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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 50andgettingfit - 2011-06-10 7:42 AM astorm65 - 2011-06-10 6:42 AM I hope that everyone racing this weekend has an awesome race!! I am doing the TriFitness Sprint... I am quite nervous about the swim. It is in the Long Island Sound, my last swim was in a lake. I guess I am just worried about the currents and the swim is a 1/2 mile vs 1/4 mile. I guess I am feeling under prepared! I don't see any time limits on anything but all of the women are in the last wave and I guess I am worried about not finishing the swim before the allowed time! You'll have a great race! One stroke after another. Get yourself into a rhythm and swim buoy to buoy and pretty soon you'll be done "Swim Buoy to Buoy" I like that! I'm going to remember it. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good Morning Everyone... Steve - Like always Your ROCK... Nice time and look forward to the report. Jeff - You have a profile picture now, Yeahhh.. Hey great job on the run, you are really kicking in your time, keep up the good work. 70 mile bike ride after a 5k, dang man you are Awesome. Ellen - Good luck on your race today. You are the only one left in the group with no Profile Pic, we need a profile pic Please.. Johanne - Good luck at your race tomorrow. Alex- how did your race go yesterday? David - How did you race go yesterday? I guess Im the only one that did not race this weekend. Man I feel all alone. Have a great day and I look forward to hearing about everyone race.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GENE - For those of us who are sometimes challenged by the "straight line" principle while swimming OWS, the concept of "swim buoy to buoy" is not necessarily as easy as it sounds! ![]() ![]() I will try to find some photos I recently saw of a swim course in central New York, I think it was. I shall return! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GENE again - Wanna see the sweetest line of buoys you can imagine? Go to www.ithacatriathlonclub.org, and immediately the slide show will start, with the first two photos being of the buoy line. Mighty fine! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GEORGE - Yeah you is right! That PR isa a whoppin' 28 seconds, which if you extend it to a sprint tri would give you 45+ seconds of improvement on the run leg alone. That's the kind of time gain that most of us would kill for, so you have every reason to savor it! Good plan as you start into the 3 miles, going 3/1. Spend some time exploring those edges some, and then you can start to crank it up, maybe in mini-surges. Cool beans! Getting back to your July race and the possibility (probability?) that you will miss it, a few days ago I said to justify that in tersm of having more training time. Even though I mean that, I don't want to downplay the importance and enjoyment that racing seems to have for you. You only have to see the huge volume of racing i do most seasons to realize how important that is to me, so I empathize with whatever angst you may feel at missed races. I could also regale you with a list of all the races I have had to bail on over the years, telling you honestly that virtually all of them were difficult decisions that weighed on me right through race day (I'm usually fine again a day or two post-race). BUT!! If you have the chance to watch your kids while they're still kids, that's what will matter several years further along when they are no longer kids....and you'll wonder where those glorious years went. I'm just sayin'! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JEFF - Thanks! I missed yours from yesterday, and only clued into it when George posyted about your photo. You did well with 3.3, even with the coffee supplementing and those miles the day before. I guess what you did kind of treated yesterday's race as a "C"-priority, meaning you didn't adjust anything in your training plan to accommodate it. Well, that's one def of what makes a "C" race what it is, and using it as a certain type of stepping-stone towards Branson makes perfect sense. FWIW, I usually try to highlight one specific area to address in a "C" race. Yesterday it was the swim and using a huigher trunover rate, but my leaky goggles and the mass of 183 people starting together on a narrow course killed that hope. So, I went through the rest of the race being an inwardly miserable cuss, not really enjoying the event at all. For a running race only, though, it would be harder to target a specific -- especially when the "A" race Branson is a sea change in difference. I guess I'fd just play around with cadence ---- although that's real easy for me to say as cadencework is my default position in most of my runs! Great ride yesterday, and thank the powers what be for the Dr. Pepper. I amy ahve siad this before, but flat cola, served on the run course of HIM and IM., is divine. The only trick to it is to make sure that once you start using it, you don't stop. If you do -- SUGAR CRASH!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Enjoy your Next Big Training Day....which is today! Ride, mow, run -- sounds like a plan! Who's that in the photo with you? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PRE-REPORT "Events For Everyone" is how the organization bills its events, and yesterday was an over-the-top example of how they accomplish their mandate. All of the above happened within a 5-hour span yesterday morning (and into early afternoon), with race type named first, then participant numbers. sprint tri -- 183 oly tri -- 116 super-sprint tri -- 53 try-a-tri -- 76 sprint teams -- 5 oly teams -- 3 try-a-tri teams -- 5 long duathlon -- 18 swim-cycle -- 6 canoe tri -- 4 canoe tri teams -- 5 kayak tri -- 8 kayak tri teams -- 1 5km run -- 171 3km run -- 81 1km kids run -- 66 Is that enough crowd-control/space-management for you?? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Micro Mini Race Report! 