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 2011-07-04 9:55 PM in reply to: #3579824 |
Champion  10618   |  Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDELLEN once more - Your salad sounds terrific, and if there are leftovers please freeze them and then bring it to Nations where I will gladly eat it as a post-race feast. As you know, quinoa is a great source of protein, one of several that fly under the protein radar. (Tempeh and seitan are another couple in the same category.) Are you vegetarian? I was, from late '03 until maybe mid '06, at which point I just got beaten down by the cooking demands. It's also a nuisance to find adequate eateries when traveling to races, and many was the time I subsisted on pasta and salads and breads while on the road. Not that that's all that bad, but just kind of tiresome after a while. THE WORLD'S BEST COOKBOOK, vegetarian or otherwise, is "Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone", by Deborah Madison. I have cooked dozens of things from it, with NO duds - her recipes are infallible. It is massive (742 pages), and expensive ($40USD), but farfarfar and away worth every pound and penny. It is published by Broadway Books. To bed with me now, saving cadence stuff until tomorrow. G'night! |
| 2011-07-05 8:49 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371  Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Good Morning Everyone, I hope everyone had a great 4th of July weekend and is feeling great. I did a ride on Saturday with some friends I met through my Tri group that I joined. It was a good 30 mile easy ride which I really needed. Since my back was acting up I really have not done much in 2 weeks, but all is good now. There was 4 of us riding, 2 of the guys are 20mph riders so me and Anne the wife of one of the speedy guys. Well in the 30 mile ride she told me that she and her husband and stepson along with several members of our Tri Group are doing IronMan Florida in Nov 2012. Well once the ride was over I have come to say I Will Do IMFL in 2012. We decided that next year we will train together and also during the race we will stay together to support and push eachother along to make sure we both cross the finish line in plenty of time. I signed up to volunteer for IMFL 2011 in Nov so I have a 4 months to start saving for the entry fee. Yesterday was my last long ride until Nations is over with. I did a 53.4 mile bike ride with a friend and we decided to take the nice rolling hills route. I need to turn down the bike mileage to more of a sprint distance and start working on the speed since I know I can do the distance. I hope eveyone has a great day today. |
| 2011-07-05 11:24 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Member 42 Ohio | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend!!! Well I squeaked in under the 30 min mark on my 5k with a 29:51!!! I'll take it!! My first 2 miles were great, third mile... not so much, my back muscles were really tight that morning so I got there early and did a lot of warm-up and stretches but by mile 3 it was really starting to tighten up again. I have been trying to ramp-up my running to get in a few longer running races and I think I over did it last week. I have a tri coming up this next weekend and not a whole lot of training time to spare this week... so we'll just chalk it up to a practice tri!! Then looks like no tri's for the rest of July, hopefully I'll be able to squeeze in a couple running races though!!!  Happy training!!! Shannen |
| 2011-07-05 11:44 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Several pages back I commented on the poor contents of packets recently. This weekend was an exception; Amongst the usual stuff in my packet was; 1. Water bottle, 2 map AND cue sheet, 3 $15 gift certificate to a bike shop in Wichita Falls, 4. coupon for a free Dairy Queen snack, 5.ticket for free breakfast, 6 Hand sanitizer (?) and ............a $30 bicycle computer! These were random things, my friend had handlebar tape, some others had other little goodies. The girl doing packet pick up went to some pains to explain what a cue sheet was, this amused me so I let her. |
| 2011-07-05 4:59 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
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| 2011-07-05 5:09 PM in reply to: #3581938 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED gdsemiller - 2011-07-05 4:59 PM Ok Jeff what is a cue sheet? Shannen - awesome job on the 5K.. Usually comes with a map, a list of each turn in sequence. Typically in columns with distance from last turn and total distance or distance remaining. Basically "cues" to make a turn. Long rides or very complicated rides will have a cue sheet. Randonees, long cross country tours etc. |
