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Awesome pic Todd!


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wiky - 2011-01-01 9:29 PM Awesome pic Todd!

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2011-01-02 5:02 AM
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Happy new year, folks!

Here are my pretty embarrassing totals for 2010 especially after seeing what some of you guys are posting

Bike: 33h 43m 45s - 494.27 Mi
Run: 9h 24m 24s - 55.89 Mi
Swim: 10h 15m - 12900 M

In my defence I've only just started back at tri training and have just been using the last few months to enjoy easing back in. Real training will start Feb. Not sure what to really expect on the number of hours a week but I would guess 8 - 15 wouldn't be unreal as an average.

With regards to nutrition on HIM/IM races, is it recommended to find out what the race will be dispensing on the course and try this out in training first?


I find myself in a bit of a quandary with training at the moment - use a plan from BT or get/find a coach. Any thoughts on either approach?




Slightly off topic but I've got confession regarding my training over the last few days and coming week - I've met a lovely young filly so tri training is taking a back seat for the moment. Will be dragging her out running this weekend though so I'm not a complete lose. Ahem. Right. *blush*
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wiky - 2011-01-01 9:29 PM Awesome pic Todd!

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2011-01-02 7:20 AM
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Last year I trained 496 hours even with a few months off from injuries. It can be done if with organization, setting your priorities with family and work first and letting the small stuff go. The first year I trained it was much harder to relax and know when to step back. But I also attribute that to the coach that I had at that time. My current coach understands what it is like to have a family and how to balance training and life. While my family might disagree at times it seems like last year was easier. Perhaps it is because it was my second year of training for an IM.

The hardest thing has been staying awake past 9 in the evenings. It is almost impossible for me to stay awake after getting up at 4:30 and putting in 2 workouts after working all day. This has been the biggest problem in our marriage in regards to training. My husband likes to stay up late. I recover and have few injuries when I am in the bed at 9. My husband would like for me to sit on the couch (awake) and watch TV with him in the evenings. Once I sit down then I normally fall asleep after a certain time of night. During the weekends I am able to nap so staying up later isn't as much of a problem.

Has anyone else had a problem with this? If so then how do you handle it?

Also are there any vitamins or supplements that you would recommend taking on a daily basis? My iron levels tend to be low normally. But I haven't found a "friendly" iron supplement. Any recommendations?

What vitamins/supplements would be good for those of us who are over 45+?

Has anyone else found a good protein powder that doesn't cause stomach problems?

Over the holidays I gained 5 pounds. I would like to lose 10 pounds between now and IM without losing muscle and compromising my workouts.


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2011-01-02 9:08 AM
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Wow, that's a pretty nice 50 time for an 8 yo.  Not sure I could do that right now!  My oldest son is 7 and struggles just to swim a lap (takes after his Dad!).  My middle son (5) is more of a natural in the water and already outswims the 7 yo.  They always go to the pool together and have had the same coach (me), so it's been interesting to see that difference. 

Goal:
I'd like to become a better runner.  In particular, I'd like to improve my run at IMWI by 10+ minutes without sacrificing much/anything on my relative swim/bike performances. I think the key to getting there will be staying healthy and avoiding injuries.
2011-01-02 9:34 AM
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I definitely have problems staying awake Rene, but I don't know of any good solutions (other than naps!).

The biggest factor that impacts how I feel during the day is my diet.  The more I train, the more sensitive I seem to be to what I eat.  I don't recall that being the case at all when I was in college.  

The supplements I take are fish oil, an undenatured whey protein after hard sessions, some extra Vit D in the winter (based on a low blood test), and beta alanine.  I'm experimenting with the BA at the moment.  It seems to help me feel better during hard trainer sessions, but it could just be a placebo effect.  Everything I've read indicates that BA helps sprinters, not endurance athletes.


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2011-01-02 1:10 PM
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I had trouble last year getting enough sleep between training and work schedules.  I learned that 6.5 hours is not enough for me to function effectively or have enough energy to train well.  I also think it definitely pays to get enough sleep and that one way or another your body will insist on it...though he wasn't a Triathlete, my father got up at 4:30 for work and always ended up asleep in front of the TV, newspaper in lap, by 9pm
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I don't do them, but the Master's group I used to swim with does them a couple times a week (or so).  I'm not sure what their purpose is, but I do know that most of the folks in that Master's class are better swimmers than me...