16 min PR More later! We're off for massages this afternoon and then I get back in the truck tomorrow for a quick turn around trip to Arizona to pick up the rest of my daughters stuff and move it back home. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JOHANNE - You're going to leave us with that COLOSSAL teaser?!? You....you....tease, you! That is practically off the charts. like, few people manage that degree of improvement even ovee the course of several whacks at the same race, same course. Brilliant, Johanne --- and now just hurry with some details! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Race photos? Up already! Go to www.zoomphoto.ca, then click on Ottawa River Tri/Du, and my number was 167. The bike ones are okay, although I don't remember actually grinning goofily at the photographer. Hmmm. I hope I don't walk down the street smiling unknowingly like that! The run ones are a mixed bag. The undeexposed ones are form just into the run, while the others -- on the stupid grass!!!! -- are approaching the finish. I HATE RUNNING ON GRASS!!! But, i survived it, with no sprianed ankles or anything else untoward. Maybe I should stop being such a big baby! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok, a few more details and then I'm going to bed. I'm tired! Just for some backround-last year I only did 1 Oly. It was a new area, ie. I hadn't trained there before. I had a goggle issue and swam with my head out of the water and I was riding a hybrid bike. Overall it was a good race for the first time but those helped make it a little slow. Time 4:01:52 This year I did one in Arizona with my new road bike which made a big difference. It was really hot and my run was slow. Time 3:36:43 So now with this race, it's my home turf. I ride/run the course all the time and that gave me some points. Also, with the road bike I could go faster. Plus, I'm 1 year fitter We got to the park at 5:30, set up, hung around with friends/family, etc. My wave went off at 7:27 so I had plenty of time to relax. The swim was a 2 loop course. I warmed up for the swim and all was good. My last 3 Open Water swims have been great. Today, the first 2/3 of the first loop were bad! I couldn't catch my breath and I was feeling a little panic-y. The conversation in my head was hilarious. I gave myself a good talking to! I finally settled down and the rest of the first loop and the second were much better. T-1 was ok. The bike was great for me today. This was the first race where I was passing people. I knew where I could push and it was very fun. I rode according to my plan and I had a good time. I'm slowly getter faster Here are my times: Swim 1500m-42:16 T-1 3:16 Bike 40K-1:29:30 T-2 2:52 Run 10K-1:02:54 Overall 3:20:48 It was a fun, fun day! There are so many things to think about with tri's that I just want to do more. My HIM in July is still a little intimidating. I've decided that I'm going to make a plan for that race but I'm going to include just enjoying the first time experience and see what I can do Goodnight! Johanne |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Johanne, That is very impressive. Your times are terrific. Congratulations. Ellen |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JOHANNE - Great account.....and I'm glad I pestered you to do it sooner than later! ![]() It's a good overall story of your evolution -- in training, in experience, in equipment, in confidence. It could be a casebook example of how the once-daunting can fairly quickly become the quite-attainable. Which brings us to Vineman, and all I'll say is that with five weeks until the race you have decent time to rub some rough edges of those jagged intimidation feelings. Yes, half-irons can be intimidating and you're at least smart in feeling some elements of respect for the distance, as opposed to not being at all realistic about it. What will really help you at Vineman is your experience at distance running, and even though pacing changes some once you put 1.2 miles of swimming and 56 miles of cycling in front of it, you have the added benefit of knowing what it feels like to go well beyond 13.1 miles on your feet. So! Spend a few days basking in the glow of what you just accomplished, and then settle into the final 33 days or so of prep for Vineman. Lots of time, no pressure!! "Home-field" advantage is fun, isn't it? I haven't had many of those, but what counts similarly is to do the same race a few times; thta I've done a fair bit. It just helps to know where turns are, smal climbs, potholes, whatever. I think your bike time shos that you know that course quite well! ![]() ![]() Your mental game for running and fueling was excellent, and I hope you have a 99% fail-safe solution to how to do triathlon runs (or maybe any runs). Your strategy will definitely help you at Vineman, where (a) fueling at every aid station is critical, (b) walking through an aid station is the best way to ensude that your drink more than you slosh, (c) walking gives you a better chance to "shop" for hidden gems (banana parts, bite-size Snickers, etc) at the tables, and (d) walking briskly through an aid station is hardly slower than shuffling along, if a shuffle is what your body is ordering you to do. As for that walking crutch, I think you have probably Tiny-Timmed it for almost good. As you progress through triathlons I am sure you will be reduced to walking at times (see shuffle reference in point "d" above, and ratchet up the misery quotient a notch or two ![]() ![]() And then, of course, you're just going to keep improving, which is the nature of the training critter. Work hard, get better. Work hard, get better. Work hard, get better. It's so easy when you know how! ![]() ![]() Hope you had a great sleep - you earned it! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK... I am embarrassed to admit this but I missed my event this weekend! I over slept, missing my alarm. I didn't realize when I scheduled this race that my friends would be in from Seattle this weekend so Saturday/Saturday night was a very long one... I feel really stupid but it has been done so I need to plan better for next weekend... I have the TargetTraining Sherwood Island Sprint on Sunday morning. No late nights for me on Saturday... Sounds like everyone had a good weekend of racing... I am jealous Hope everyone has a great week! Alex |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ALEX - Well, that explains THAT! I went to the website this morning and got the results....but no you, anywhere. I was thinking it was like last week, where you stopped after the bike and they didn't post the partial results, but that was hard to tell as there weren't partial results for anyone, and also no list of DNF (did not finish). I then started to worry that you'd hurt yourself somehow, and so was a bit anxious when I went to your post here. So! All you did was oversleep! That's painless enough! ![]() On the painless front, though, that's great about the MRI coming back clean. WHEW!!! Any physio work should help your knee problems, and some combination of medicines will likley make the arthritic tendencies more tolerable. You might want to go to www.injurybegone.com and look at the knee systems they have. many of their products are excellent, and if you see something that fits your symptoms, ask your physio ace if it would help; if yes, order it! And as for Sherwood Island, I'll be happy to give you a wake-up call so you get there for it Wake-up calls are just one of the services I provide as a Full Service Mentor! ![]() ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2011-06-13 11:28 AM ALEX - Well, that explains THAT! I went to the website this morning and got the results....but no you, anywhere. I was thinking it was like last week, where you stopped after the bike and they didn't post the partial results, but that was hard to tell as there weren't partial results for anyone, and also no list of DNF (did not finish). I then started to worry that you'd hurt yourself somehow, and so was a bit anxious when I went to your post here. So! All you did was oversleep! That's painless enough! ![]() ![]() ![]()
THANKS STEVE! I may need that wake up call. I am thinking that I need to start training in the morning so I am just used to getting up at that time... I was so bummed when I awoke at 5:30 am to the realization that I totally missed my race. I needed to be at the race site before 5:45 (at least) and it was an hour and half away from my house so I just totally blew it! Alex |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ALEX - In all seriousness ( I think....), let me know! I actually did that for someone in a group two years ago --- and it worked! In that case I just let the phone ring three times (per her instructions) and then hung up. I'm an early bird anyhow, so....... Two of my three races this year I have been the first athlete there, and that's consistent with how it's been the past 11 seasons of triathloning. I really do think I've been first at least half of the 105 +/- races I've done, and amongst the first five or so for another 25-30. It seems important to me to get one of the best parking spots, and the same for transition spots if they aren't assigned. Gotta capitalize on my strengths, and one of them is generally being very functional very early in the morning. I'm far less useful from about 11-2, which I guess is when my systems start rebelling against having gotten up so early! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JEFF - 14 hours will do that to you! When you say another hard week, is that referring only to training plans, or job and other commitments as well? If it's training, at this stage you can afford to back-off some if you're feeling some effects. Overtraining is a very real problem, and it can be insidious. It can often begin with tiredness, and then affect your interest in doing the workouts. That might be the best sign for you, as I think you generally really enjoy knocking off the miles and hours. So if you get to the point where you lose interest in doing workouts, heed that and take some time off. I need to check -- Branson is maybe Sept 12, or Sept 18? If so, you still have a pile of time ahead of you, and you are way overdistance in your bike training already. I think you're nicely ahead of schedule for both the swim and the run, meaning that for people who are training for their first half-iron, they would not yet be close to the miles that you are amassing. I say that just so you don't have qualms about taking some down time as needed. And I haven't even mentioned yet how heavy training can affect the immune system! ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ELLEN - I see that your dedicated swimming seems to have paid off in a pretty significant time improvement over last year, and the bike time looks quite decent as well. Sooooooo..........how're ya feeling? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stevebradley - 2011-06-13 12:28 PM JEFF - 14 hours will do that to you! When you say another hard week, is that referring only to training plans, or job and other commitments as well? If it's training, at this stage you can afford to back-off some if you're feeling some effects. Overtraining is a very real problem, and it can be insidious. It can often begin with tiredness, and then affect your interest in doing the workouts. That might be the best sign for you, as I think you generally really enjoy knocking off the miles and hours. So if you get to the point where you lose interest in doing workouts, heed that and take some time off. I need to check -- Branson is maybe Sept 12, or Sept 18? If so, you still have a pile of time ahead of you, and you are way overdistance in your bike training already. I think you're nicely ahead of schedule for both the swim and the run, meaning that for people who are training for their first half-iron, they would not yet be close to the miles that you are amassing. I say that just so you don't have qualms