| 2011-07-05 5:16 PM in reply to: #3580847 |
Elite 3067 Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED gdsemiller - 2011-07-05 8:49 AM Good Morning Everyone, Well once the ride was over I have come to say I Will Do IMFL in 2012. We decided that next year we will train together and also during the race we will stay together to support and push eachother along to make sure we both cross the finish line in plenty of time. GEORGE! You are inspiring! |
| 2011-07-05 6:15 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 663 Central Point | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Swami George what was the time you called for Shannen the other day I know it was close to the time she did. Wow an Ironman way to go. Shannen Great Job on the 5k Edited by ckallpoints 2011-07-06 9:55 AM |
| 2011-07-05 9:37 PM in reply to: #3581217 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED SHANNEN - Yes! You did it! BIG congrats on getting that monkey off your back, and I guess you can now eye a new PR to shoot for. Maybe I shouldn't've said "back", seeing as how your own back is ailing you. I seem to think I sghould have soime suggestions on running throuigh back aches...but right now I can't think of anything. Hmm. I WILL say, however, that often swimming relieves my back problems. When I swim woith a sore back, I try to really extend my stroke, lengthening my body as much as I can. I like to think that is sort of a counter-activity to how things normally are, with the weight of the upper body compressing wherever in my back I am bothered. With that thought in mind, here's my plan: enjoy a good, therapeutic swim at the tri this coming weekend, and then on the bike work at lengthening yourself as much as your bike allows it. That'll set you up for an ache-free run, to be sure. Voila! What is the distance of the run, by the way? |
| 2011-07-05 10:00 PM in reply to: #3580847 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED GEORGE - Sounds like a plan, and now what you might want to think about is doing a half-iron before IMFL in November, just so you know what those longewr distances feel like and how some of your problem areas (shin and back, is all?) respond. I was going to suggest Augusta 70.3, but thta's too close to Nations and wouldn't give you enough training time. One you might want to look at is Beach2Battleship, which I think is the last weekend of October. That would work well to train off of Nations for, with 6 or 7 weeks to ramp up the mileage. The website might be www.beach2battleship.com, or it can be gotten to through the roundabout of www.setupevents.com. It happens out of Wilmington, NC. I will also look into other late-season half-irons within spittin' distance of you. Here's a heartfelt thought, though --- don't commit to staying with each other throughout the race! Training together and supporting each other up to the race is a great idea, but trying to cohese (?) even with one other person over 140.6 miles is well-nigh impossible, let alone with another one or two or three people. It is so easy to get separated on the swim alone, and then the myriad things that can undermine a 112-mile bike and a 26.1-mile run just make it exponentially more difficult. I have heard tales of people trying just what you are suggesting, and the potential for it messing with one's head is huge. It is hard enough to keep one's own s--- together over 140.6 miles, let alone having to worry about one or two or three or more other people. I'm just sayin'! I'm gald that you've done your last over-distance ride for Nations and will now settle back to more oly-appropriate distances. Doing that will just help the race that mmuch more, whereas the mileage you have put in over the past few months will serve as big confidence-builders for any longer races (HIM or IM) you are considering in the future. So, bank those babies and let them accrue cosmic interest! Just curious as to what IMFL will cost for 2012. I know the new one at Mont Tremblant, Quebec, will be $675, but then I have seen $625 for St. George and $650 for IMTX. There doens't seem to be any consistent pricing, does there?!? I think when I did Lake Placid in "04 it was $450, and maybe $425, so these things are climbing in cost at an alarming rate. It is mostly too rich for my blood nowadays, especially when I fear having to bail due to injuries. I mean, had I signed up last July for IMLP in three weeks, I would've had to bail. I think I would've gotten back $150 had I bailed by June 1st or so, but no more than that. Lynn hates ut when I bail on $80 races, and she'd throttle me if I ate about $500 of a race fee!   They're buggers about it. The races clsoe out in minutes, and for the life of me I don't know why they can't /won't set up wait lists. Such a list could easily accommodate 300 people who could take the palce of the 300-plus who never make it to thet start. That would make lots of people very happy, bioth those who wanted into the race and those who needed to get out and could use the better part of the entry fee were it refunded. But NOOOOOOOOOO! Sorry for the digression/rant; I guess i have some issues to deal with!  |
