given the way they look on people's feet I think the FF must stand for Fred Flintstone  But with that said, I am curious about incorporating some minimalist shoes in my training. Thanks 

wherever your head goes, your body will follow.  Therefore, you must remember to keep your head still with your eyes at a 45-degree angle. If your head moves back and forth - side to side, your body will begin to snake through the water creating more resistance. If your head is too far down, your body will dive down creating more resistance. If your head is too far up, your upper body will go up, dropping your hips and creating more resistance."