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 2011-08-26 8:02 PM in reply to: #3661405 |
Elite  3067    Cheesehead, WI |  Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWow! Joanne - I wanna ride with those chicks. Sounds great! I only rode in a big group training for a Team in Training Century...learned lots but it was not very competitive. Now I get chicken when I see that folks will average 18-20 mph. And Ellen - I commend you in inspiring the youth out there. You sound like a very caring teacher but be careful not to burn yourself out with training over the weekend! |
| 2011-08-27 7:36 AM in reply to: #3660066 |
Champion 10618   | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JOHANNE - Good ride, and you're brave to try drafting. I've never done it and have little interest in doing so.......and with my recent string of bike mishaps the interest is non-existent. But I do respect those who attempt drafting, and were I to ever decide to do cycling races --- I'd have to learn! And I can fully see why the tail end of your run was tough, given the effort of that ride. Anything similarly taxing planned for the weekend? I've had a "flat" week, feeling little energy at all. Two races in two weekends, each with a long drive involved, seems to have done me in. I used to be able to recover quickly from such efforts, but it's not happening now. Hmmm. I had toyed with the ida of waking in the wee hours and driving down to VT for a race tomorrow morning, but learned last night that the threat of Irene had caused its cancellation. Just as well for me, to not be led into temptation! |
| 2011-08-27 7:36 AM in reply to: #3660128 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - Well done ---- doing what you do! |
| 2011-08-27 7:40 AM in reply to: #3660086 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - You might want to find the following on the NYTimes website. It is from Thursday op-ed page, written by Sol Garfunkle and David Mumford, and titled "How to Fix Our Math Education". If you find it, I'd like to know what you think. And if it's not available online, let me know and I'll try to remember to shlep it down with me in -- TWO WEEKS!! |
| 2011-08-27 7:45 AM in reply to: #3661405 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN again - There's just no pleasing you thrill-seekers sometimes. You get an earthquake, you get a hurricane..........and then you speculate that the rest of the year might be boring. Huh. Well, would you like a plague of locusts, maybe? Kudzu, running amok? |
| 2011-08-27 8:51 AM in reply to: #3661744 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-08-27 5:36 AM JOHANNE - Good ride, and you're brave to try drafting. I've never done it and have little interest in doing so.......and with my recent string of bike mishaps the interest is non-existent. But I do respect those who attempt drafting, and were I to ever decide to do cycling races --- I'd have to learn! And I can fully see why the tail end of your run was tough, given the effort of that ride. Anything similarly taxing planned for the weekend? I've had a "flat" week, feeling little energy at all. Two races in two weekends, each with a long drive involved, seems to have done me in. I used to be able to recover quickly from such efforts, but it's not happening now. Hmmm. I had toyed with the ida of waking in the wee hours and driving down to VT for a race tomorrow morning, but learned last night that the threat of Irene had caused its cancellation. Just as well for me, to not be led into temptation! Sarah, you would of had a blast! Steve, I found it mentally challenging as well as physically to draft. It was really fun to learn something new and have such good support from the other riders I have an hour run today. I might shorten it because I'm taking care of the horses at my barn this weekend and I'm also putting on my wedding coordinator hat for a wedding today. Tomorrow, Dave and I are going on a long bike, maybe 70-80 miles in preparation for our century ride at the end of September. Not surprising that you've had a flat week. I kind of feel that way after a race weekend and I imagine after 2 in a row it would be compounded. Take it easy this weekend and jump back in Monday |
| 2011-08-27 10:10 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I took Friday off from training-felt like I had a bit f a cold, also got distracted by some kittens abandoned on our door step-literaly left between the latched screen door and front door. They are doing OK I guess Today I was able to run a 5k-23:41 pr even though I wasn't feeling strong this morning at all. I finished 2nd in my Age Group which disappointed me because that brief moment I walked to shake off some lower back pain is probably where he passed me. 18th overall. Last year I did this same event in 30:09, I remember digging deep trying to get <30 and missing it by 9 seconds. My first mile split was-6:59, then 7:53, then I hit the lap button at what I thought was the 3 mile marker 6:05! and 2:46 for the .1 SO I am assuming I misread the sign or it was marked wrong. So whats up with lower back stiffness when I run fast? It only seems to get me in races or the occasional really fast run Regrouping a bit then on the road for a long ride and some hill work |
