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2011-12-29 9:40 PM
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ACK!

In my pedestrian ramble through past opages, I just came across one from three days ago from Ryan/mrbeachbum2, asking if there is still room in the group. Hmmmm.......







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2011-12-29 9:51 PM
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ANNE -

ACK!, again!

I wrote to you on the 23rd, just before we left for Albany/NYC,a nd I thought I made a specific comment about yout run. But just digging back to it, I see I didn't -- just a general blurp of enthusiasm for what you did.

But yes, the run was indeed a milestone, something that has been a loooooong time coming ---- and I sure hope it presages many more to follow! When'll be the follow-up to it? Any day now, with you back home?

At this point, I will cary my run off-season into Sunday, riding out '11 with a solid month or so sans run. I do feel I'm missing it, however --- but our current cold-snap gives no incentive whatsoever for running!

And for your paces on the pure km and the r/w split km --- thsoe are very fine for where you've been and where you're at now. Absolutely no need to push anything right now, other than maybe working to re-eastablish the running mechanics.

Nice new photo of you, too! From which race was it taken?


2011-12-29 9:58 PM
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DOUG -

Nifty comment about wondering why you were ever born, from the middle of that run. I know that feeling really well, as it crops up a few times every year. Mostly, for me, it is during races, when I spend too much time either in the red zone or flirting with it. At those times I swear I will never make THAT mistake again, or enter THAT race another time......but for the former I keep repeating the error of my ways, and for the latter I usually DO enter the same race another year -- just to try to prove to myself that the course doesn't (nercessarily....) have the best of me.

I guess that is an advantage of my solo-training ways --- that I can control my own pace and cna pull back some whenever I am close to burying myself. Bruck, bruck!


2011-12-29 10:26 PM
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JO -

Welcome back! Sorry to hear about the knee problem, and of course I hope it is just a passing thing for you. How is it now, thtree days after your post?

Outside (lateral) knee problems get different bits of advice. One source says that if the pain is on the lateral side, a stability shoe might be called for --pretty much the polar opposite of your Vibrams. Other sources say that, especially for ITB issues, a shoe designed for enhanced shock-absorption should be worn. There -- does that settle it?

My experiecne is that for ITB problems, the latter remedy is the better bet. But first --- tell me about your arches. Are they quite high, or quite low, or somewhere ideally in-between. People with high arches can be a bit more predisposed to ITBS, although anyone can suffer it if their shoes are really worn out or if they have been running frequently on a road with fairly steep camber.

Also, have a look at the bottoms of the Vibrams and see where the most prominent wear is, especially at the front half of them. Let me know what you see, as well as whether your arches are high or low.

If the problem persists, i would recommend looking into a more conventional running shoe. seeing as how you live in CA, you can make the most out of ordering from Road Runner Sports -- they can problem deliver to you in about 27 minutes. The good thing about RRS is that they have a very generous trial period....although i'm not usre what it is anymore. I think it is 30 days to run in apir and then if they don't work, just return them. That said, though, don't do anything quite yet, at least until you've studied wear-patterns and revealed your arch shape!

Many people do well with ITB flare-ups when they use a foam-roller on it regularly. There are a number of foam rollers on the market now, and in general firmer is better. but firmer is also more painfuller, so that's a trade-off to think about.

Finally, if it's ITB it should also bother you going up and/or down stairs, but hopefully it;s not enogh so that you have to do stairs almost crab-like --- scuttling sideways, up and down. When aggravated, it will feel like soemone punched you in the solar plexus, only that pain is on the outside of the knee. Cry mercy!!!

Some people can kind of predict when the ITB is going to be a porblem, as the part of it aklong the thigh will begin to get tight, or maybe the outside of the hip will begin to hurt. It's a very long bugger of fascia, running from the hip and attaching below the knee. What hurts is that it starts to rub across the (something-or-other) condyle, basically "jumping" off it's regular track.

Finally-finally, yes, poor running form can also be a causative factor, as can poor strategy -- running too much, or running on injurious terrain. But for you, though, let's start off with more personal stufff, such as wear pattern and arch type. I know it's not too much mileage (at least not yet! ), and I'm more inclined to think that a change of running shoes might be the best path to try.

Finally-finally-finally, if it's true-and-advanced ITB, you won't be able to run through it -- it'll just be way too painful. Well, maybe someone with an off-the-charts threshhold for pain will be able to slog through it....but that cat sure isn't me!


