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GEORGE again -

The helmet is a Rudy Project model, can't remember the specific name. I think they only produce one model of the aero ones, just in a bunch of different color schemes.

The model name is "Wingspan".

I waited a long time to get one -- after August 7 or so last year, in fact. I came off another two races in which I rode really well, and I knew my position was conducive to an aero helmet, and I found one on sale in Ottawa, and that was that.

The plus is that for people with a good riding position, they really do help. The minus is that they can get much hotter than a conventional helmet with all those vents. There are ways to open up the Wingspan, but it will never be as cool (temp-wise, that is) as a regular helmet.

Another negative is that it is fragile, especially the ears flaps. They are flexible, but can also crack along the flex points --as my left flap has done. Rats!


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GEORGE once more -

That Article 5 you cite? Was thta one you filibustered through while I was sleeping during a legislative session? I don't remember that one at all!

Another set you can see of me is from my first du this season, and that is at www.zoomphoto.ca, then click on Cumberland Duathlons, then type in my number, 168. There are TWO pages from that race....which is kind of unfortunate becasue I was physically hurting (the hip/groin thing), and it showed in my comportment in a few of them. Plus, I was even more winter-white then!

I should try to find photos from a race last year, where there are bike ones of me where the photographer was in a field of sunflowers, and they form the foreground for three photos. It is especially nice because I wore yellow that day, and match the sunflowers perfectly. It is also a good set because they serve as an object-lesson for what happens to one who rides 56 miles way too hard, and doesn't fuel properly, and then does a 13.1 mile run on a hillier-than-expected course on a hotter-than-desired day. Needless to say, the run ones show me operating under a fair bit of duress! I will look for those later, but I think he jettisoned all his archives when he retooled his website last fall. A pity!


2011-05-26 10:31 PM
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ELLEN -

Funny line about the Johnny Cash thing!

As for Yoga, I will get to you about that soon. It's become much more complicated than I every thought it would be (hint: I realized early on that there is more to Yoga than just the poses).



2011-05-27 12:02 PM
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stevebradley - 2011-05-21 10:14 PM LORI - Which one happened today? And, how did it all unfold??

Last long run last Sunday was pretty much an epic fail.  Did 8.5 miles in 1:21.  Hot (80 degrees when I finished), ran out of water at 8 miles.  The hay is pretty much in the barn any way.  The long bike went well.  The long swim on Saturday was tiring.  'Tis been a long time since I have swam 3600 yards!

The weather for the Madison Marathon is forecast to be warm and humid.  I plan on taking it easy and working on the hydration and nutrition plan for my half iron in July.  Expected finishing time for the half marathon is 2:10-2:15 due to the heat and humidity.  This old body is extremely heat intolerant!

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Who else is racing this weekend? 

2011-05-27 12:04 PM
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stevebradley - 2011-05-25 8:36 AM RACE PHOTOS, TOO The company that does the photos for this series always shoots many, many, many. Many. Manymany. So, if you want, go to www.zoomphoto.ca, and then click on Early Bird Tri/Du and Colonel By Classic (that's the run-only part of the day). Then for participant #, my bib number was 321. I actually like a couple from each running set (first batch were end of 1st run, copming into T1, second batch was approaching the finish). The bike ones are okay, but not too inspired. Do I look menacing in black?

Very nice race Steve!  You do indeed look menacing but you also look fast!



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stevebradley - 2011-05-21 10:14 PM LORI - Which one happened today? And, how did it all unfold??

Last long run last Sunday was pretty much an epic fail.  Did 8.5 miles in 1:21.  Hot (80 degrees when I finished), ran out of water at 8 miles.  The hay is pretty much in the barn any way.  The long bike went well.  The long swim on Saturday was tiring.  'Tis been a long time since I have swam 3600 yards!

The weather for the Madison Marathon is forecast to be warm and humid.  I plan on taking it easy and working on the hydration and nutrition plan for my half iron in July.  Expected finishing time for the half marathon is 2:10-2:15 due to the heat and humidity.  This old body is extremely heat intolerant!

The more important question:

Who else is racing this weekend? 

80 degrees is what I call comfortable! We are flirting with 90's now. Did 4.3 miles at lunch today 85 degrees I think. Racing Memorial Day a 5k, very competitive field, not sure if a 24 min 5k gets me anything this time.

