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 2011-06-07 6:54 AM in reply to: #3536074 |
Champion  10618   |  Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGENE - And I third it --great trip! I hope you have some loose time to spend in Barcelona -- very cool city. I am not at all wordly, and beyond the borders of North America am hardly a world traveller, but we did Spain a couple of years ago and Barcelona was right at the top of the WOW! list. As for the other ports-of-call on your itinerary.....only in my dreams! |
| 2011-06-07 7:04 AM in reply to: #3536030 |
Veteran 283  New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-06-06 9:41 PM ALEX - Graston on the ITB....and you weren't left in the featl position?!? Mercy! Active Release technique is very good fro ITB, but Graston is supposedly even better. But the pain threshhold that is required is very high indeed, so you must be incredibly brough (brave/tough). I hear you about competitiveness, but I think you did the totally right thing to pass on the run. It's a long life you have in front of you, and if the bug has indeed bit you, over time (and hopefully it's short-term right now) you'll have many a day to do all three disciplines. As a drifter myself, I have no hard and fast advice for you. For me, it comes and goes, and has never been really bad. But it is annoying and does cost time, and only once has it cost me more than a minute (by my best guess), and that was in a half-iron (and maybe it was two minutes; I was a fair ways off   ). My best advice is to work on sighting so you can sight more frequently without upsetting your body position too much, and thus can correct when you get "angling" too much. I have another thought, too, but first -- which side do you breathe on, and how often do you breathe? Finally, in my year of doing aquabikes, some of them were true aqbks, others were like you did it -- just bail after the bike. Some of those also didn't get listed, while other people had their splits listed just fine. I don't know why it works that way. I'll bet that if you email the RD, though, it can be straightened it up for you. The computer has your results SOMEwhere! It's worth a try, anyhow? STEVE Plan for today is strength training and swimming. Thanks for all of your advice and help-- this is an awesome group! Alex |
| 2011-06-07 7:12 AM in reply to: #3536389 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED GEORGE - Here's my thinking as to the problems you had catching your breath during the run. It could be some combination of the following: 1.) Bike pace too relentlessly fast 2.) T2 too rushed, and you went almost anaerobic 3.) Run fitness still isn't where you want it to be Given that you hit that breath wall so early in the run, I'm looking at some combination of #1 and #2 being the main culprits. #2 may sound a bit screwy to you, but lots of people go through T2 practically holding their breath. It seems so much easier than T1, but therein lies the trap of rushing too much and not allowing a slight down/rest time as you switch from bike to run. Is there any thought that maybe, just maybe, you romped through it without fully collecting yourself first? I almost always have a more elevated herat rate coming out of T2 than out of T1 (mind you, since I don't use a HRM, this is just perceived). That's #2. For #1, what I'm thinking about is a system of samllish bricks over the next four weeks that would kind of test your response to running off the bike, with the control aspect being in how you finished the bike. The run parts are really just small, no more than is neededto see how your breathing reepsonds in even just the first five mintes after the ride. So, just broadly for now, it could be a rides of, say, 15-20 miles, in which you go full bore until the end, and then another in which you ease up a bit in the final minute or so, and a third in which you ease up in the final mile, and a fourth where your effort becomes hard/eaiser/hard/easier/hard during the final two or three miles -- kind of a "pulse" where at least you are giving yourself some small opportinities to lower your HR some. And then there is my tried-and-true (mostly) tactic of variable effort/gearing over the final mile. Have you seen that here at some point? I think I mnetioned it last week....but that might've been for the other group. Oops? There is also the tactic of starting the run deliberately slow and controlled, even slower than you feel is necessary. Again, let me know asap if you haven't seent his topic here before, or even if you want to hear it again. Bike pace is often key to a good run, but also key to it is not blowing out of T2 too fast; once a dficit is reached, it can be tough to get it back together again (save lots of walking!) Lots of time until your next one, plenty of space in which to experiment. let me know how that proto-plan above sounds to you, and if it makes some sense then we can refine it from there. |
| 2011-06-07 7:20 AM in reply to: #3536065 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED SHANNEN - I beg to differ! Far from being "really bad", your swim was not too far off the mid-point --- 58 total women, 23 with swim times slower than yours. And, your time was closer to the fastest times, as opposed to nudging the slowest times. It's good you have the resolve and determiantion to hit the pool....but don't do it feeling that your swim was "really bad"! Au contraire!  |