| 2011-07-05 10:05 PM in reply to: #3581257 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - Interesting SWAG! How many people were walking around trying to trade with someone else? (Or, how many people ran up to the RD complaing about how come she got the computer and all I got was the handlebar tape?) And, do you plan to travel to Wichita Falls to use the bike shop's offer? That would be about 1:30 to 2:00 for you, maybe? W.F. was considered a hellhole when I was there, but my one time through it saw it not looking as bad as its reputation made it out to be. Has it matured rather nicely over the past 23 or so years? Edited by stevebradley 2011-07-05 10:06 PM |
| 2011-07-06 9:32 PM in reply to: #3580479 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - Oh! Cadence! I almost forgot! Do you know what your gearing was when you were at 90? I'm assuming small ring in front and one of the two or three larger cogs in back; am I getting warm? At any rate, it is good that you had it at 90, as now you know what it feels like to get your legs going at that speed. At this point, there are a couple of things you can do: (1) increase the amount of time you spend at 90, regardless of gearing (2) make the gearing tougher by moving to a smaller-sized cog in back, and just work at hitting 90 there Both of these will make you hurt, after a certain amount of time. The ultimate trick here is to combine both of the above for as long as possible; that is, increase time spent at 90, and get so you can do 90 in many different gearings. When things hurt, you can work at "spurts" or "surges". This is when you run out of steam and the legs/lungs start to hurt, and then you back off briefly before picking it right back up again. I use those two terms interchangeably, but they really mean two different things to me. A "spurt" happens when I'm hurting, and need the breif respite in order to get back up to speed (as it were). A "surge", however, is when I feel in complete control, and use the respite just as a way to summon even more on the next hard effort phase. In time, a neat exercise is to find an area full of rollers, and aim to stay at 90+ whether going up or down. To do this, you will need to be quick with your gear shifts, and be willing to "be all over" your shifters. Most peole don't even begin to utilize their gearing fully, and it's almost a shame to have 18 or 20 gears at one's disposal....and then rely on just a handful of those. A secondary trick, but really related to much of the above, is the goal of increasing your power (wattage) while having a high cadence. As this develops for you, you will feel it in that you always (on falts and rollers) will feel resistance agaisnt which you are pedalling. Many people kind of back off that "edge", but that's where the speed ultimately comes from. (In a similar sense, it workls this way with swimming -- each "pull" needs to be felt as force applied to the water, as opposed to just allowing your hands and arms to follow the path of least resistance through the water. That is energy-saving, to be sure, but hardly the best way to swim fast. I speak from expereince here, as too often I do not work hard enough to apply anything even close to maximum force agaisnt the water with each pull. End of digresssion!!) Doing the above cycling stuff takes time, so don't expect to be a proficient high-cadence rider who can use a wide range of gears. My former coach told me that it takes at least five years of serious riding before one becomes a good cyclist, and that was about the timeframe for me; actually, six years was more like it! Hope some of the above helps! |
| 2011-07-06 10:19 PM in reply to: #3582318 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-07-05 10:05 PM JEFF - Interesting SWAG! How many people were walking around trying to trade with someone else? (Or, how many people ran up to the RD complaing about how come she got the computer and all I got was the handlebar tape?) And, do you plan to travel to Wichita Falls to use the bike shop's offer? That would be about 1:30 to 2:00 for you, maybe? W.F. was considered a hellhole when I was there, but my one time through it saw it not looking as bad as its reputation made it out to be. Has it matured rather nicely over the past 23 or so years?