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How do you do the breath control workouts?
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I usually do this ratcheting up each lap as Fred described, but mainly bilateral breathing, or on a pyramid count.  So either 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, etc or 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 9, 11, 7, 5, 3, for whatever the chosen distance of the drill is.  I've found that sticking to bilateral forces me to keep focusing on stroke quality on my weak side (right) during the higher number laps, and keep an even cadence as well.
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2011-01-02 5:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Fred Doucette's Half-Iron and Ironman Focused Group! -CLOSED!
Fred allowed me to join this group a bit late. I've known Fred since we both decided in '07 to sign up for our first IM...at Lake Placid in '08. So I figured I'd introduce myself.

STORY:
I was a overweight mom to 5 for to many years. I did my first tri  in 2004 to prove I had changed my life after losing a significant amount of weight about 62 pounds in the first year and now hovering in the 90-97 pound range. Over time my passion for this sport has grown as well as my desire to try and do new things. Last 3 years my focus has been Ironman racing as I've done IMLP, IM Canada and IMFL.

I feel I'm a bit of a grinder. I train consistently but haven't made much progress over last few years. One of the big struggles I face at times is frustration with lack of progress despite consistent well thought out training.

FAMILY STATUS: Married. with 5 kids, 21, 21, 16, 15, and 12; My husband Kevin does sprints/olys but mainly likes running and Crossfit. Our 16 year old Emily does tris and hopes to do her first Oly this summer.

CURRENT TRAINING: Right now I have a flair up of pes anserine tendinitis/bursitis and waiting to go see a PT 1/5 so running has been as tolerated and not much plus I've been in Minnesota away from my bike for the holidays to visit my parents who have some major medical issues.

I have worked with a coach since 2005 for tris as I like structure and someone to see the big picture as I prefer to do the workouts and not have to decide what to do or how to move things around if need be. I will start up again with my coach who I used last year sometime in January after a break from structure post IMFL. I typically swim 4x a week, run 4-5x a week hoping to get that up to 6x a week if I can get healthy, and bike 3-4x a week with training about 8-11 hours a week this time of year. My biggest week week I did 28 hours.

I train with power and have since 2006 so am pretty familiar with wko+, and power. I had power tap wheels both a training wheel and Zipps but changed over to Quarq when I got my Ordu in May. I also have a computrainer I use indoors but mostly use it in erg mode which controls my watts.

THIS YEAR's RACES: I did Lonestar 70.3 in April and it was my only healthy race of the year. Big race was IMFL and I did an IM aquavelo at Chesapeake in September.

I contracted Lyme's Disease in March/April from getting ticks riding my tri bike on the road. It effected both my knees as both swelled up. I ended up tearing my left lateral meniscus and had to get my knee scoped in June...had both meniscus trimmed, plika removed, snovial tissue removed and my patella smoothed out. My knee still is giving me problems but much improved from surgery. It's been suggested my run gait has changed and so post scope my run pace is still off where it was and my FTP (power) on bike is still lower which is a bit frustrating 7 months later.

2011 RACES: Hyannis 1/2 Mary February, Patriot HIM June,  with my main focus on two Ironman races in 2011....IMLP 7/24, IMFL 11/5. My plan is to do my 5th Ironman race to celebrate turning 50 with IMFL being day after my birthday.

I will probably do a couple of other tris but most I will wait and register if training goes well and I can get and stay injury free.

WEIGHT LOSS History/GOALS: Since April 21, 2003 I have lost about 90-97 pounds. Last two years my weight has been pretty stable other than post first two IMs blip up and down. I'd like to drop down and get to about 105 pound total loss and weigh maybe 10 pounds less than I did at my last IMLP. 

I'm a stress eater and struggle at times. For me consistent training makes me feel better, I'm happier and keeps my weight in check easier. I have changed the way I eat almost completely since before 2003. I try to avoid processed food, white food like sugar, bread, flour, rice, potatoes and all fried food and eat unprocessed natural food. For me it's a way of life but always a bit of a challenge.

WHAT WOULD MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE: I've been on BT since 2004, post a lot, don't work so have more free time than most, have had 2 mentor groups, I train consistently and love tris and the unique community of BT.


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KathyG - 2011-01-02 4:26 PM Fred allowed me to join this group a bit late. I've known Fred since we both decided in '07 to sign up for our first IM...at Lake Placid in '08. So I figured I'd introduce myself.