| 2011-06-07 4:19 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Yesterday's Weigh In Monday....I gained .8 lbs. Oh well! My body was doing wacky things and holding on to things for the week I did a local Splash & Dash last Thursday. It's a 1500K swim and a 5K run. It was a lot of fun. I missed when the announcer said that the swim was a 2 loop course and I swam to the dock after the 1st loop feeling pretty good. Ha! The guy there said to tell the announcer that I was only swimming 1 loop and I thought oh oh! So I turned around and swam another loop. The best thing about the swim was I was able to get into a cadence and stayed relaxed and sighted pretty well. Each swim is getting better and better, not fast but better! T1 was slow. My hands were pretty cold from the water and I was fumbling. The run was good. A little slow. There were 2 big hills that even the fast boys were walking up. Overall it was a fun time. This is a series that they put on for the summer on both a weekday and a weekend. I'm going to try to do more of them just for the ows experience of swimming with a crowd. Last weekend had some good workouts and this week I'm tapering for my Oly Sunday. The plan I'm following has this as a build week but I'm taking the taper week before my July HIM and using that. I'm always worried when I have to change the plan too much and hope I'm not losing too much fitness build. I'll need all I can get for July because that distance still has me worried. I'm headed back to Arizona next Monday with my middle daughter to move the rest of her stuff home. She got a job here and she's going to live at home for a while to save some $$$. My oldest son is going down to SoCal in the fall to finish a class for graduation but somehow our house just stays full Hope everyone has a great day, Johanne |
Back at it for next weeks weigh in!| 2011-06-07 6:17 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I have a question for you swimmers out there... is it normal to feel like you are swallowing air rather than breathing it into your lungs... I noticed in my swim today that I feel like I am sucking air into my stomach more than breathing it into my lungs... hope that makes sense... Thanks! Alex |
| 2011-06-07 7:42 PM in reply to: #3537835 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED astorm65 - 2011-06-07 6:17 PM I have a question for you swimmers out there... is it normal to feel like you are swallowing air rather than breathing it into your lungs... I noticed in my swim today that I feel like I am sucking air into my stomach more than breathing it into my lungs... hope that makes sense... Thanks! Alex I do it too, then I burp and "stuff" on the bike and run. I think I am breathing too fast-perhaps gulping or gasping for air instead of inhaling. I am focusing on slowing down little |
| 2011-06-07 10:05 PM in reply to: #3537667 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ALEX and JEFF - I haven't had that problem myself, but here's something for you to try -- make like Popeye! So, you know how Popeye pours all the sapinach into just one corner of his mouth? You're trying to emulate what he looks like, when you're turning to breathe. For me, a right-side breather mostly, I would scrunch my mouth way over to the right, leaving just a small opening at the corner into which I inhale. The motion is mostly in your lower jaw, swivelling that to the right while the upper jaw stays still. Practice this in the mirror, and then take it to the pool or the open water -- whicheverr comes first! It just sounds like both of you are really gulping, and if so, then the Popeye mouth will eliminate that -- not enough of an opening to gulp with! Now I can't say why it's going straight down the throughway rather than taking the exit ramps into the lungs, but I'm juts wondering if you're both taking in too much air, and only so much of it can get into the lungs, with the remainder heading into the stomach. URP! There are other breathing nuances that you could try, but for now let's just do one thing at a time. Lewt me know what you think, okay? |
| 2011-06-07 10:12 PM in reply to: #3537667 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOANNE - 0.8? That's just a blip, and anomaly, a mote of dust that drifting onto the scale. You'll be back on the downward trend next week, guaranteed! Good story about the "short" swim at the race! I haven't done that per se, but had a similar experiecne in the sense of needing an announcer to point out that I had exited T2 at the wrong end. That was in '07, when I should've known better, and to make it more zany, I spent no small amount of time before the race wandering around and figuring out the flow of the race. I knew it cold at about 7:30.....and then brain-cramped by the time the bike was done. DOH! Great job from you, though, recovering your composure and going on to have a good, steady swim. You sound very coinfident about that aspect of your game, and it's great to hear someone who actually feels good about their swim. Halleloo! An oly Sunday? Gotta check which one, and where. The excitement builds!! |