I didn't notice much complaining or swapping but maybe. I got the gift cert for registering early I found out. My number was 55. The bike shop has a web site I will check out later. I am planning to do the Hotter n Hell this year. I've done it maybe 6-7 times in years past so it will be interesting to go back. WF is about 100 miles away so I did contemplate riding out there on Friday like we used to do from McKinney. Most of my memories of WF were of basically a bike city or tent city populated by 10,000 cyclists, but it did have a seedy, oil patch edge to it. The Falls that gave it the name have been restored and some effort near down town had been made. I'm guessing the oil rigs are pretty active right now bringing some much needed cash flow to the area in addition to traffic esp trucks etc. |
| 2011-07-07 6:40 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
| Member 179 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Shannen, Great job on the time. That is my goal also. Jeff, Cool stuff. I never got a computer. I did get 2 hats which were identical except for the race loges at Columbia adn Eagleman this year. They were white and vented so I actually wore one an saved my scalp at Eagleman. Steve, I am not a vegetarian but a vegetarian wanna be. It is too hard and I leve with 2 carnivores. I have DEborah Madison's cookbook and I use it sometimes. I Will have to look into it again. What are your favorites? They did eat my salad and seemed to like it. I also like the Moosewood Lowfat Cookbook. They have a good quinuoa recipe also. Thanks for the advice on cadence. I will try what you suggested and see what happens. What about running cadence? Why are they both 90? Is it related? George, An ironman? WOW! I must say that even when on the bike at Eagleman (HIM) I was thinkng that riding twice as far would take a whole lot of hours on the bike training. And then an marathon. I just have a hard time thinking what that would be like for me. I see the pros get off their bikes and take off looking pretty fresh so it is possible. Maybe someday but not soon. Good luck, we'll be watching and routing for you. Got to go to work. Ellen |
| 2011-07-07 10:10 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey all, how do you become a faster swimmer... I am just stuck. I am consistent but can't seem to gain speed. I think part of the problem is when I try to increase my cadence my form goes all to hell... ARRRGGG.. it is so frustrating. I am swimming consistently 2:10 min / 100yds over the 1/2 mile distance. I know that my core is too weak and I probably should do more strength training, is it good to do that through the season or should I focus on that more post season? Any advice would be awesome! Thanks! |
| 2011-07-07 11:03 PM in reply to: #3584595 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ALEX - I have a few thoughts on getting faster in the water........but remember, I'm the guy who has languished on the same swim plateau for about a decade now! ....... ? First, it might not be such a bad thing that you're stuck, because it will give you some more time to work on your technique, making sure it's as error-free as possible. That may sound facetious, but it's not. It's good, too, that you seem aware of when your form is falling apart, and to your huge credit it sounds as if you have backed off any speed experiements as soon as that (form falling apart) happens. In my own infinite dopery, I pushed too fast to try to swim too fast, with the result being that I successfully implanted any number of bad habits, which haunt me still. Waaaahhhh! Second, there are a few things you can examine about yourself and your technique, and epending on what you find you can have some areas on which to work judiciously. So, I guess I will list a few of them here and now. (1) When you swim, do you sense any "dead spots", that is, brief moments in each stroke cycle when your forward momentum is slightly decreased? For a lot of people, it is the interlude when one hand is extended, but hasn't begun the pull phase, while the other hand has exited the water and is providing no propulsion of its own. Let me know if you sense any dead spots. (2) How hard do you kick....and do you think it helps? If the answers are "fairly" and "not really", respectively, then do a littl;e test for me. Sit on the floor with your back supported by a wall, and stretch your legs straight out with the backs of them pressing the floor. Now, try to point your toes to the opposite wall, and see how successful you are at this. If you can do it, you have good plantar flexion and thus have the ability to affect a decent good. If your toes won;t point to that far wall without your legs trying to lift off the floor, then your plantar flexion might not allow you to kick truly effectively. This is because your feet will mostly point straight to the bottom of the pool or lake, and act more like a rudder than an ewfficient flutterer. The other way to think of plantar flexion is that it's what ballerinas do so well when they have to go "en pointe". Let me know how your ankle flexion is (mine is poor, and I am a dorsiflexer -- not good for swim kicking purposes!) (3) Do you have a sense as to how high your elbows are while you're pulling? Try to figure this out, and that's really just seeing whether or not you have a good bend in your elbow as you start the catch and pull. Mnay people suffer from "dropped" elbows during the pull, and thus lose a huge amount of pulling ability as their hand and forearm no longer function as a powerful lever. (4) Related to #3, do you feel that your hand/arm kind of "slide" through the water, as opposed to pushing against it? While the sliding is easier, it is also much slower. There are ways to improve this, but for me it's been a very looooong journey to do so! (5) What is your cadence for one length of a 25m or 25yd pool. Count both hands as they enter, and let me know. many people have a very slow cadence, and that can lead to dead spots -- especially if their kick is poor (See me raise my habnd about this one!) There is much to be said for energy efficiency in having a low stroke count, but I really think it has to be balanced with a consistent and steady propulsive kick; otherwise, beware the dead spots! I have asked a bunch of questions there, but while you're doing thr research and composing the answers, play around with speed over very short distances. i'm thinking for isolated 25m lengths, or ebven less -- maybe just half a pool-length. This will be enough to give you a sense of what might work, without running a serious risk of losing good parts of your form. And, of course, each of the fast(er) efforts should be split from the next by several lengths of your tried-and-true "good" form -- just to keep those muscle memories intact. So, what to play with? Try increasing your cadence. If you find you do 22 strokes per length, try 23 or 24 and see how that feels. Alos, try to alter your pull so that you are utilizing your bast pulling surface -- that would be the hand and forearm as one contiguous fulcrum. which can only happen when the elbow is hig during the pull. Do you ever do the "fist drill"? This is when you make fists and swim without opening them. Do them just one or two lengths at a time, and your focus should be on feeling the ater against your forearms, which is about the right amount of pressure you should be feeling when you swim normally, but effectively-normally. It's late, and I've rambled lots, and hopefully some of the above will make sense to you. If not, PLEASE ask me to explain it again!! |
| 2011-07-08 7:23 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Thanks Steve, I will think about your question and research some of them for answers... Anyone racing this weekend? I have another sprint on Sunday morning... Mossman in CT. I am excited for it as my knee is feeling a bit better so hopefully the run won't cause as much problems as it has in the past, though I haven't done any real running, just elliptical work... have to wait and see how it goes!
