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Which came first the chicken or the egg?   

I gave up stretching before I run I was getting some serious pain that was attributed to the stretching, but my runs start out slow, so I think it takes me longer to warm them up.  I do stretch afterwards.

So if you shouldn't stretch until you are warmed up, how do you warm up to stretch?  Me so confused on this whole thing! 

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 11:05 AM Good morning everyone....I am going to go hop on my bike before the rain hits! then will be going to the pool! may not make the masters class at noon but will definitely get in some lap swimming on my own. have a good day! get out there and ride, bike, swim and do those core workouts! if you need a shove let us know! I DO FOR THE POOL! someone PUSH ME IN!!!! gotta find my swim mojo...anyone find mine? or have an extra?

I found mine.....it was gone and it pisses me off when it goes away.  I think I have some extra I can give to you, I felt great in the pool this morning.  Maybe it is the frigid cold temp of the water...or maybe it decided the cruel trick was up.  

Julie, get thee to a pool!  I gotta get you one of those swimpods, you can listen to Jerry while you swim back and forth, back and forth, back and forth...... 

I have always instructed my clients to do exactly what you are doing, Tammy.  Start out slow to get the HR up, warm the muscles, and get your head in the game.  Stretch after your workout.  I'd sure love to get the Physical Therapy student to tell us what is best.  She is so lucky to get the most up to date info on this subject!

notarunnr - 2008-04-02 9:11 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 11:05 AM Good morning everyone....I am going to go hop on my bike before the rain hits! then will be going to the pool! may not make the masters class at noon but will definitely get in some lap swimming on my own. have a good day! get out there and ride, bike, swim and do those core workouts! if you need a shove let us know! I DO FOR THE POOL! someone PUSH ME IN!!!! gotta find my swim mojo...anyone find mine? or have an extra?

 

I found mine.....it was gone and it pisses me off when it goes away. I think I have some extra I can give to you, I felt great in the pool this morning. Maybe it is the frigid cold temp of the water...or maybe it decided the cruel trick was up.

Julie, get thee to a pool! I gotta get you one of those swimpods, you can listen to Jerry while you swim back and forth, back and forth, back and forth......

did you say swim pods? they make them? what closet have I been in...or maybe I don't know because I HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE POOL to see them!?! thanks for the shove Tammy I will go today PROMISE!!! do I have to swim, though!!?! kiddin!!!

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races? Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort. (For me, it's my calves.) After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month! Hee-hee!!!!

Julie---Here is something I found for ya.  I'll keep looking into this and probably bombard you with stretching info.  I'm curious, too.  Cheers!

Available research is inconclusive regarding the optimal time to stretch. In addition, strong evidence is lacking with regard to the beneficial effects associated with pre-exercise stretching (e.g., injury prevention or enhanced athletic performance). In fact, research exists to suggest that stretching prior to an athletic activity may decrease power output resulting in diminished physical performance. Some group fitness instructors incorporate stretching at the end of the warm-up period of an exercise class. However, this practice can be somewhat counterproductive since stretching during the conclusion of the warm-up will cause a drop in the participants' heart rates prior to the start of the training segment of the class. Consequently, the most appropriate time to stretch tends to be at the end of a group exercise class. Stretching at the end of class (as part of the cool-down segment) is recommended because it is safer and more effective to stretch muscles that are properly warmed and, therefore, more pliable. Also, it will help to further facilitate postworkout recovery.

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Source: Dr. Cedric X. Bryant, ACE's Chief Science Officer; ACE FitnessMatters, Mar/Apr 2006.

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 12:24 PM

notarunnr - 2008-04-02 9:11 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 11:05 AM Good morning everyone....I am going to go hop on my bike before the rain hits! then will be going to the pool! may not make the masters class at noon but will definitely get in some lap swimming on my own. have a good day! get out there and ride, bike, swim and do those core workouts! if you need a shove let us know! I DO FOR THE POOL! someone PUSH ME IN!!!! gotta find my swim mojo...anyone find mine? or have an extra?