about taking some down time as needed. And I haven't even mentioned yet how heavy training can affect the immune system! ![]() This week will just nudge over 14. I had two consecutive nights of interrupted sleep-only a few hours each and I think that is where my malaise originates from. Today is scheduled as a "rest" day so I'll probably just take the dog for a short 1 mile jog and call it a night. I am ahead of the plan I picked for Branson but I modified the bike time for a couple of Centuries in August as well as that December Marathon. I have shortened my long runs to the 7-9 mile range for now per plan. The workouts still interest me however yesterday's swim never really got going well. I was distracted by "life" and personal issues, was hoping a long swim would be a refuge. https://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/cableone.net/render?tab=mc&AuthEventSource=SSO |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Gang! Just checking in after the race this weekend. Well...I finished. But I was about 8 minutes off of my goal time (thanks in large part to the swim). Here is a quick breakdown and when I have a chance I will put together a race report with all the gory details: Swim (820yds): 23:02 (2:49/100) T1: 2:56 Bike (17 miles): 57:17 (17.8mph) T2: 2:14 Run (3.1 miles): 25:39 (8:16min/mile) Given the numbers above my goal time was lost in the swim and transition area. I beat my goal on the bike (17.5mph) and again improved my run goal (8:30min/mile) even more than from the last race. I was really happy with this as this was a trail run...lots of little climbs, roots, sand, traffic, etc to navigate. Plus don't mention when the cramps started kicking in around mile 2...but I pushed through and persevered. I'm still frustrated with my swim....never could get in a rhythmn...always felt out of breath and resorted to sculling on my back alot more than I wanted to just to regain my composure. I think it is just a mental thing with me that I need to work on. I know I can swim the distance....just gotta get over the fear I guess. Otherwise it was a fun race, but I've got a lot of work to do. My race on July 23 was cancelled so they are offering free entry into another sprint on July 17 which means I only have 5 weeks to prep for that...but I am going to do it and try to conquer this OW swim for good. I hope everyone had great races this past weekend and for those who didn't race...I hope the training is still going well! I'll be interested to hear some feedback from you Coach Steve when you have a moment....maybe your "Zen-ness" can help me conquer my OW shortcomings! David |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Steve, When I go to the web site there are no results posted. I had a major foot problem at about mile 50 on the bike. I considered not doing the run but I figured I had to finish wha tI started. It got worse during the run and I limped the whole time. I finished and that was the goal. I have not seen any times but the swim was all over the place but my goggles did not fog up so that was bette?r (I guess your good thoughts paid off)??. I followed a raft pretty much the whole time so I had to give way at the turns. I thought that was expected. It was still better than last year. The bike was very windy. Why is it that if you have a head wind you never have a tail wind? I mean NEVER!!! The run was hot and I was having trouble anyway with a "hitch in my gitalong" as I have previously stated. But is was what it was and I got home last night and showed up for work on time today. All is well, I will think about Nations' s tomorrow (as Scarlett once said). But maybe on Wednesday. Good night. Ellen
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DAVID - I can hear your disappointment, but I see two things: a real positive in your run being at a way better pace on a more difficult course, and the overall positive perspective you have about the swim. Reading between the lines about that, there is more frustration than lack of confidence, or even abject fear, and of course that is very good. My quick answer for now is that all you need is one decent race swim (or maybe even just one very decent OWS training swim), and that should get you over the hump. I will return within a day or two with other OWS thoughts -- nothing too profound, but hopefully helpful. As for five weeks before your next sprint, that should be plenty of time. Your run work seems to be very much where you want it, and the bike speed/pace looks good. (Where exactly do you want that to be?) As for transition times, you don't sound happy with them but they look reasonable to me. (Mind you, that's coming from the perspective of my just-done race, where the distances between legs and t-zone were inordinately long!) And then the swim. Well, we'll get you there! Stay tuned! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ELLEN - I found the results at the ironman website, looking through the Eagleman athlete tracking feature. that was still up yesterday, and in fact several years are still there. You can do it by name alone and get your results along with other people's who have a name similar to Miller, or you can do it through the gender/age filter and get the a.g. list. Looking at results from people I know, I wondered about the bike being windy this year, as several people I know of had slower times this year compared with last year. So, your comment explains that!! And you're right about the featurs of the wind, where more often than not they seem to taketh away far more than they giveth! I am worried about the foot......so, how is it? I don't like seeing the word "major" used, and only hope it has now downgraded itself to "minor". Can you describe it in any detail? Please let me know how it's doing today! Finally, congrats on gutting that one out. Beyond that, try not to dwell on it for a while; let it all settle down some before you start navel-gazing, okay? |
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