Good luck to all racing and training! Alex |
| 2011-07-08 8:28 AM in reply to: #3586071 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ALEX - Coo beans! Mossman has a very good repuattion, so I'm figuring they'll deliver for you! Nice discipline on doing the elliptical while the knee has healed/improved. i used to be terrible at rushing back after injury setbacks, but the past bunch of years have seen me get wiser. In fact, with longer layoffs in which I have been cleared, I often wait a day or two beyond clearance just to be safe. I feel so righteous being so disciplined! Anothe rbit of info that might help, when you get your pool cadence (arm turnover, both arms for one length), is your height. As you might imagine, taller people have the capability (but may not execute it properly) of having a longer stroke-length, and thus a lower stroke count. So, lemme know stuff as you determine it. And if you aren't back before Mossman, have a fine and fun race! |
| 2011-07-08 8:44 AM in reply to: #3584224 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - No leftovers for me, then? Oh, dear. Alas and woe! From the big Deb Mad book, here are a list of flavorites, in no special order (page and key words, for brevity): 544 -- pilaf with pine nuts 308 -- chickpeas and ginger 534 -- quinoa and corn 602 -- Malay tofu 480 -- noodles Thai 178 -- buckwheat noodles 715 -- cardamon cookies 304 -- red lentil dal 310 -- chickpeas with pots and toms 699 -- plum turnovers 311 -- chickpeas with sage 698 -- brown sugar tart 532 -- millet chickpea 358 -- braised chard 337 -- beans with salsa verde As for tri stufff, i don't know why 90 works for the bike and run. It might just be how fast the average reasonably fast person can keep the legs moving, more or less consistently? It is also not necessarily the holy grail, as some people better at higher rates, others at lower. For me on the bike, I can function well at a good bit higher, but always aim for 90 as a minimum. For running, though, it is pretty much my maximum as a balance between rate and maintainability. I guess I do well when I'm at 92-94, but can't carry ythst rate for too long before I have to back down to 90. I guess that is one of the surge/spurt aspects -- clip along at 93, then back down to 90/91. When I mentioned surges the other day, I only talked about the bike. That's becasue it's the one that works really well for me, just pushing that edge of power until it gets tough,m and then backing off for a few seconds before resuming. On the run, though, it's not quite so seamless, that back and forth transitioning. Maybe it's because it actually requires an element of braking, whereas on the bike the back-off parts oare a few seconds of simply "soft-pedaling". And back to veg eating, I have a couple of the Moosewood books, but not the one you mentioned. I will tell you later which I have, and what has worked from them. Are youi planning to ride with the group again? If so, enjoy -- and don't doubt for an moment that it's making you a better cyclist, cuz it is! |
| 2011-07-08 12:02 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Member 42 Ohio | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Good Luck to anyone racing this weekend and Happy training to those that are sitting this weekend out!!!! George~ That's a great goal!!!! I always seem to do better when I have something to work for!!!! Steve~ Sounds like a great plan for tomorrow!!! I did manage to get a couple workouts in this week and got in a nice slow relaxing swim yesterday...... the run for my races are just 2 miles, just long enough for me to get loosened up from the bike in time to cross the finish line!!! Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!! Shannen |
| 2011-07-08 3:46 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Steve - I see what you are saying about racing with a partner and after thinking about it, I agree. I will be dealing with all my issues and dont need to take on someone elses. I just need to find a nice sweet way to tell her that we can train but on race day we need to race alone. I would like to get a HIM in before the Full. I know New Orleans has a HIM in April 2012. What do you think about that one? that should give me plenty of time to get ready and then also rest afterwards before getting back to it for the full. Or do you think I should try one this year. I looked up the beach2battleship which is at the end of Oct and also there is a HIM in Miami. So if I need to do one this year then i will look at one of the two. As for the price of IMFl, I looked and for 2011 it was $575. Since I will be volunteering for IMFL in Nov 2011, I will get the chance to register before the public can. I hope everyone has a great weekend and if you are racing then good luck.. I doing a 80mile bike ride tomorow, Just Joking.. Have a Great Weekend. |