| 2011-06-07 10:46 PM in reply to: #3538151 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-06-07 8:12 PM JOANNE - 0.8? That's just a blip, and anomaly, a mote of dust that drifting onto the scale. You'll be back on the downward trend next week, guaranteed! Good story about the "short" swim at the race! I haven't done that per se, but had a similar experiecne in the sense of needing an announcer to point out that I had exited T2 at the wrong end. That was in '07, when I should've known better, and to make it more zany, I spent no small amount of time before the race wandering around and figuring out the flow of the race. I knew it cold at about 7:30.....and then brain-cramped by the time the bike was done. DOH! Great job from you, though, recovering your composure and going on to have a good, steady swim. You sound very coinfident about that aspect of your game, and it's great to hear someone who actually feels good about their swim. Halleloo! An oly Sunday? Gotta check which one, and where. The excitement builds!! Yes, I know weight loss can be sneaky! I'll get there I think since this race was such a relaxed atmosphere and the water was COLD, I couldn't focus on the guy making the pre-race announcement! I'll know next time if I do another in the series. I'm going to try to I think. It was great practice. I'm not sure what's different this year from last in my swim other then I just told myself I can't 'race' the swim. I do better just getting it done stroke by stroke. My speed will pick up later, probably much later Good story about going out the wrong exit. Isn't that our nightmare! My oly Sunday is one of our local races. Actually, I think Dave and I are going to ride our bikes down there it's so close, maybe 4-5 miles. I know the whole course really well and I'm excited to race since I know where and how far I can push on the bike. I'm really hoping that being so familiar with the course will allow me to be a little tougher mentally. It's time to push myself a bit especially by the time I get to the run which is my standard wimp out leg |
| 2011-06-07 11:07 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 244 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I have a 5K charaity race this weekend, using it as a tempo training run. I just found out I can race
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| 2011-06-07 11:14 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 244 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Sorry I have been a ghost for a while I have been really busy on my job hunt but it has been for nothing thus far. Never the less I have returned and with a training vengeance. I have races to prep for!!! |
| 2011-06-08 6:16 AM in reply to: #3538202 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED DANIEL - Glad you're back, but sorry that the job hunt is not turning up gems yet. Keep the faith! Nice schedule you have so far, and the 5km as a tempo run is a great idea. The adrenaline of a race setting just makes the tempo part easier to attain and sustain and maintain. Win-win-win! |
| 2011-06-08 7:19 AM in reply to: #3538183 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOANNE - Knowing a course counts for a LOT, and if knowledge is power, and if part of toughness is been powerful, then ergo-ipso, I think it should definitely help you be mentally tougher. Grrr! I'm not good at listening to pre-race announcements. I've heard so many of them that are filler-and-drivel, that I just tune them out as best I can. So, I miss lots of valuable tidbits, and often ask other competitors at the swim start just what is what. The race I'm doing Saturday is put on by a group that often works in mysterious ways, and over the years they have had some pretty convoluted swim courses. More than once have I arrived at the swim start after the pertinent announcements....and looked at to see a river full of seemingly-random buoys....and had to ask which buoy applies to which distance. You'd think I'd learn to be all eager-eared and attentive, but nooooooooooo! This'll be a race in which I actuallyb plan to "race" the swim. Hahahahahahahahahahaha! It's the one leg I never truly race, just because I have never felt confident that i have that extra gear or two or three. I probably still don't have any of those extra gears in the swim, but I'm going in with a go-for-broke strategy of high(er) turnover and more of an on-demand breathing system........and we'll see where that gets me. Probably still MOP on the swim leg, but at least I'll see if I can get in the top 30% of the swim times. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!! |
| 2011-06-08 7:23 AM in reply to: #3538183 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOHANNE again - I know we've tallked a bit aboutt Yoga, but I continue to be floored by what a weight-loss tool that is. My groin/hip thing has my SBR training volume is down at least 40% over the past two months, and yet I keep losing weight because of all the Yoga. I'm at 169-171 these days, and normally I'm not at this weight until deep into the race season, like mid-August or even a bit beyond. So, it's gotta be either the Yoga, or a tapeworm, or just general shrinkage with age (my last physical had me at 6'2", down an inch from a couple years ago! ). |
| 2011-06-08 9:41 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Daniel, good to hear from you. Keep plugging away. The job market seems to be turning so I'll think positive thoughts for you Steve, I keep saying I'm going to go over to the yoga place close to home. It's literally a 5 min walk away. I think I just need to sign up for a set of classes and then since I'm so cheap, I know I'll go Went to swim this morning and it was a big drill day. Today's drills were not my favorite thing but I muddled through it. Last swim before Sunday! |
| 2011-06-08 9:59 AM in reply to: #3538751 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOHANNE - I'm going to pester you about Yoga, then. It's just one of the services I provide as a Full Service Mentor! Drills are good! Or, some of them are. Well, sometimes....some are....somewhat....good. Seriously, you're a better person for having muddled through them, and arguably they wills erve you better in the long run than another session of unbroken swimming in the pool. And THAT I really believe! Just got back from a hot and hard and fast bike-run brick, and was 167.6. Yikes. I'm glad I didn't do my height; might've seen it at 6'1"! |
