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kaburns1214 - 2012-10-28 4:46 PM

So, we're dealing with yet another "100 year" weather event in the northeast.  I just sent this e-mail to IMFL:

I'm sure you've already received this question, however are there any plans to allow participants traveling from the north east to check in late (on Friday) if flights are cancelled / delayed due to Hurricane Sandy?  I am scheduled to fly out of Hartford on Wednesday and it appears that there is good chance the flight may be cancelled or delayed a day or more.  Any information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

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Kelly Burns Gallagher

 

Let us know what they say.....hope it doesn't ruin your mojo. How are you feeling?

Very tired.  I'm hoping to start feeling better this week.

Really concerned that flights are going to get cancelled and get backed up.  Im booked on Southwest with a connection through Baltimore.  Could be a not do great scenario.



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But assuming you make it there Kelly (because you will) the weather should be good right? Everything passed thru by then?
2012-10-28 4:23 PM
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karen26.2 - 2012-10-28 5:21 PM But assuming you make it there Kelly (because you will) the weather should be good right? Everything passed thru by then?

The weather for race day looks good.  No wind and a little on the warm side (high in the low 80s).  The adventure will be getting there.

2012-10-28 4:24 PM
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Opinions? My husband & I have an airline credit we need to use by April. Where would you go (in the states) and why? I'm pushing for NY because I've never been, but he thinks Colorado, which I know I would enjoy too. No beaches, we like hiking and cooler climate. Thoughts?
2012-10-28 4:26 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2012-10-28 5:23 PM

karen26.2 - 2012-10-28 5:21 PM But assuming you make it there Kelly (because you will) the weather should be good right? Everything passed thru by then?

The weather for race day looks good.  No wind and a little on the warm side (high in the low 80s).  The adventure will be getting there.

I bet IM cones through for those arriving late due to weather. They are good handling the problems that crop up. I hope your travels go as planned.
2012-10-28 4:57 PM
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karen26.2 - 2012-10-28 5:24 PM Opinions? My husband & I have an airline credit we need to use by April. Where would you go (in the states) and why? I'm pushing for NY because I've never been, but he thinks Colorado, which I know I would enjoy too. No beaches, we like hiking and cooler climate. Thoughts?

You come to NYC and Shaun and I will head down and give you a tour of our favorite places in the city.



2012-10-28 6:13 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2012-10-28 5:57 PM

karen26.2 - 2012-10-28 5:24 PM Opinions? My husband & I have an airline credit we need to use by April. Where would you go (in the states) and why? I'm pushing for NY because I've never been, but he thinks Colorado, which I know I would enjoy too. No beaches, we like hiking and cooler climate. Thoughts?

You come to NYC and Shaun and I will head down and give you a tour of our favorite places in the city.

I lived in NYC for a couple years.  If you decide to do the city, let me know, as I have lots and lots of great vegetarian dining options (assuming the places still exist...LOL).  I was a militant vegetarian back then.  Colorado is beautiful, too.  Asthma-inducing mountain climbs  

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kaburns1214 - 2012-10-28 5:23 PM

karen26.2 - 2012-10-28 5:21 PM But assuming you make it there Kelly (because you will) the weather should be good right? Everything passed thru by then?

The weather for race day looks good.  No wind and a little on the warm side (high in the low 80s).  The adventure will be getting there.

Fantastic race day weather!!  I hope you have no problems getting there.  I'm hopeful WTC will give you a positive response to your note if your flight is rescheduled.  

2012-10-28 6:22 PM
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Did anyone else find the 2 hour Kona broadcast to be disappointing?  It didn't feel that it was put together well at all.  I appreciate getting to watch triathlon on tv, but I wanted a bit more.  

My husband said that from an outsiders perspective, he missed the AG stories.  He can identify a handful of pros.  He said he grew up watching this broadcast, and this year's was a turn off the tv moment for the non-triathlete.  He watched the entire thing for me (his words).  LOL 

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Maybe less of the beginning interviews and more race coverage, including AG coverage
2012-10-28 6:46 PM
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Jeremy finished MCM in 3:31 .... CongratsCouldn't find Larkin???