2011-05-27 1:57 PM
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HI,

I'm having second (third, fourth ) thoughts about Eagleman.  I would like to concentrate on Nation's and not have another terrible experience between now and then.  I am really in the "What was I thinking" mode curently.  Must be that childbirth thing again.

I really did not enjoy the swim at Columbia and last year at Eagleman was worse.  It is not the jellyfish, (although I did not know about them before Steve mentioned them) Thank you very much.  If I did, I relegated them to some deep comparrtment of my brain where they would remain hidden until June 14th (or until I encountered one).  BUT NOW!!!! 

Actually, Last year I was not at all prepared for the possibility that wet suits would not be legal.  I did not have a tri top since I usually pull a white wickey thing on after I get out of the water.  Since I really had no choice I just walked to the water and jumped in when it was my turn.  I was trying real hard to stay clear of the cameras, they were everywhere.

So I am not sure what to do since I am relly not ready.  Then I think I should go and see what happens.  What's the worst that could happen?  I don't really want to find out.  But I probably will. 

What to do? what to do?

Ellen

 

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Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. I am volunteering at the local kids tri tomorrow and then probably running or swimming.  I need to get in a really long bike ride and I hope to do that on Monday.  Sunday will be long run day.

 

 

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Lori - Good luck on your 1/2 Mary on Sunday.  I bet you will do great, looking at your log and all.  You are ready, just make sure you keep the fluids in you.

Jeff - Good luck on your race this weekend.  The way you have been racing with your time dropping and dropping and dropping, even if you dont get to stand on the podium this weekend, you will walk away with a smile on your face because I know your time will Let Me Hear Yall Say It, """Drop Again""!!!

Ellen - Oh Ellen, I say you go for it and sign-up, Hey you might get a cool color swim cap that I can trade my green one for.  Have fun helping the kids with their Tri race this weekend.  My son will race in his second Mutli-Sport race on June 5th which will be his first tri race.  We did not get a chance to practice his swimming since the Rec center Im a member of says he is to young for the indoor lap pool.  I forgot my uncle has a 40' foot at his house and we are going to start going over there to train for his swimming, his next kid tri is Oct 2.  The swim on his age group is 75 yards, good thing is that I was told the kids will be swimming in the shallow end so if he needs to stop and stand up he could.  The swim is in Mobile Bay.

Well no race for me this weekend, but I do plan to go on a nice 35mile ride tomorrow morning with a group in Gulf Shores Alabama.  I have not rode with them so I hope they are not to fast.  I plan to get some heat training this weekend to prepare me for my Sprint Tri on next weekend June 4th, I want this to be my A race for sprint distance.

2011-05-27 6:32 PM
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LORI -

Yup, the hay is in the barn -- so don't think about that "epic fail", at least in those terms. I would say it was great experience for what awaits you, which is more of warm and humid. In my view, your body got a further dose of conditioning for those conditions, and that'll make Madison just one small step less intolerable.

A woman from my first group did IM Louisville as her first iron last August. As you know, this is usually a heatfest, and a very humid heatfest to boot. Lisa and her husband, Ryan, live in Reston, VA, which can also be hot and humid in the summer, and Lisa chose to do most of her long runs in the middle of the afternoon. Ryan, who also did LOO, did his in the cool early morning, but Lisa stuck with her attitude of "everybody hates heat and humidity, so if it's gonna be there I might as well know what it feels like". She had a great race, and her time for the run was something like 3:52, I think.

ANYHOW, take what you can from that run. You know what it feels like to run of water at around eight miles, so that's just further incentive to hit every aid station. And two cups, m'am -- one for the gullet, one to dump over you.

Good swim, too. You were a very busy bee last weekend!




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JEFF -

Maybe no hardware, but one more piece of experience to deposit in the bank -- so that's all to the good!



2011-05-27 6:56 PM
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ELLEN -

I haven't forgotten the Yoga question, but for now it's one to bigger matters -- to wit, Eagleman.

First, I apologize for bringing up the jellyfish thing. That was in '09, and maybe '08, so I just figured it would've been on the tip of everyone's tongue last year. Oops. But really, they weren't there in '03 and '04, and historically I don't think they are common at all. And they're small -- please don't picture big old Portuguese Man of War ones, okay?