| 2011-08-27 1:19 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
| Member 179 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Steve, I looked up the article you mentioned. I think they have a point. It is hard to get non math students to get excited about quadratic equations. It does give then practice in abstract thinking but beyond that it is not useful in their lives. The building trades guys have to take precalculus so they have some exposure to right triangle trig but teh rest of the course is not at all relevant. I taught a course once where I could pick out what I wanted to teach from the text so I did taxes and probability, finance and linear programming. It was fun. I imagine that the math curriculum will gradually shift in the coming years. Kids need to understand spreadsheets and computer programming and how credit card companies make money. I went for a pre-hurricane bike ride today. I am in pretty poor shape. You can not ride once a week. I hope once work and school settle down I will be able to get on a reasonable schedule. It looks like Nations will be a struggle. But they all are so that is not a new thing. If I show up, keep moving forward I will cross the finish line. Of course you will be back in Harrisonburg by then. Ellen |
| 2011-08-27 2:17 PM in reply to: #3661989 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Zam92 - 2011-08-27 1:19 PM Steve, I looked up the article you mentioned. I think they have a point. It is hard to get non math students to get excited about quadratic equations. It does give then practice in abstract thinking but beyond that it is not useful in their lives. The building trades guys have to take precalculus so they have some exposure to right triangle trig but teh rest of the course is not at all relevant. I taught a course once where I could pick out what I wanted to teach from the text so I did taxes and probability, finance and linear programming. It was fun. I imagine that the math curriculum will gradually shift in the coming years. Kids need to understand spreadsheets and computer programming and how credit card companies make money. I went for a pre-hurricane bike ride today. I am in pretty poor shape. You can not ride once a week. I hope once work and school settle down I will be able to get on a reasonable schedule. It looks like Nations will be a struggle. But they all are so that is not a new thing. If I show up, keep moving forward I will cross the finish line. Of course you will be back in Harrisonburg by then. Ellen I was told there would be no math! |
| 2011-08-27 4:17 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
| Member 179 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Sorry Jeff. I am finished with that discussion. Back on topic. |
| 2011-08-27 4:20 PM in reply to: #3661847 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - Terrific race, Jeff, and as you know that is massive improvement over the course of a mere year. I don't think most pure runners make those kinds of inroads in their results, and you've done it while also taking swimming and cycling seriously. And not only that, but the cycling has been heavy -duty -- hardly the stuff that might count as "cross-training" fof a pure runner. Sweeter than sweet! As for the lower back stiffness, i'm not too sure. It could be a lean you assume while running seriously that isn't as pronounced on training runs, or it just might be tightening up as you bear down in races. Seeing as how you see it also in faster training runs, I would lean (as it were) towards the first idea. Is it possible that you do in fact lean more forward (which is desirable) when running at speed? Regards to the kittens! |
| 2011-08-27 4:27 PM in reply to: #3662172 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-08-27 4:20 PM JEFF - Terrific race, Jeff, and as you know that is massive improvement over the course of a mere year. I don't think most pure runners make those kinds of inroads in their results, and you've done it while also taking swimming and cycling seriously. And not only that, but the cycling has been heavy -duty -- hardly the stuff that might count as "cross-training" fof a pure runner. Sweeter than sweet! As for the lower back stiffness, i'm not too sure. It could be a lean you assume while running seriously that isn't as pronounced on training runs, or it just might be tightening up as you bear down in races. Seeing as how you see it also in faster training runs, I would lean (as it were) towards the first idea. Is it possible that you do in fact lean more forward (which is desirable) when running at speed? Regards to the kittens!
