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2011-05-28 6:22 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED66 miles! Still struggling to get my averages out of the mid-teens. Somewhere, out there, is my 19-21 mph avg speed unless it went wherever my hair went! Hot and windy of course, Most of my route had a cross wind and I kept a good tempo there, then turned North into Oklahoma and really kicked it hard with the tail wind. I felt strong right up to the 62 mile point, then just struggled back in through town-spent. But I feel 100 coming closer. Virtually no holiday traffic, I avoided the lakes of course, the only traffic I encountered was around the VFW, no big deal. One of the benefits of a small town |
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2011-05-28 6:25 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Boy it was hot and humid today. I was going to do an early ride but i then decided to wait till mid day to get a good heat ride in. Mon-fri i ride at 4am so i need to get some heat training. Todays ride was 21.7 miles and it was 89degrees. I drank 20oz of heed, 1 hammer gel, 1 crustable pb&j and about 40oz of water. My morning rides about the same distance i only drink about 20oz of water. Boy the heat just sucks the fluids out of you. |
2011-05-28 6:31 PM in reply to: #3523221 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDgdsemiller - 2011-05-28 6:25 PM Boy it was hot and humid today. I was going to do an early ride but i then decided to wait till mid day to get a good heat ride in. Mon-fri i ride at 4am so i need to get some heat training. Todays ride was 21.7 miles and it was 89degrees. I drank 20oz of heed, 1 hammer gel, 1 crustable pb&j and about 40oz of water. My morning rides about the same distance i only drink about 20oz of water. Boy the heat just sucks the fluids out of you. Give me that Texas blast furnace windy heat over your Alabama sauna heat anyday |
2011-05-28 6:41 PM in reply to: #3522930 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI - I'm with you on the heat, and what sorts of temperatures are preferable! JEFF - I'm with you on blast furnace vs. stifling humid. GEORGE - You have my upmost respect for toughing out that ride today! JEFF and GEORGE - That's thr tipping point -- if you can't challenge and tolerate the heat/humidity, you take a good four months off from training! |
2011-05-28 6:55 PM in reply to: #3522930 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDELLEN - If they are M30-35 and are taking the effort to say those things, they really mean it. It's very decent of them to do that. You know, we older folk often think that younger people feel invincible and have no concpet of the aging process. While that is probably quite a bit true up to the late 20s, I have found that many people beyond maybe about 28 are quite in awe of those of us 55+ who are still racing. I have gotten a lot of comments over the years to this effect, and I always accept them appreciatively and graciously. I hope that everyone who takes the time to tell us that is still doing this stuff when they're our age. And while I have you here...... Another view on E-man holds for all racing -- it should be fun. It should be looked forward to, and while some trepidation is allowed, the process should not be treated as an ordeal. I'm just sayin'! It never ceases to amaze me that the people who have the best time at races are those who are mostly doing it for fun, and with minimal competitive goals in place. Most of the competitive types get highly-strung before the race, and every stroke, pedal-circle, and footfall carries too much baggage with it. I try to alleviate the pressures on myself by (1) being chatty before the race, (2) encouraging others on the bike, (3) thanking all volunteers anywhere, and (4) acknowledging anything that is said to me by spectators on the run. This mostly works....but doesn't erase the fact that as the sewason progresses, i get more tired of putting on my "race-face". So, in a sense, each subsequent race is less fuuer than the one before it. That is all a digression to the short paragraph above it, about trying to view E-man as a fun event for you. On a scale of 1-10 where 10 is more fun than the funnest thing you can imagine, where would you please E-man? And that includes the visit with your friend! |
2011-05-28 7:01 PM in reply to: #3523233 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - From a couple of days ago you asked about disc wheels......and I have never ridden on them. The deepest I have ridden is a Hed Deep that was 80mm, I think, and that was just on the rear. My current race wheels are 60mm each, which isn't all that deep. Still, at times I can get a gust that catches them just right, and I have a moment of seeing my life flash in front on my eyes. If someone gave me discs I would take them, but I was never tempted to buy them on my own. I sometimes wonder about thta, but mostly think that the compromise I have is a good one. |
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2011-05-28 7:47 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDI raced on a disk cover for a while for some TT's and a long solo ride-Austin to Dallas. I believe there was some aero benefit in the shorter rides, the long ride not so much-the weight was a bigger factor on rides over 8-12 hours, also allot of hills seemed to negate the benefit. Actual disk wheels maybe better though. I think I used it on one 24 hour TT but if I remember right I switched to my normal race wheels after dark, I was slowing down anyway and the weight once again was a factor. I do remember the bike was a tad less responsive with it in terms of accelerating. Not a big deal for tris I guess but I was doing allot of road racing then and noticed these things. It also telegraphed every shift or move to others in a group, there were no sneak attacks coming from me with that thing on |
2011-05-28 7:53 PM in reply to: #3523233 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDstevebradley - 2011-05-28 6:55 PM ELLEN - If they are M30-35 and are taking the effort to say those things, they really mean it. It's very decent of them to do that. You know, we older folk often think that younger people feel invincible and have no concept of the aging process. While that is probably quite a bit true up to the late 20s, I have found that many people beyond maybe about 28 are quite in awe of those of us 55+ who are still racing. I have gotten a lot of comments over the years to this effect, and I always accept them appreciatively and graciously. I hope that everyone who takes the time to tell us that is still doing this stuff when they're our age.