Second.....I'm not sure what you should do. I can make arguments both ways, and will if you want me to. I will say, though, that there are reasons to not race long-distances when less-than-well-prepared, although a learning experience can be crafted from just about any race.

At this point you won't get a refund, so it comes down to gas (I think last year you just drove there and back, same day, yes?) and anxiety. Those are the negatives. The positives are camaraderie, and whatever else you can do to make the day workable and beneficial.

How are your injuries lately? Any to report? If so, that's agood reason to bail on it, especially if you are leaning that way to begin with. Another way to approach it is to watch the weather, and follow the tri forums for chat about water temps. If the weekend-of approaches with forecasts in the 90s and either humid or windy....then that might influence your decision. If the week before sees reports of 76F in The Choptank, then you will have some further data to deal with.

I wouldn't assume that something really bad will happen, other than maybe the classic "long day". Please let me know what your longest runs and rides have been so far this season. I'm not sure I have any sense of that.

And again, let me know if you want more pros and cons, okay?



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ELLEN again -

Have fun with the kids tri. Those are a hoot to watch, and working one would even be more fun. Enjoy!



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JEFF again --

Whcih one will you be doing on Monday, and where?


2011-05-27 7:19 PM
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LORI again -

I really like the profile of your course! There's that sweet downhill to start, and then mostly flat with a few lumps and bumps here and there. Of course, there's the climb back to the finish, but if you conserve just a bit of energy and maybe take the preceding 1/4 mile or so a bit easy, you should be fine.

7:12 start? That's random enough!





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stevebradley - 2011-05-27 6:38 PM JEFF - Maybe no hardware, but one more piece of experience to deposit in the bank -- so that's all to the good!

The Stonebridge Memorial Day Run McKinney Texas

 

http://stonebridgeracers.com/stonebridge_memorial_day_5k_and_10k.html

2011-05-27 8:34 PM
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Back to the Eagleman question.  I have a place to stay with a good friend.  That is one of the positives. I did drive right home last year (family issues) but this year I will hang out one more night.  I have no injuries that I can lean on currently. I guess that I am just feeling that I am not ready for a HI.  Now, having said that, I am sure I can cover the distance.  I could finish.  I thought that after last year that my time  would get better.  I am not so sure now.   Does that matter? Not to me.  Is that a problem? 

So, assuming I go ahead and do it. What do you think I should concentrate on in the next 2 weeks (no pressure)? I mean after you mentioned that the Lock Ness Monster was waiting to get me maybe I should focus on wooden crosses and garlic concentrate. Back to the topic at hand,  I think the run is the weak point in my training but is is the hardest to recover from.  It seems that following a canned plan at this point is a like cramming for an exam.  Does that work with triathlon?  Probably not. 

I can just proceed to do what I do each day but that may not be the best plan. 

You  asked about my long run and bike.  Probably 1 hour and 2 respectivley.  The run will be in excess of 2.5 hours and the bike certainly more than 3.  That is a big difference.  So I am in a quandry? 

Again, Good wishes for all of you competing this weekend.  I will be looking forward to your reports. I'm sure George can quote you the chapter and verse where that appears in the Mojos' bylaws, about having to report I mean.

Ellen

 

 

 

 

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ELLEN -

As for crosses and garlic, no need. But coating on's exposed skin with BodyGlide or Vaseline will. The only problem with the latter is that it shouldn't touch the wetsuit, as petroleum-based products eat neoprene. I also seem to remember some commercial product that can be used to repel the little, wee, miniscule, tickle-me-lightly jellyfish that MAY bop about in the Choptank!

Many people, in prep for an iron-distance, will just do the swim and bike portions of a half-iron a couple of weeks before their iron race, and then pack up and head off without doing the run. That is what EVERYbody does in an aquabike. So, one way to approach E-man is to do the swim and bike and then leave. Vamoose. That is fine, that is kosher, there is nothing wrong with that at all. There may even be a few people doing IM Couer d'Alene who will treat E-man like that.

The advantage there is that if you are looking at something to concentrate on for the next two weeks, there it is -- swim and bike. And it just won't beat up on you the same way, of course. A half-iron run is bnever a sweet and joyous thing, and most times at E-man it is quite the opposite. (However, it's mighty nice to make it back into those treed neighborhoods again at about mile 11.5 or so!).