I'll try to take note of my lean....a few days before my next fast run, I hope. |
| 2011-08-27 4:29 PM in reply to: #3661989 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - The kids I taught on the Akwesasne Mohawk Reserve all have fairly close (no further removed than uncles) relatives who have done really, really well by smuggling. Could be cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, guns, humans; if it;s lucrative, they'll move it. The kids know that many of those relatives (dad? older brother? cousin?) didn't finish high school, or if it was finished it was done very poorly, and so the inquisitive grade five mind will do its own breed of math and conclude that the quickest well to some semblance of prosperity is by getting out of school asap and into some smuggling-related endeavor. Hmmm. As for me being in Harrisonburg when you finish -- uh-uh! I will be there to greet you, and we will celebrate our accomplishments. At some point you're right ---- I do have to head off to H-burg. But that won't be until later in the afternoon; I'm at Nations for however long is necessary! Looking forward to the kitten* kaboodle, in fact! * Must've gotten that from Jeff's new family members! |
| 2011-08-27 5:20 PM in reply to: #3662172 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-08-27 4:20 PM JEFF - Terrific race, Jeff, and as you know that is massive improvement over the course of a mere year. I don't think most pure runners make those kinds of inroads in their results, and you've done it while also taking swimming and cycling seriously. And not only that, but the cycling has been heavy -duty -- hardly the stuff that might count as "cross-training" fof a pure runner. Sweeter than sweet! I'm feeling the re-emergence of a previous competitive, younger, sort of cocky self, in running events anyway. I'm sure I don't have whatever "it" is for cycling races or swimming. I can't quite muster that "run em into the ground" mentality for triathlons yet but it's fun to feel the juices again for runs. Shaved my legs, haven't done that since 2001, I had decided to grow up and stop being bike trash traveling to low level races living in my tent or van and working for penuts during the week. I ended up living in a warehouse working as an intern for free until I got my counseling license. Bathing in a sink ended my leg shaving habit.... they look good now though
Edited by Av8rTx 2011-08-27 5:55 PM |
| 2011-08-27 6:25 PM in reply to: #3653050 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED RACE REPORT -- Park City Mossman (1500 - 25 - 6.2) Bridgeport, CT, 21 Aug. '11 PRE-RACE Late sign-up, and all that was left were charity spots for an extra $50. Decided to do it on Thursday, and left early saturday morning -- not before wrenching my back heaving the bike in the car. This bothered me all the way down and until I ewent to sleep at about 10:30, but was fine in the morning. WHEW! I got to the race site sat. aft by about 4:30, with the drive down being 440 miles. i got my race stuff and used the on-site mechanic to make a couple of fixes -- actually, more than I planned on. Found a motel to check into, spent oer an hour looking for a decent eatery, settled for a sprawl of a buffet, and was back to the motel by 8, and alseep by 10:30. Woke up at 4 and headed to the race, arriving as the 6th vehicle and claiming a great parking spot only about 100 yards from transition. I got the end spot of my assigned-range rack, fought off hordes of vicious little balck mosquitoes, and waited to meet Alex. We made contact by about 5:30, I think, hung out some, kept up the process of getting ready, and were set to go. Breakfast was bagel and tea, and I had part of a Clif Mojo bar, and a PowerGel, before the swim. SWIM In Long Isalnd Sound, which was nice and calm. We were both in the thrid of three waves, and got to see the other waves struggle with extensive shallows for quite a ways heading out diagonally to the first buoy. By the time our wave started, I was aware that many guys around me were talking about running parallel along the shoreline through the shallows before starting the swim in a mnoire direct line to that first buoy, and I decided to follow suit. When we started, I ran for over a munte and could feel my HR spiking higher with each high-step through the anle- and clf-deep water. I rested for about five seconds before didving in, and was off -- finally actually SWIMMING. It was a good one for me, second good one in a row. I had good, fast arm turnover, and my sighting was almost perfect with no significant wandering to my right. As at West Point, this swim was counter-clockwise with buoys to the left, and even though I am a right-side breather, buoys to my left help my sighting and inhibit my wandering ways. I apssed lots of folks in the two previous ways, and made it out of the water and over the mat in 24:25. A great time for me.....but i'm sure the course was a bit short. Sigh. 24:25 2/6 a.g.; 56/243 o.a. T1 The longish run up the beach and into transition gave me time to remove my westuit top and get the bottoms down to my hips, so at my space the rest was easy. 1:15 1st a.g.; 52nd o.a. BIKE Simple course --- five loops on perfectly flat par roads, clsoed to traffic. At each end was a narrow traffic island, so while caution was slightly needed, it was faster than doing a 180 at a cone. Each subsequent traverse revealed more small tricks of "attacking" the course, so it was fun feeling prgressivley more proficient. After the 4th circuit I was averaging about 22.4mph, and knew I had to reel it back some for the final five miles. So I did some soft-pedalling at times, and in trhe final 1/2 mile I practiced what I ahev preached here -- alternating standing