| 2011-06-08 10:22 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 663 Central Point | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Steve, Kathy was visiting our daughter last week so I took a yoga class last Thursday after spin class. I discovered... Yoga is HARD. The instructor said I did a good job and commented that I was pretty flexible but sheeshh I was a little sore for a couple days. There were a few things I didn't do (modified) because I was beat from spin class. My preconceived notion of yoga was completely wrong. |
| 2011-06-08 1:37 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey Everyone, been real busy with work the last few days and also my son is playing for the Championship in his Baseball league. Last night the game was suposed to start at 7:15pm, but there was lightening so it did not start until 8:45pm so we had to just sit and wait. Game ended about 10:15pm at night so that messed up my training this morning since I did not get to bed early. I will try and run tonight after my sons game, or I might just skip it since we will not get home until around 9pm and I have to get up at 3am to bike and swim. Good thing is tonight is the last game, if they win they are the Champions, if they lose then they come in 2nd. I hope they win since he is excited about getting a big trophy. Shannen - Yes, I'm very excited that my son has taken up racing and he is loving it. My daughter is very active but she is not a runner. She enjoys swimming and sometimes biking. Maybe I can get her into the aquabike. Alex - Great job on the race. Glad you were able to do the swim and bike. Gene - Great job on the race. I have a big suitcase that I can fit in so can I go on the trip with you. Man Im really jealous, I would love to go over there. Johanne - Great job on the race, I think I would have told the guy I already did 2 laps, Im just that fast. Good luck on your Oly this weekend. Daniel - Good luck on your race, your training for the half and also the job hunting. Steve - Thank you for the tips, I will try the bricks. I still have the instructions you posted on our group about shifting gears and stuff on the last mile of the bike, so if anyone needs it let me know and I will post it. My July race may be scratched due to finance. It's a race that requires me to stay out of town for the night since its a good 3 hour drive and with both kids Bday coming up in July and Aug I might have to hold off. There is another race in Aug that I want to do and its a sprint. It might be better for me to wait anyway to get the run under control since the race in July has a 7 mile run. Hope everyone has a great day |
| 2011-06-08 3:21 PM in reply to: #3537935 |
Veteran 233 Spokane | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Av8rTx - 2011-06-07 5:42 PM astorm65 - 2011-06-07 6:17 PM I have a question for you swimmers out there... is it normal to feel like you are swallowing air rather than breathing it into your lungs... I noticed in my swim today that I feel like I am sucking air into my stomach more than breathing it into my lungs... hope that makes sense... Thanks! Alex I do it too, then I burp and "stuff" on the bike and run. I think I am breathing too fast-perhaps gulping or gasping for air instead of inhaling. I am focusing on slowing down little Oooh, "stuff" doesn't sound good. |
| 2011-06-08 4:56 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Or smell.. Sorry had to post it. |
| 2011-06-08 5:41 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 244 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Just finished a 6 mile run. all was good until about the 4 mile mark, the out side of my knee cap starting hurting. not the outside on me knee the the EDGE of my knee cap. any thoughts? |
| 2011-06-08 7:06 PM in reply to: #3539734 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED CRAIG - There are styles that are much more difficult than others. Ashtanga not only has difficult poses, but it "flows" -- gotta know your stuff AND be able to flow from one pose to the next. I am not at all close to being ready for "prime-time" Ashtanga. Power and Bikram are also tough, and Hatha isn't all that far behind them. At the easier end is anything with "gentle" used as an adjective, and also Yin and Shanti. The only hard part to Yin is that the poses are held for 3-5 minutes, but none of them are overly athletic or gymnastic; it just requires "settling" into each pose. I am terrible at any standing front bends, but can fold in some cases when one the mat. I am quite good at inversions, though, and somewhere in the middle are twists and back bends. I have literally done abouut 70 classes (75-90 minutes each) since about March 17, and am actually improving. However, I'm working through some minor back issues due to Yoga, and tjat gets added to the other few things that are wrong with me theses days/weeks/months. Bah. But I love it, REALLY love it, can't truly get enough of it. And I never saw this coming! |
| 2011-06-08 7:07 PM in reply to: #3539814 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - STILL haven't forgotten your Yoga questions from 2/3 weeks ago! |
| 2011-06-08 7:09 PM in reply to: #3539816 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED DANIEL - Outer edge of the actual kneecap? Don't know about that, but if it's on the outside of your leg adjacent to the kneecap, that would be the illiotibial band. Any chance it's ITB area? |
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