No, it is not a problem to not care at this point if your time improves this year over last year. In fact, it is very realistic to realize that your training so far has not been conducive to a PR-type effort, as you won't fall into either of two traps -- disappointment, ot injury due to pushing too hard to reach the unattainable.

Remember, too, that many people do these things for fun, or the camaraderie, or the experience. They may sign up for a race just because it gives them a chance to see friends or family or the local sights, and the race is very much secondary - maybe even tertiary -- in importance.

As for following a plan at this point, no need to. Your cramming analogy is pretty good, plus at this stage of most plans they will be at some far-along sequential stage that just won't apply to you. You can look at some plans to try to find a workout or two that seems to offer some variety, but probably with two weeks to go you just need to do a few long rides, increase your run distances if you decide to do the whole thing, and add in a couple of longer swims. It isn't rocket science at this point, but just getting your body a bit more used to 1.2/56/13.1.

And if you bail on it, that's okay too. IT REALLY IS! There will probably be over a hundred people who signed up for E-man who will not make it to the start line, for any number of reasons -- including the fact that they couldn't do the training in order to do justice to the race.

I have to leave for Yoga now, but when I return here I'll just add a bit more about experience, in the sense of looking for lessons from E-man if you do it.

Bye for now!


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George! Great article on BT man! Goosebumpage occurred!
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Steve! Your race was awesome dude! Great times! You probably smoked past a lot of surprised younger studs! I love it when I can pass the chick who discounted me as some old lady at the start of the race


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Sarah,

Last weekend at Columbia my wave was 4th.  So right after me were the 30-35 year old men.  I got out of the water before them (we had a big lead), but they went by me on the bike. Many of them saw my age and made a point of saying "Good job" or "keep it up".  I can't figure out how I feel about that but I guess they really do mean to be kind and are encouraging me.  Maybe some day I will pass someone and be able to reciprocate. 

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stevebradley - 2011-05-27 7:19 PM LORI again - I really like the profile of your course! There's that sweet downhill to start, and then mostly flat with a few lumps and bumps here and there. Of course, there's the climb back to the finish, but if you conserve just a bit of energy and maybe take the preceding 1/4 mile or so a bit easy, you should be fine. 7:12 start? That's random enough!

Not much at all in the way of hills except for the long uphill to the finish!

Definitely a strange, random start time.  All three races start at the same starting line (marathon, half marathon, quarter marathon).  Start time is 6:55 for the wheelies, 7:00 for the marathoners, 7:12 for the half marathoners (largest number of participants), and 7:40 for the quarter marathoners.  The marathoners do all of the half course and three additional loops in different areas. 

Drove the parts of the new course yesterday.  No real surprises out there.

Hmmmm, I could never run down south with Jeff and George.  I would absolutely die in that heat.  Anything above 65 is warm for this northern gal.  I would love temps in the 40s! 

I don't know how you run in that heat.  We went from 50s to 80s in a week.  Temps tomorrow should be in the 60s through the race but very humid.  I will take that over the 80s and humidity from last year! 



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stevebradley - 2011-05-21 10:14 PM The more important question:

Who else is racing this weekend? 

80 degrees is what I call comfortable! We are flirting with 90's now. Did 4.3 miles at lunch today 85 degrees I think. Racing Memorial Day a 5k, very competitive field, not sure if a 24 min 5k gets me anything this time.

Big props to you for running in the heat!  I guess you get accustomed to it over a period of time?

Have a great 5K Jeff!

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stevebradley - 2011-05-21 10:14 PM The more important question:

Who else is racing this weekend? 

80 degrees is what I call comfortable! We are flirting with 90's now. Did 4.3 miles at lunch today 85 degrees I think. Racing Memorial Day a 5k, very competitive field, not sure if a 24 min 5k gets me anything this time.

Big props to you for running in the heat!  I guess you get accustomed to it over a period of time?

Have a great 5K Jeff!

Thanks! Yes you adjust..it is 90 now and after my wife leaves for work I am headed out on a long bike ride. In Texas at least it isn't as humid as other areas. Anyway you either run in the heat or take 4 months off!

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