2011-12-29 10:36 PM
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Just HokieJeff and Trina and Doug from page 12, and then onwards from there. Pant, pant, pant!!



2011-12-30 7:09 AM
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TRINA -

Sounds like a superb xmas -- especially the goodies you received. You're yet another one here who got just about enough stuff to justify opening their own tri store!

Early fall HIM? How about mid-fall? I'm thinking of Beach2Battleship, in Wilmington, NC. That would satisfy your interest in saltwater and flatness, both on the run and the bike. I think it has its own website (www.beach2battleship.com?), but if not it can be viewed at www.setupevents.com.

The race has run 3 or 4 years now, and features a swim in a protected channel and that is timed to coincide with an incoming tide; so, swim times are FAST! Someone goofed in '10, and the swim was not at all current-assisted. Moreover, that year it was held on something like Nov 12, so many people got very cold. This past season, however, extra care was taken to reading the tide charts correctly, AND the date was moved back a few weeks -- maybe Oct 30, or maybe even about Oct 15; can't remember.

The bike heads west out of Wimington and then returns, a sweet one-looper. It is just about 100% flat, but wind (your friend!!) can be a factor. As for the run, it is also out-and-back for the HIM crowd, and winds through Wilmington's apparently-pretty streets. It crosses a couple of bridges, which give it its only hint of hills.

There are two transition zones, so some thought has to be given to navigating those, but if you went with family you could be driven to the swim start and not have to fuss with shuttle buses and such. Overall, the race has a great rep, and the price is very, very right -- a nice switch from the overcharging of the 70.3 races!

As for 70.3, though, there is Augusta, usually at the end of Sept. The swim is also current-assisted, but in a river. Bike is hillyish, but benefits from a long descent for the final ten miles or so. The run is falt, two loops through the town, but can be hot and tedious.

I will think about others; right now I am mostly blanks. I can come up with lots that are further-flung from you, but few have saltwater swims. The one at Myrtle Beach is in saltwater, maybe in a channel as with B2B. It is put on by the Ultramax people, and for a couple of years was the USAT long-course championship events (but not restricted to athletes shooting for that honor). I think it is called the Halfmax Championship. Anyhow, google Myrtle Beach half-iron halfmax, and you should be rewarded. Meanwhile, i will continue thinking!







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HOKIEJEFF -

On my best days.....I don't think I even hit 1:30/100m!!!

Some swim success recently, though, and that's with a concerted effort at bilateral breathing. I am doing mostly 1000-1500m, strictly bilateral, but also strictly with pull-buoy until I can get it right. It is becoming more and more easy over the three weeks I have worked at it, and I'm generally doing the 1500 ones in about 28:00 --- which in a race I would be very happy with. We'll see where this gets me, though, when race season begins.


2011-12-30 7:22 AM
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HOKIEJEFF again -

GREAT article on the breath/intensity "zones"! I can never remember that stuff, and it's gotten worse with each year that elapses since I had my last (and first....) testing done --- about a decade ago. (Could it be that long?!?) I have prited out the article and will afix it near the computer for future reference. Many thanks!

Also, it was nice to see me "grouped" with Gordo.....although we both know the difference is of the silk-purse-sow's-ear variety!



2011-12-30 7:30 AM
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DOUG -

What a terrific "back-up" option for a pool --- merely the IU pool. Lucky guy! A nonm-chlorine atmosphere would be a bonus, and you're right about Spitz and Hall looking down on you.....and hopefully conferring some sort of blessing from the swim gods!!

Gary Hall Sr or Jr occasionally posts over at Slowtwitch, and some of the stuff is very revolutionary. If I ever manage to get caught up here, and if I can remember, I will try to describe a very unique breathing pattern that he (i'm think now it is Jr) posted there. In short for now, though, it is not every other breath (as in unilateral), and not bilateral, but rather something like right-left-not-left-right-not-right-left-not, so two out of every three strokes gets a breath. I THINK that is it, and will mess around with it in the pool today. it's another of those things where I can't describe it unless I'm actually doing it (or have recently done it). It is a mindblower to try, but feels quite cool when executed properly. It almost seems to increase a sense of "flow" in my swimming. Keep reminding me to explain this better!