 

I found mine.....it was gone and it pisses me off when it goes away. I think I have some extra I can give to you, I felt great in the pool this morning. Maybe it is the frigid cold temp of the water...or maybe it decided the cruel trick was up.

Julie, get thee to a pool! I gotta get you one of those swimpods, you can listen to Jerry while you swim back and forth, back and forth, back and forth......

did you say swim pods? they make them? what closet have I been in...or maybe I don't know because I HAVE NOT BEEN AT THE POOL to see them!?! thanks for the shove Tammy I will go today PROMISE!!! do I have to swim, though!!?! kiddin!!!

SwiMP3, there are others.  My son has one....I have never used it, nor has he except to goof around with.  Not sure how well they work.  I would love to swim with one, but my hearing is already bad...don't need to make it worse.

 Slow is best for your swim....just work on your form.  Don't worry about speed yet, when you want speed just pick up one of those new speedo suits.

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races?  Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort.  (For me, it's my calves.)  After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month!   Hee-hee!!!!

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:50 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races?  Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort.  (For me, it's my calves.)  After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month!   Hee-hee!!!!

good, I get paid then! hey are you ok...why are you lying on your back(your new avatar)? resting for your big run or ride?

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 10:23 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:50 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races?  Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort.  (For me, it's my calves.)  After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month!   Hee-hee!!!!

good, I get paid then! hey are you ok...why are you lying on your back(your new avatar)? resting for your big run or ride?

Hee-hee!  That was the best I could do for a peep avatar.  Had to get an owl in it somehow!

Will weigh in on the stretching thing later...have to go to a ballgame.  I have kepty up with most of that dealing with pitchers and the likes....but as noted above...the info is pretty inconclusive...another one to toss around...Icing.  most NEW research shows that icing after an event is not good for you.

will jump back in the discussion later.

Steve

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 10:28 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 10:23 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:50 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races?  Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort.  (For me, it's my calves.)  After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month!   Hee-hee!!!!

good, I get paid then! hey are you ok...why are you lying on your back(your new avatar)? resting for your big run or ride?

Hee-hee!  That was the best I could do for a peep avatar.  Had to get an owl in it somehow!

here you go! this way you do not have to exercise....let the owl do it for you!!!

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 10:44 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 10:28 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 10:23 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:50 AM

Girl Passing on Left - 2008-04-02 9:28 AM

owl_girl - 2008-04-02 9:15 AM

why is that you see most runners doing the stretches before any races?  Believe you me, I am very slow at the start, but thought that I still needed to stretch! if I am doing it with no purpose, I may stop...sure could use that 10-15 minutes on the run or to do other things in!?! thanks for the free advice Tracy! or are you going to bill us at the end of the month??? sure you will be hit up a lot for advice from all of us now! but you are probably used to it by now!

Before races (which are usually at a horrible time of the morning) it would be better to do some light jogging and then lightly stretch the muscles that usually give you problems after a hard effort.  (For me, it's my calves.)  After the race, do a whole body stretch.

I'll bill you at the end of the month!   Hee-hee!!!!

good, I get paid then! hey are you ok...why are you lying on your back(your new avatar)? resting for your big run or ride?

Hee-hee!  That was the best I could do for a peep avatar.  Had to get an owl in it somehow!

here you go! this way you do not have to exercise....let the owl do it for you!!!

Oh, he's just way to cute!  I'm using him!  Thank you!!!!

Will weigh in on the stretching thing later...have to go to a ballgame. I have kepty up with most of that dealing with pitchers and the likes....but as noted above...the info is pretty inconclusive...another one to toss around...Icing. most NEW research shows that icing after an event is not good for you.

will jump back in the discussion later.

Steve

Your a fast, fast woman...hope I don't have to race against you! 

Thanks for making a new one.  This will bump it to the next page so people can find it. 

NO...but I am going! promise! are you going to attempt to go back to that bowl of noodles that you call a pool!?