grinds and faster spins, seated. I also knew that the wind had picked up from the west as the bike progressed, so that would affect the run some. I came close to a full wipe-out at the dismount line, trying my "flying dismount" right on the heels of swerving to avoid a dopey older guy wandering across the narrow roadway to the dismount line. Ack! One 20oz bottle of HEED. 1:07:09 (22.3mph) 1st a.g., 33rd o.a. T2 Only two bikes in ahead of me on my M45+ rack, and I was sure they belonged to two "youngsters", so I didn't rush it too much. Put BodyGlide on my feet, and was off. 1:20 1st a.g., 138 o.a. (not too impressive) RUN About as simple as the bike -- two out-and-backs along the boardwalk (actually, concrete surface). Got out well, passed a 58-yearold and chatted with him on the fly, and kept pacing along. No shade, really, and there was the wind on each return part. Approaching the first turnaround a few of us were diverted a ways off the course, parallel to it but describing a wider arc, and that might've cost me 20 seconds total. Kind of aggravating at the time, but ultimately no big deal. I never felt great on the run, but kept a decent pace throughout. I probably did push the bike a bit too hard if I hoped I would break 47 minutes, and ended up misising by 48 seconds. There was some talk that the course was maybe a tad long, but given how I felt through the whole 10km, it seemed close to 6.2 miles. One gel on the run, Gatorade at three aid stations total. Passed just once, by a 37-year-old "punk"! 47:48 (7:42/mile) 1st a.g., 38th o.a. 1:21:58 1/6 a.g (2nd place was 11' back, 3rd was 19' back) 34/243 finishers POST-RACE VERY fine spending over an hour with Alex, and then I followed her for about 50 miles until our paths diverged. Great race ambience overall, and for winning the age group I got a free entry into next year's race. It's the day after Jane's wedding, though, so whether or not I can use the free entry.............    |
| 2011-08-28 10:24 AM in reply to: #3662248 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED STEVE - Nice Race Report Work has been quite insane so I haven't gotten to finish mine yet...and with Irene hitting I haven't gotten out to train since Thursday when I swam. Hope to get in a ride tomorrow and maybe a swim. Hope everyone is safe! Alex |
| 2011-08-28 9:56 PM in reply to: #3662203 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - That was a very uplifting post, Jeff! The roadrunner story is a good one; any roadrunner sighting bodes well for life as we know it. I think I'm overdue for a trip to roadrunner country, as it's been well over 25 years soince I last saw one. Good story of leg-shaving, too -- congrats on feeling the inspiration to do that! After my bad crash two years ago, I hav started doing my arms when I am either racing or training in heavy rain. Even though the crash was on a brilliantly clear morning, I learned the difference between tending to raod rash on smooth legs as opposed to on un-smooth arms. I wouldn't want to suffer THAT again, so they get done when I think my chances rise for having an incident. That said, my recent string of mishaps makes me think maybe I should be doing it ALL the time! Last but definitely not least, that is grat that you afe feeling competitive again. And while it is just in running races now, I dare say that it will exztend to all aspects of triathlons (or duathlons) before too long. After all, you have a pedigree in bike racing, so in time that should be readily tapped-into; can hardly wait for THAT to happen for you! Back when, my forays into competitiveness is traithlons were hinged on the run, seeing as how that was the field from which I entered triathlon. I think for most people they have a single strength that carries them a certain way, and all the while they are working on the other areas and trying to strengthen them. It is one of the benefits of making a commitment of sorts to multisport, just to provide the time to get solid (or a reasonable facsimilie thereof....) across the board. May you sooner rather than later cultivate that "run 'em into the ground" mentality. ROAR!!! |
| 2011-08-30 11:42 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Bib numbers assigned for Branson, I get #207. Labor Day I have a sprint tri in Plano as a warm up. Hoping for a <6 min swim (300m), 45 min 15 mile bike and <25 run, 5k |
| 2011-08-31 6:51 AM in reply to: #3666855 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - That's a decent number, akin to mine - 2157 - at Nation's on 9/11. May our numbers with 2/7 bookends confer decent races for us! In another bib number coincidence, mine (286) at West Point on the 14th was the one Alex had at Mossman on the 21st. I'd guess the odds of that happening between two people who know each other is pretty slim. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN THE COSMIC SCHEME OF THINGS??? Those are very reasonable goals for the Plano sprint, as your training strongly suggests that they all within your reach (well, not if the swim course is grossly mismeasured! ). But I will send mojo to the RDs that they succeed at getting 300m accurate to within four inches either way. That should be their own reasonable goal! |
| 2011-08-31 7:50 AM in reply to: #3666948 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-08-31 6:51 AM JEFF - That's a decent number, akin to mine - 2157 - at Nation's on 9/11. May our numbers with 2/7 bookends confer decent races for us! In another bib number coincidence, mine (286) at West Point on the 14th was the one Alex had at Mossman on the 21st. I'd guess the odds of that happening between two people who know each other is pretty slim. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN THE COSMIC SCHEME OF THINGS??? Those are very reasonable goals for the Plano sprint, as your training strongly suggests that they all within your reach (well, not if the swim course is grossly mismeasured! ). But I will send mojo to the RDs that they succeed at getting 300m accurate to within four inches either way. That should be their own reasonable goal! Pool swim! At Branson, I will be in the 6th swim off at 7:20, Royal Blue swim caps Edited by Av8rTx 2011-08-31 7:56 AM |