2011-12-30 7:34 AM
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GENE -

Ack! I too had forgotten the NYR crowds, but for me the bigger problem is at the gym, with the pool a distant second. And seeing as how I'm not doing the gym this off-season (and I really miss it alot ), I'm hoping to not ghet swamped at the pool. I almost always do a mid-afternoon 50+ swim, where the crowds are much smaller AND the lanes are wider -- three instead of the usual four. So, I shall hope for the best!


2011-12-30 7:38 AM
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GEORGE -

Congrats on signing up for Granfondo, and I will look forward to living vicarioulsy through you with a race in Oliver. I would still love to fit the Oliver half-iron into my life sometime, but don't really figure it will happen. I shoulda done it back about 5-9 years ago, when I was a willing road-warrior and game to at least think about driving anywhere.

Curiously, i have never flown to a race, and I have never done a bike-only event. All that racing of mine.....and none from either of those categories!




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JEFFTX -

Maybe it's my poor excuse for a memory....but did I know (a) you had mentally committed to Kansas 70.3, and (b) that Mimi was planning to do the marathion in Allen....and even that Allen had a marathon? You're full of surprises, once again!

I chuckled over your comment about the usual collection of running events around you that never really stop, as I'm sure you participated in about 83% of them yourself this past season. Edify us all, please -- how many run races DID you do in '11??

Is Mean Green with a pool swim?


2011-12-30 7:49 AM
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TRINA again -

I don't think Kansas 70.3 has been plagued by heat in its four or so years, and it is generally well-regarded except by people who niether figure Kansas is flat, nor who look at the bike profile to see how rolling the course really is. Oops!

My sense is that for folks who have trained well for it, it is a very good race, and maybe even "fast". Plus, being near to Lawrence is a huge bonus, and then there is always KC itself, not all that far away. Great city, KC!!





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stevebradley - 2011-12-28 4:42 PM JOHANNE - Yes, 2012 here we come -- and you're in the vanguard, blowing into it with a 20-miler two days out from it. Nice! Good plan, too, to hydrate and get psyched for a couple of days, and then being able to enjoy (and maybe even having earned!) whatever NYE and NYD bring to you. I think my sports doc used words very similar to yours: "I would try anything rather than have it." He was very supportive of my neuroma removal when it happened, so to hear him so strong-voiced about the bunion surgery talk really caught my attention. As for the toenails......aren't there effective torture techniques that involve their removal? No thanks from me, as well!

I know better then to try to do a long run on New Year's weekend! We don't do anything crazy but we'll go to a friends house for dinner and festivities Saturday night. New Year's Day is a lot of sitting around watching football, drinking fresh orange juice mimosa's and eating. I can't deny it! It's Dave's favorite day of the year

Dave has to go to work Friday so I think I'm going to plan my running route where he can drop me off 20 miles away and I'll run home. Then I can't fake my way out of any miles

Johanne, 

I've spent a good part of the morning reading your personal blog.  Really enjoyed it and learning about you, your family, and how you came to triathlon.   You really got alot of volume in very quickly, and to have already done 2 half IM's so early in your tri career is impressive.   

I noticed we have a few things in common.     I use Lara bars and Honey Stinger products on the bike.   They both seem to agree well with my stomach even when I am working hard.   I love it when the races have us older women starting mid or front of the pack for the same reason you cited - you feel more a part of the race being with the rest of the cyclists.   My attitude with swimming is also similar to yours.   Although I am always hoping and striving to improve my time (and it HAS improved dramatically from my 1st year), I am always relaxed with the swim, even smiling in the water, and don't gauge success on my time.   

Spent some time reading your posts here as well and see you mentioned wanting to do a long, supported ride some time. Ken (my husband) and I did our first last year in Florida with the Florida Freewheelers.    The group has been around for a long time, it is REALLY inexpensive, and REALLY well run.   It is only 6 days and may not be as long as you were looking for, but it was a great experience, that we will do again.  

I also enjoyed reading your HIM race reports. Vineman sounds like a nice event.   Ken will be retiring next year and we are hoping to do some racing in the States, so have added that to our list!  

See that your husband is one of your training partners.   Ken also decided to take up triathlon after spending the first year taking pictures of me.    He was also starting to have problems keeping up with me on a bike.    We're pretty close in our abilities - not sure if that is because we do the same training or genetics.   

Congratulations on your weight loss.   I have no doubt that last 20 pounds won't be around long.   

Hope you have a great run today.   Good strategy.