2012-10-28 7:34 PM
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carrie639 - 2012-10-28 7:46 PM Jeremy finished MCM in 3:31 .... CongratsCouldn't find Larkin???

From FB I believe Larkin finished in 3:59.

2012-10-28 7:53 PM
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I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more
2012-10-28 8:03 PM
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Hey guys! I did finish in 3:59. I just now got up and around. I will have a full race report later. My legs are beat! Basically mile 20 on was all mentally tough and physical as the pain set in. GREAT race though! If you have not done MCM you should. The reason you may not of found me is a I register with my first name which is Thomas. I go by my middle name since I am the 3rd(III). Good luck Kelly getting down to Florida!
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Congrats on the mary times guys. 

 

Best way to make disposable arm warmers?  Have a feeling when I come out of the water next Sunday I'm going to need something.

2012-10-29 5:58 AM
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Buy cheap looooooong socks and cut toe part off. Probably easier if you're a girl because they make knee high tight fitting cute design socks.

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kidtri33 - 2012-10-28 9:03 PM Hey guys! I did finish in 3:59. I just now got up and around. I will have a full race report later. My legs are beat! Basically mile 20 on was all mentally tough and physical as the pain set in. GREAT race though! If you have not done MCM you should. The reason you may not of found me is a I register with my first name which is Thomas. I go by my middle name since I am the 3rd(III). Good luck Kelly getting down to Florida!

Congratulations on a fantastic job!!!  

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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 8:53 PM I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more

See, I like to watch the normal folk race!  I don't need the maudlin stories, but I do like to see how fast AGers pull it off. 

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Anyone else have a mind that wanders during swims?  I do this all the time, and then I lose all focus and my splits are screwy.  My lats are feeling it today because I used paddles.  Love those paddles!!!
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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 10:53 PM

Congrats on the mary times guys. 

 

Best way to make disposable arm warmers?  Have a feeling when I come out of the water next Sunday I'm going to need something.

Karen is right -- tube socks and cut the feet off.

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kidtri33 - 2012-10-28 9:03 PM Hey guys! I did finish in 3:59. I just now got up and around. I will have a full race report later. My legs are beat! Basically mile 20 on was all mentally tough and physical as the pain set in. GREAT race though! If you have not done MCM you should. The reason you may not of found me is a I register with my first name which is Thomas. I go by my middle name since I am the 3rd(III). Good luck Kelly getting down to Florida!

CONGRATS!



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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 8:53 PM I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more

Here's my thought.  If triathlon is going to be viewed as a real second tier type sport (along with things like swimming, track and field, etc.) the broadcast needs to focus on the pros.  I know people find AGers either inspiring or want to see the AG race BUT you never see coverage of masters swim meets along with the olympics or high school track meets along side diamond league covergage.  If we want the sport to mature and the pros to get paid what they deserve, there needs to be good coverage focusing on the pro race.  Its sad but the winner of the world cross fit games wins $600K.   The winner of IM Hawaii wins $125K (and that's with this years increase). 

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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 8:53 PM I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more

Here's my thought.  If triathlon is going to be viewed as a real second tier type sport (along with things like swimming, track and field, etc.) the broadcast needs to focus on the pros.  I know people find AGers either inspiring or want to see the AG race BUT you never see coverage of masters swim meets along with the olympics or high school track meets along side diamond league covergage.  If we want the sport to mature and the pros to get paid what they deserve, there needs to be good coverage focusing on the pro race.  Its sad but the winner of the world cross fit games wins $600K.   The winner of IM Hawaii wins $125K (and that's with this years increase). 

 

So much truth here.  If triathlon is ever going to push more mainstream they have to play up the pros, make them have fan bases and then play up any rivalries.  The American public loves them a good rivalry.  Oh and Jen seeing how fast AGers do it would be cool, but if they show AGers it's a sob story not how Joe Blow with a 50 hour a week job still can go sub 10 at the World Champs.