STORY:
I was a overweight mom to 5 for to many years. I did my first tri  in 2004 to prove I had changed my life after losing a significant amount of weight about 62 pounds in the first year and now hovering in the 90-97 pound range. Over time my passion for this sport has grown as well as my desire to try and do new things. Last 3 years my focus has been Ironman racing as I've done IMLP, IM Canada and IMFL.

I feel I'm a bit of a grinder. I train consistently but haven't made much progress over last few years. One of the big struggles I face at times is frustration with lack of progress despite consistent well thought out training.

FAMILY STATUS: Married. with 5 kids, 21, 21, 16, 15, and 12; My husband Kevin does sprints/olys but mainly likes running and Crossfit. Our 16 year old Emily does tris and hopes to do her first Oly this summer.

CURRENT TRAINING: Right now I have a flair up of pes anserine tendinitis/bursitis and waiting to go see a PT 1/5 so running has been as tolerated and not much plus I've been in Minnesota away from my bike for the holidays to visit my parents who have some major medical issues.

I have worked with a coach since 2005 for tris as I like structure and someone to see the big picture as I prefer to do the workouts and not have to decide what to do or how to move things around if need be. I will start up again with my coach who I used last year sometime in January after a break from structure post IMFL. I typically swim 4x a week, run 4-5x a week hoping to get that up to 6x a week if I can get healthy, and bike 3-4x a week with training about 8-11 hours a week this time of year. My biggest week week I did 28 hours.

I train with power and have since 2006 so am pretty familiar with wko+, and power. I had power tap wheels both a training wheel and Zipps but changed over to Quarq when I got my Ordu in May. I also have a computrainer I use indoors but mostly use it in erg mode which controls my watts.

THIS YEAR's RACES: I did Lonestar 70.3 in April and it was my only healthy race of the year. Big race was IMFL and I did an IM aquavelo at Chesapeake in September.

I contracted Lyme's Disease in March/April from getting ticks riding my tri bike on the road. It effected both my knees as both swelled up. I ended up tearing my left lateral meniscus and had to get my knee scoped in June...had both meniscus trimmed, plika removed, snovial tissue removed and my patella smoothed out. My knee still is giving me problems but much improved from surgery. It's been suggested my run gait has changed and so post scope my run pace is still off where it was and my FTP (power) on bike is still lower which is a bit frustrating 7 months later.

2011 RACES: Hyannis 1/2 Mary February, Patriot HIM June,  with my main focus on two Ironman races in 2011....IMLP 7/24, IMFL 11/5. My plan is to do my 5th Ironman race to celebrate turning 50 with IMFL being day after my birthday.

I will probably do a couple of other tris but most I will wait and register if training goes well and I can get and stay injury free.

WEIGHT LOSS History/GOALS: Since April 21, 2003 I have lost about 90-97 pounds. Last two years my weight has been pretty stable other than post first two IMs blip up and down. I'd like to drop down and get to about 105 pound total loss and weigh maybe 10 pounds less than I did at my last IMLP. 

I'm a stress eater and struggle at times. For me consistent training makes me feel better, I'm happier and keeps my weight in check easier. I have changed the way I eat almost completely since before 2003. I try to avoid processed food, white food like sugar, bread, flour, rice, potatoes and all fried food and eat unprocessed natural food. For me it's a way of life but always a bit of a challenge.

WHAT WOULD MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE: I've been on BT since 2004, post a lot, don't work so have more free time than most, have had 2 mentor groups, I train consistently and love tris and the unique community of BT.


Welcome Kathy!
I am so glad  you have joined us!  I saw you cross the finish line (via the internet) at IMFL and was so happy for you. I have followed your posts since I have been on BT.
Thanks for joining us.
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It seems that many of the people in this group have a coach so may not need to create their own workouts.  For those of you looking for good swim and/or bike workouts you may want to look at www.tripower.org . Click on the "forums" tab and you will find 3 weekly bike workouts- each typically an hour or maybe a little more-great for the trainer. Also 3 swim workouts in the 2500 range and 3 in the 3800 yard range.   The workouts are available to anyone to use-without charge. Tripower Multisports is Coach Mike Plumb's site.  I used Mike as a coach for 2010 and was very pleased.  He is also very reasonably priced.  This is not meant to be a plug for Mike but just a head's up on where to find a bike or swim workout when you may be looking for one.   

Randy  

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Glad to have you with us Kathy! I have read MANY of your posts since getting on BT and you provide good insight and advice.

Randy

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