 

Anne

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stevebradley - 2011-12-30 7:44 AM JEFFTX - Maybe it's my poor excuse for a memory....but did I know (a) you had mentally committed to Kansas 70.3, and (b) that Mimi was planning to do the marathion in Allen....and even that Allen had a marathon? You're full of surprises, once again! I chuckled over your comment about the usual collection of running events around you that never really stop, as I'm sure you participated in about 83% of them yourself this past season. Edify us all, please -- how many run races DID you do in '11?? Is Mean Green with a pool swim?

24 events, 2 half marathons 1 full, 10 other running events 5k to 15k, 7 triathlons; 1 olympic 1 HIM 5 sprints, 4 Bike Rallies-1 full century

Yes Allen has a marathon, 2 really New Years Eve and New Years day    http://www.newyearsdouble.com/

Mimi is starting to get pretty sick-sniffling/sore throat etc....that run is in doubt but she paid for it and has the same instincts I do about showing up for something she has paid for.

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DAVE -

Therein lies the vicious pecking order of swimming: you are humbled by the All-American, I am humbled by you. Sheesh.

Really, though, 8000 over two days is mammoth. I bow 108 times in your general direction!














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DENISE and ELLEN -

I don't know why thjat particular Gretchen Reynolds article hasn't been posted yet. I will keep checking, and if it'as not up within a few days I will post excerpts from it. I did find several other good pieces in my searching, however, so all was not lost!






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CURT -

Those are great guidelines for eating/dieting/monitoring. And good by you, too, to get that healthily yummy meal all packaged up and ready to go. I was a vegetarian from late '03 into late '06, and eventually "caved" due to the huge amount of cooking and prep that was invoved in order to have variety twice a day, and over the course of several days at a time. I am sure I will go back to it in time, just because I miss the aspect of eating "mindfully". I had spent all my life not really thinking about what I was eating, but vegetarianism chenged all that right away.

For me, it started as an exercise in taking control of my eating -- not for weight-loss purposes, but just to play with that notion. Very quickly, I found that it was pretty easy to do, at least the taking control part. Over time, though, the toughest aspect beyond the cooking was trying to find decent food while on road trips, and especially going to races. That was never an easy task!

However, finding suitable protein on the home front was very easy, and I don't thnk anyone should shy away from vegetarianism due to fears of inadequate protein. Of course, not all options are palatable to many people, but overall i am a very picky eater....and I did just fine!





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HOKIEJEFF -

Nice selection you have for a TT bike! My LBS stocks Cerveklo and Felt, and swears by both. I have a friend who loves his Dulce. I think I have heard very good things about the Slice 5, but know nothing about the Specialized.

As for fit....
This probably isn't news to you, but not all bikes are creeated at all equally for different physiognomies. When I ahd my best-ever comprehensive fiit at Fit Werx in Vermont back in '03, i learned that several companies made bikes that would work well for me odd shape (very long arms and torso, and even at 6'2", comparatively short legs - at least for one who is my height). Fortunately for me, the Cervelo I had at the time was one of the models that suited me just fine. (And enough so that when I updated a few years ago, i stuck with Cervelo.)

So, make sure that both bike shops will spend LOTSe getting you fit just right. Serrota is the most common fitting system, but many great fitters have gone through Dan Empfield's F.I.T. system. Mostly, you want to feel that you were measured extensively, and lots of picayune adjustments were made. I guess one can carry this to extremes in what they are demanding, but you definitely don't wnat the seller to move the saddle up-and-down a cm or two.

Have fun with the whole process!!


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Getting closer to being caught-up! Will the "catch" happen tonight?

(In bike-racing terms, usually it's the peloton that catches the breakaway rider; for me, it's the solo rider trying to reel in the breakaway peloton that you all have emerged as! )








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 Keys were as follows.  First, it's all about discipline.  Second, make sure you track what you put in.  Monitor the carbs, fats, and proteins.  You can do the research on what is the "right" mix, key is that you need to be aware of what is going in.  Third, you need to take the time to prepare -- pack a lunch, pre-cook a meal, measure out the proper portions.

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Great advice croixfan. 

Just finished Bob Seebahor's book on Nutritional Periodization.  Really good book.  I listened to him on an imtalk podcast earlier this year (great speaker).  He was the USA's sports nutritionist for the last Olympic squad.  Really contradicts  the "carb loading" fade for endurance athletes on its head.  He's an advocate for metabolic efficiency (making your body good at burning fat for energy rather than stored carbs.).  He says that you do that by controlling your blood sugar.