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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 8:53 PM I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more

Here's my thought.  If triathlon is going to be viewed as a real second tier type sport (along with things like swimming, track and field, etc.) the broadcast needs to focus on the pros.  I know people find AGers either inspiring or want to see the AG race BUT you never see coverage of masters swim meets along with the olympics or high school track meets along side diamond league covergage.  If we want the sport to mature and the pros to get paid what they deserve, there needs to be good coverage focusing on the pro race.  Its sad but the winner of the world cross fit games wins $600K.   The winner of IM Hawaii wins $125K (and that's with this years increase). 

 

So much truth here.  If triathlon is ever going to push more mainstream they have to play up the pros, make them have fan bases and then play up any rivalries.  The American public loves them a good rivalry.  Oh and Jen seeing how fast AGers do it would be cool, but if they show AGers it's a sob story not how Joe Blow with a 50 hour a week job still can go sub 10 at the World Champs.

I think you're both right, but I don't think it will ever be a mainstream sport (or second tier).  Crossfit has reached the masses.  My brother-in-law does it and is all into it.  This country is too obsessed with football for any second tier sport to get any serious consideration.  LOL  It will never really reach people like my husband or his friends.  I mean, he said he watched it growing up because of the stories and cool visual look of the broadcast.  It was inspiring and awesome for him to watch.  Now he watches it with growing interest because of me, but he still wants some of the sob stories.  I much prefer to watch Joe Blow with the 50 hour a week job going sub 10 at World Champs  

That aside, I do think they did an OK job following the pros.  Why in the world was there so much footage of Macca though?  How in the world was he relevant in this race after passing on it last year?  I understand following Crowie, but Maccca?  We saw none of the other pros interviewed at all.  The race was aired 2 weeks ago (right?).  Plenty of time to put that together.  

They all looked like they had Zoom bleaching 2 days before the race with that lighting, too.  Ha ha.     

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uhcoog - 2012-10-28 8:53 PM I'd prefer no AG'er coverage to more

Here's my thought.  If triathlon is going to be viewed as a real second tier type sport (along with things like swimming, track and field, etc.) the broadcast needs to focus on the pros.  I know people find AGers either inspiring or want to see the AG race BUT you never see coverage of masters swim meets along with the olympics or high school track meets along side diamond league covergage.  If we want the sport to mature and the pros to get paid what they deserve, there needs to be good coverage focusing on the pro race.  Its sad but the winner of the world cross fit games wins $600K.   The winner of IM Hawaii wins $125K (and that's with this years increase). 

 

So much truth here.  If triathlon is ever going to push more mainstream they have to play up the pros, make them have fan bases and then play up any rivalries.  The American public loves them a good rivalry.  Oh and Jen seeing how fast AGers do it would be cool, but if they show AGers it's a sob story not how Joe Blow with a 50 hour a week job still can go sub 10 at the World Champs.

I think you're both right, but I don't think it will ever be a mainstream sport (or second tier).  Crossfit has reached the masses.  My brother-in-law does it and is all into it.  This country is too obsessed with football for any second tier sport to get any serious consideration.  LOL  It will never really reach people like my husband or his friends.  I mean, he said he watched it growing up because of the stories and cool visual look of the broadcast.  It was inspiring and awesome for him to watch.  Now he watches it with growing interest because of me, but he still wants some of the sob stories.  I much prefer to watch Joe Blow with the 50 hour a week job going sub 10 at World Champs  

That aside, I do think they did an OK job following the pros.  Why in the world was there so much footage of Macca though?  How in the world was he relevant in this race after passing on it last year?  I understand following Crowie, but Maccca?  We saw none of the other pros interviewed at all.  The race was aired 2 weeks ago (right?).  Plenty of time to put that together.  

They all looked like they had Zoom bleaching 2 days before the race with that lighting, too.  Ha ha.     

They show Macca because he runs his mouth and the viewing public loves smack talk.

Lots of people follow sports that they don't participate in.  The key is, as Scott said, getting people to know the pros, understand the rivalries and get invested.  Unfortunately the NBC broadcast failed at that.  Also remember the reason the broadcast was 2 hours and aired 2 weeks after the race was because of Lance Armstrong.  NBC struck a new deal with WTC in the early spring when Armstrong was attempting to KQ as a pro.  The TV deal was part of the Armstrong package.  So the original plan was for a Lance love fest.  I don't think a new game plan was ever solidly in place after Lance was placed under investigation.

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