| 2011-07-08 4:32 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Starting to warm up here: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/75090?from=36hr_fcst10DayLink_undeclared Be carefuleveryone |
| 2011-07-08 10:05 PM in reply to: #3587225 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED GEORGE - Ha! Great minds think alike,as I was fixing to suggest New Orleans to you. The advany=tages as I see them are that both courses can have choppy water on the swim, and the run and bike for both are pretty flat. This past year, though, N.O. became a duathlon due to rough waters on Lake Ponch, but that can happen pretty much anywhere. A roll of the dice! B2B is also flat, with the added advantage of the swim being in saltwater. But the swim is extra short due to timing with the incoming tide. I mean, it's still 1.2 miles, but the swim times can be very fast. Now, the '10 race was mis-planned, and people didn't get the benefits of the incoming tide, but I'm sure the RD has made certain that this year's race will be as fast as the first two years' swims were. The advantage I see to trying to do one this year -- and definitely pre-IMFL -- is so you know that you like the longer distances AND that your body can handle the training for them, before you drop those big bucks on IMFL. As I think I mentioned the other day, the refunds for the M-Dot races are paltry, so signing up is not to be taken lightly unless one has plenty of very disposable income. In all honesty, I think you could benefit from having AT LEAST two half-irons under your belt before tackling a full iron. there is just so much to learn and be exposed to in a half-iron by way of hands-on prep for an iron, and it's skills and knowledge that just can't be gotten by reading books -- or really even having a coach or mentor or fellow athletes tell you about. Just for the record, I did my first (of two) irons in '04, and it was my 29th triathlon, and in my fifth season of racing. It had been preceded by a fairly whopping nine half-irons, so I had definitely paid my dues. And even though I thought I knew alot.........it's fairly gripping to learn that doing an iron takes anyone outside anything they have done before. I mean, it's one thing to look at the numbers and think it's "just" double the distances of a half-iron, and while that's true mathematically.........that's not at all how it translates into reality when the day finally comes. (Gulp!) Soooo, all that is just to say that if you can do a couple of HIM before your first iron, that would be ideal. However, i can see how time (and probably economics) is working against you, as long as you keep with IMFL '12 as a goal. As for costs, N.O. 70.3 will be about $250m or $275, and Miami 70.3 will be higher -- maybe $300 or $325. I'm assuming you're thinking about thayt one, as opposed to another independent HIM run near Miami. that one, like B2B, would likely be around $200, I think. I will see some more, later, about racing independently. This will give you a bit more to think about, and should make sense to whomever you are thinking of as training and racing partners. See you soon! |
| 2011-07-09 2:49 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 358 Taoyuan, Taiwan | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey everyone... I've been pretty much off BT for the past 2 weeks... just sticking my head back in. I had an awesome bike ride on Thursday, my longest yet. I did 65 km in 2:20. It was about 35 degrees outside by the end of the ride, but since I got an early start it wasn't so bad. On a side note, anyone interested in a Google+ invite? I've set up a Triathlon circle, and now I need some friends to see how it all works. |
| 2011-07-09 6:32 AM in reply to: #3586232 |
| Member 179 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I am off for another bike ride with the group. I will try one of those resipes tonight and let you know how it works. Later. Ellen |
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