I'm trying to rap my head around all he ideas but that are very similar to what croixfan just said.  Protein (chicken, fish, lean beef), carbs (fruits & veggies - no pasta), good fat (olive oil, nuts, avocado).

I'm going to see if I can find Seebahor's book.   Chris Carmichael also teaches nutritional periodization.    In '99 he was named U.S. Olympic Committee's Coach of the Year.  I studied nutrition in my early years and like what he says - same stuff I knew 40 years ago.  It kind of makes me laugh when I hear some of the new information that is being 'discovered' these days - yeah, there are some new discoveries but the basic science of nutrition doesn't change.  

I agree with you on the metabolic efficiency.   My ability to burn fat for energy has increased quite a bit over 3 years but it happened as a result of a cycling training program from my kinesiologist after V02 max/anaerobic threshold testing.   Still working on increasing it.  But I also know that controlling blood sugar is REALLY important and one of the 3 pillars of good health.  

In 2007 my Aerobic Base (maximum HR at which I burn fat as dominant fuel) was 3.7 calories per minute with total calories at 7.5/min.  at a HR of 122.    Last year my test results were 5 fat calories/min with total calories of 9.6/min at a HR of 134.     

I was also able to increase my anaerobic threshold (maximum sustainable rate at which I burned calories (fat AND carbs) my highest sustainable exercise intensity)) from a HR of 136 to 144.   It's not bad, but I am still working on increasing my AT.   Hope to get it a bit closer to my max cycling HR of 159.  I know that for elite athletes these 2 numbers are very close.

It's nice to be able to get tested but I don't do it every year because of cost and once you have had it done, and know how the body works, you CAN get a pretty good feel for where you are.   I pretty much guessed that my new AT was about 142-143 before I was tested last year.    

My V02 max is 49.5 ml/kg/min which is above average for my age, which of course makes me happy.  Smile Apparently this doesn't increase because it is largely genetically predetermined and has little to do with the efficiency of our metabolism, but it can decrease.  

One of the biggest things this test showed, both times, is that my legs gave out before my heart, and I know I need some strength training.   Just can't seem to get it done on my own, so have signed up for some PT sessions at a club here where they work with athletes including triathletes and focus on metabolic training and efficiency.   I'm hoping it works.  

Might have gotten a bit side-tracked here.    Anyway, I'm all in for trying to drop some more weight! 

Anne

Hi Anne,

Wow, impressive set of tests you went thru there.  Never in my past have I thought much about my diet but it intrigues me now.  You can get Seebohar's Nurtritional Periodication book on Amazon.  He also has an ebook available for like $4 on metabolic efficiency.  Better yet, if you listen to podcasts you can get a feel for what Seebohar's book is like by listening this imtalk podcast:

http://www.imtalk.me/home/2011/4/25/imtalk-episode-259b-bob-seebohar.html

The interview starts at minute 45 of the podcast so jump to there.



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Av8rTx - 2011-12-29 3:15 PM

 IMO the most important thing regarding HR training or anything else is be consistent, pick a formula or method and stick with it long enough to have an honest appraisal of it's worth, train consistently

I'm with you on that Texas Jeff.  The protocol you choose doesn't matter.  What matters is getting the work done, and having fun doing the work.

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retiretotri - 2011-12-29 5:14 PM

Wow, I need to do some catching up in a hurry!  Here is my bio:

NAME: Lori

STORY: High level college and adult USTA league tennis player for 25 years.  Took up running after graduating from college and completed several 10-Ks, a couple of half marathons, and a 20-miler.  Injured my hip training for my first marathon--never made it to the starting line and quit running for years. 

Volunteered at the inaugural IM Wisconsin in 2002.  Continued to volunteer at IM WI and started to ponder the possibility of doing a triathlon.  Started swim lessons in Feb 05 with a local swim coach. Learning to swim was way out of my comfort zone--a major accomplishment. I went from not being able to do one length of the pool to completing an Ironman swim.  Swimming is still my major weakness.  Completed IM Wisconsin in 2008 with my hubby at age 50, albeit very slowly! 

Completed several sprint tris and one Ironman.

Currently retired and sole caregiver for an elderly parent (Alzheimers).

FAMILY STATUS: Married / Husband Eric (training partner for tris)/ Two terrier mutt dogs-Odin (Jack Rat) and Emma Dot (Rat/?). 