"We are not now that strength which in old days Tennyson |
2011-05-28 9:12 PM in reply to: #3522930 |
Elite 3067![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDZam92 - 2011-05-28 11:21 AM Sarah, Last weekend at Columbia my wave was 4th. So right after me were the 30-35 year old men. I got out of the water before them (we had a big lead), but they went by me on the bike. Many of them saw my age and made a point of saying "Good job" or "keep it up". I can't figure out how I feel about that but I guess they really do mean to be kind and are encouraging me. Maybe some day I will pass someone and be able to reciprocate. Ellen I get goose bumps when I see older folks out there. I always clap for them or give a hoot and holler, 'great job' sort of stuff. I admire them for getting out there, testing their mettle, and reinforcing that life is pretty good as we age. Heck, a good percentage of local older AG's do quite well overall and many beat my butt big time! One time though, this one guy didn't look to happy - maybe due to being hot and tired but maybe I offended him. I hope that if I'm still out there at 60, 70, and God willing 80 that folks cheer me on in the way that I cheer them on. |
2011-05-28 11:02 PM in reply to: #3523270 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - Nice long ride, and very fine summation of your experiences with a disc cover. Yeah, I think I'm glad I didn't spring for one (or two?)! |
2011-05-28 11:05 PM in reply to: #3522575 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF again - Thanks for the Tennyson! That's two Tennysons thrown at me the past few days, and one of my Yoga teachers recited "The Eagle" during class on Thursday. I'm wondering where and when the third Tennyson reference will come from, given that good things always come in threes. |
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2011-05-28 11:07 PM in reply to: #3523412 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI at the MADISON HALF-MARATHON Sunday morning, 7:12 start. Romp with impunity, Lori! (And JEFF is in the on-deck circle for his 5km on Monday!) |
2011-05-29 11:57 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDTaper week, what % should i cut back this week for my sprint this weekend. I dont want to overdue the training this week. Thanks |
2011-05-29 2:32 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Member 179![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDI have a plan. Thank you Steve for putting all this into perspective. Eagleman is just a race. I must have thought I would enjoy it because I signed up for it when it opened. I will go and learn something from the experience. I do love the early morning hours of a race before the sun comes up. When everyone is arriving and starting to buzz around. You can tell who the competitors are and who is there to finish. I like talking to the other women in my wave and learning where they are from and why they are there. Probably the only part I don't like is the first 10 minutes of the swim. It takes me that long to settle down and start to make some actual progress. The bike is usually a lot of fun. Although Columbia may be an exception. The first year it rained and this year I'm pretty sure the hills grew. Must have something to do with plate tectonics right around Howard County , MD. Then comes the run which is more like a stroll for me. I am working on running this summer. The local track club has Wenesday night speed work sessions which are pretty intense. I'll try those and see if I can improve. As for the next 2 weeks , I will follow your advice Steve and lengthen my run and do a longer bike. I ran yesterday and swam 3200 yards today. Tomorrow I bike. It is the first time I will ride with a local group and I am hoping it is the rigtht speed and challenge for me. Other than that, there is work and wondering where my college age son is most of the night. Thankfully, he is starting work so I am hoping he will be on a more regular schedule. Good luck to all who are racing or preparing this weekend (one day left). We will be expecting reports. Ellen
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2011-05-29 3:15 PM in reply to: #3523666 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Looks like you're doing Grandman on Saturday, yes? Did you do anything today (Sunday)? If today was a family day, then that's good, and you can enjoy an easy taper week of: Mo -- Swim, about 1500-1800m Tu -- Bike, 50-60 minutes, with tempo section of about 22 minutes in the middle We -- Run, about 35 minutes, with temp of 15 minutes in middle Th -- Swim, about 900-1000m Fr -- Bike, 20-30 recovery-style I think you're on a plan, so that's just a rough scope of workouts. If one had to go, I would dump the second swim and move the bike to there. Or, if you did something today, then take tomorrow off and finish the week with S1, B1, R, and B2. Now. Does that look like a reduction to your eyes, and how does it jive with your plan? |
2011-05-29 3:26 PM in reply to: #3523769 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDELLEN - Good! You sound settled! In my extensive history of racing, few places are as nice in the early hours as Eagleman. Lobsterman was close, but lacks the buzz that envelopes Eagleman. Must be all those studs and studettes gunning for Kona and 70.3 championship spots! You are one of manymanymany who take a while to get settled into the swim -- and that's any swim. I don't know if that helps you any to know that, but there it is. There must be a support group somewhere for people who bide their time waiting to become as one with the swim. Funny you say that about Columbia, because between '05 and '10, I thought those big hills grew some, too! And, for that matter, so did the run hills. i think you're onto something with your idea about plate tectonics! Go easy with the speed sessions. Remember that many people there has been regulars for quite a while, and have taught their Achilles how to behave under duress. Try to find a coach wandering the premises and tell him why you're there and what you hope to accomplish. In the meantime, work on your own with your cadence. Do a count (single foot only) for one minute, and try not to do anything different -- just your regular running gait. Try this about three times, separated by maybe five minutes, and let me know, okay? Finally, expecting reports is right, or we'll send George to enforce the law of the land! |