| 2011-08-31 8:26 AM in reply to: #3667024 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED JEFF - Well, they should get the 300 correct, then --- but is it meters or yards?? At Nations I am in Wave 12 of about 26, I think it is, and I can't remember my color. The exact start time is unclear, with just a range being given of 7:00-7:45. That's the same range as is posted for anyone in the first 15 or so waves, and what adds to the oddness is that the start is sort of time-trial, with 12 swimmers going off together every 15 seconds. I don't know if within Wave 12 we will be lined up according to bib number, or whether the first 12 who go off will be the first 12 in the corral. (Moo!) This'll be a new one for me. |
| 2011-08-31 8:31 AM in reply to: #3667092 |
Master 2236 Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-08-31 8:26 AM JEFF - Well, they should get the 300 correct, then --- but is it meters or yards?? At Nations I am in Wave 12 of about 26, I think it is, and I can't remember my color. The exact start time is unclear, with just a range being given of 7:00-7:45. That's the same range as is posted for anyone in the first 15 or so waves, and what adds to the oddness is that the start is sort of time-trial, with 12 swimmers going off together every 15 seconds. I don't know if within Wave 12 we will be lined up according to bib number, or whether the first 12 who go off will be the first 12 in the corral. (Moo!) This'll be a new one for me. Meters, Thursday night I think I'll throw in a 325 yard TT during my swim and see how I do. I am contemplating practicing crossing under the ropes to change lanes as well. http://blacklandtri.com/ |
| 2011-08-31 8:39 AM in reply to: #3667024 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED ELLEN - Hello, 2034. This is 2157, checking in. I see that I am now in Wave 12, meaning we can't orchestrate our start so we jump in together. Rats. I have been skulking around at last year's results and then checking to see who from '10 is there this year in my a.g., and in doing this I see that T1 times were very long, with none in M60-64 beingunder 4 minutes. Yikes! I guess this refelcts a forever run from the water to the entry to transition, and it must be longer even than Chicago and New York. But uis there something I'm missing -- maybe a climb up a rope, or running a gauntlet? You had a good a.g. placement last year, especially given that you were in the final year of the a.g. And if you had shaved off a few minutes from T1, it would've/could've been about 3 or 4 spots higher. Overall, you must've been very pleased with how Nation's went for you, yes? Finally, is there still room at the inn there for Friday night? If so, I will trade it for dinner at wherever the two of you would like to go. Whadaya think? And I mention Friday only because I should probably be on my own on Saturday, just giving me full latitude to awake at whatever ungodly hour will ensure that I'm poised in my car at the front of the line of cars at Lot A at 4:00 (or is it 4:30?). How are all your systems? Any niggles or wonks that have you worried? I'm seemingly kind of okay, at least for now, but am constantly glancing over my shoulder to see what's about to ambush me! |
| 2011-08-31 10:42 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 283 New York | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey everyone... just checking in to say HI... When is Nationals? Is it coming up soon? I signed up for the Bassman Aquabike in Oct. that will finish out my season (I think...) Then I can get back to a training rhythm that will help me drop my last 30 lbs or so and get me ready for next season! Hope everyone is safe after our latest storm... looks like they are forecasting another one... ( I hope they are wrong about that!) Good training and racing! Alex |
| 2011-08-31 8:18 PM in reply to: #3667116 |
| Member 179 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Steve, That is an ok plan. Come and stay Friday and see how you feel about Saturday. I guarantee you that you can be running on the treadmill all night and it will not matter to us. You can plan your schedule out and be very comfortable here . I will be up at very early and meet you in the kitchen. It will take about 40 -45 minutes to get to a pretty good parking spot and if you are there before 5:00am you will be fine. If you want to arrive earlier (4:00 am) then back it all up to what you are comfortable with. We will be totally cool with whatever you decide to be the time to arrive. My husband will not go down in the morning but he will not be disturbed by the early activities, he is used to it. You decide and do what is in your comfort zone. I can probably learn something from your experience. Even though I am not feeling ready for the race it will be fun. I am looking forward to it now. I don't have enough experience to know if the distance from the swim to the bike is extra long. I don't think it is longer than Eagleman. But it could be. It is a fun race and well run. The scenery is spectacular (if you take time to look). Whatever happens .....happens. That is what makes it all so interesting. I will be in touch with numbers so you can reach me by phone. Ellen
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