CURRENT TRAINING: Currently doing a coached Performance Based Cycling class 2x/week.  Planning on an additional bike, 3 runs, 2 swims, and some strength and yoga each week after the holidays.  Will start an open water swim class in mid-May. 

LAST YEAR'S RACES: Two half marathons.  Finally broke 2 hours (1:58:11) for the half marathon distance (set my previous PR of 2:02:09 in 1980).  No tris due to life events.

2012 RACES: The plan includes the Lake Monona 20K run in May, Madison Half Marathon in May, sprint tri in June (Lake Mills), July (Door County), and Aug (Silver Lake or Rev3 Wisconsin Dells Olympic Distance).  Fall full marathon in October barring any injuries (Haunted Hustle, Fox Cities, Chicago).  Perhaps a trail run in the fall.  Ironman Wisconsin or Arizona in 2013. 

WEIGHTLOSS: Just right but need to drop some body fat.

I do come from mostly a running background and it is my strength.  Very new to both cycling and swimming.  Strong background in strength training.  Really looking forward to working with the group and getting some sage advice and a few kicks in the seat of the pants when needed!

Now I just have to catch up on some reading!  Looking forward to getting to know everyone!


 

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2011-12-30 10:36 AM
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stevebradley - 2011-12-30 8:09 AM TRINA - Sounds like a superb xmas -- especially the goodies you received. You're yet another one here who got just about enough stuff to justify opening their own tri store! Early fall HIM? How about mid-fall? I'm thinking of Beach2Battleship, in Wilmington, NC. That would satisfy your interest in saltwater and flatness, both on the run and the bike. I think it has its own website (www.beach2battleship.com?), but if not it can be viewed at www.setupevents.com. The race has run 3 or 4 years now, and features a swim in a protected channel and that is timed to coincide with an incoming tide; so, swim times are FAST! Someone goofed in '10, and the swim was not at all current-assisted. Moreover, that year it was held on something like Nov 12, so many people got very cold. This past season, however, extra care was taken to reading the tide charts correctly, AND the date was moved back a few weeks -- maybe Oct 30, or maybe even about Oct 15; can't remember. The bike heads west out of Wimington and then returns, a sweet one-looper. It is just about 100% flat, but wind (your friend!!) can be a factor. As for the run, it is also out-and-back for the HIM crowd, and winds through Wilmington's apparently-pretty streets. It crosses a couple of bridges, which give it its only hint of hills. There are two transition zones, so some thought has to be given to navigating those, but if you went with family you could be driven to the swim start and not have to fuss with shuttle buses and such. Overall, the race has a great rep, and the price is very, very right -- a nice switch from the overcharging of the 70.3 races! As for 70.3, though, there is Augusta, usually at the end of Sept. The swim is also current-assisted, but in a river. Bike is hillyish, but benefits from a long descent for the final ten miles or so. The run is falt, two loops through the town, but can be hot and tedious. I will think about others; right now I am mostly blanks. I can come up with lots that are further-flung from you, but few have saltwater swims. The one at Myrtle Beach is in saltwater, maybe in a channel as with B2B. It is put on by the Ultramax people, and for a couple of years was the USAT long-course championship events (but not restricted to athletes shooting for that honor). I think it is called the Halfmax Championship. Anyhow, google Myrtle Beach half-iron halfmax, and you should be rewarded. Meanwhile, i will continue thinking!

Got my fingers crossed on early fall (late October) REV 3 HIM in my neck of the woods (Southwest Florida).  REV 3 has already publicly annouced it but ran into some problems with the original venue in Sarasota.  Looks like it is going to be moved to Venice, FL from the ramblings on slowtwitch.  Anyhow, nice Gulf of Mexico swim, bike and run flat as a pancake and temperature/humidity should not be too bad that time of year.

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stevebradley - 2011-12-30 8:13 AM HOKIEJEFF - On my best days.....I don't think I even hit 1:30/100m!!! Some swim success recently, though, and that's with a concerted effort at bilateral breathing. I am doing mostly 1000-1500m, strictly bilateral, but also strictly with pull-buoy until I can get it right. It is becoming more and more easy over the three weeks I have worked at it, and I'm generally doing the 1500 ones in about 28:00 --- which in a race I would be very happy with. We'll see where this gets me, though, when race season begins.

I can tell you doing 1:30 100's involves long rest intervals for me!!!

 

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