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2011-05-29 7:04 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDEllen - it takes you 10 minutes to get your rythm on the swim, wow you are doing awesome. I dont get my rythm until im in t1, the swim is a exhausting blur to me. Oh and per steve i will be out in force with the mojo law book in hand.Steve- thanks for the workout plan for this week. Yes im doing. The grandman this sat. I did do a 4 mile walk/run with the wife today at the beach. She kicked my rear but made me run and bcuz of that i dropped my time by 1min 20 sec since my last 4miles. |
2011-05-30 4:24 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDI do have a question on these hot training days. I noticed that when its really hot my hands will swell up. Yesterday when me and my wife ran, both our hands got swollen. Is this normal. |
2011-05-30 6:10 AM in reply to: #3524140 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - About the swollen hands, it is not exactly uncommon. I have read about centrifugal force, and too much salt, and too little salt, and an overall electrolyte imbalance. It is not something I have experienced. The centrif one is from ultrarunners mostly, I think, who can often have a hands-hanging-low gait. I guess it could happen to anyone, though, who run with arms ahnging down and fingers pointing at the ground. I don't think tat's your running form, however. So, let's think about electrolytes, especially salt. I think there is a term for this type of heat-related imblance, and it's edema (??). Maybe have a loook at that in a home medical encyclopedia -- or the good old 'net! A simple and inexpensive way to work with the swollen hands would be to have a good hit of Gatorade or Powerade before any of your hot runs. These carry a massive hit of sodium, I think, and that might be enough to tip the balance from what you're been taking in before runs previously. If this seems to help, but you want to avoid the sugar content of Gat and Pow, then you could try something like Endurolyte capsules, which are made by Hammer Nutrition. Each capsule contains 100mg of salt (40 as sodium, 60 as chloride), plus clacium, magnesium, and potassium. Hammer distribbutes these in packets of 4 capsules at races, so you could probably call them up and ask them to send you a couple of packets. You could also call them and ask about the swelling; they probably have a good answer for you. And if they can't send you a sample or two, PM me with your address and I can send you some. |
2011-05-30 6:14 AM in reply to: #3524167 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE again - No swollen hands for me, but how about a reddened and itchy scalp (from mid-forehead up to just beyond the hairline if I had hair)? This started about a week ago, and only marginally seems to be getting better. I wonder if it is from my Yoga mat, or maybe the floor of the studio. There is no flaking or anything more noticeable than the redness. It kind of looks like too much sun, but that isn't the cause of it. Wearing a running hat can make the itchy feeling a bit more pronounced. I guess I should go to my doctor. |
2011-05-30 6:15 AM in reply to: #3524169 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - Have a good one today!!! LORI - How was Madison H-M??? |
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2011-05-30 6:58 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSteve - i have 1 pack of those pills. I have not taken any yet since i was not sure when to take them and what they were for. I might try them one weekend. |
2011-05-30 7:11 AM in reply to: #3524188 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI - Whoa, Lori! Unless I have you confused with some other Lori from McFarland, you had a very fine race! The goal-time you mentioned last week was pretty much shattered, by may-many minutes. The overall age group placement was terrific, too, and a nice photo-finish with you and two others -- all within two seconds. Now, if you weren't #1996, this becomes a very dumb post.....so i will leave it here for now. But if you WERE #1996, congratulations!!!!! Edited by stevebradley 2011-05-30 7:42 AM |
2011-05-30 8:14 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLori - awesome job on your race. 9:43min pace, i cant keep that pace for 2 miles and you did it for 13.1 miles, that is great. 3415LoriHolen52 F F5054 McFarlandWI 1996 38/87 925/2017 29:00 51:21 1:53:09 2:07:12 9:43 Edited by gdsemiller 2011-05-30 8:23 AM |
2011-05-30 10:16 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Expert 1051![]() ![]() ![]() San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWeigh In Monday-down 3.4 lbs! I had a big build week and I'm sure that had something to do with losing more then the 2 lbs I was planning for. I've tried to be careful and really eat to fuel my pre/post workouts but I think I'll have to add a few more calories some days. Lori, great race! Was that really you??? You are who I want to run like! Jeff, good luck on your race. Are you also training for a century? You're putting in a lot of bike miles! George, less then a week. Woohoo! You are going to do great! Ellen, Eagleman IS just a race. You might do better then you expect Hope everyone is having a great Memorial Day, even our Canadian! Johanne |
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