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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() suzielea - 2011-04-19 9:33 PM Iwilltri - Just take it lap by lap and concentrate on getting the distance in. That's what I'm doing right now. I'm not sure how I'd even time my laps right now anyway - I know the clock goes round twice from last time I went with BFF - but I don't know how many times it really goes round. Simon - hope you get better soon Kate - good work on the swim stuff. Hope the pain goes away soon I'll report back on my swim after I come home. Thanks Suzanne. I have decided to take swimming lessons at a swim school near me. I am not confident about my strokes so I want to re-learn them. |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() 50andgettingfit - 2011-04-20 12:20 AM Nice bike Lori! How fun is this year going to be??? ![]() Thanks Johanne! The weather here has been less than desirable but at least there is no snow. Thank goodness for trainers |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mike_D - 2011-04-20 7:14 AM Chet - congrats on the race. Hanging on the beach in San Diego sounds like fun. Better than the overcase & low 50's here in Boston Lori -- great looking bike! Looks fast! Simon - Sorry about the DNS for London. How long until IM Europe? What are you following for a plan? I did nothing this AM as I was feeling like garbage, and have been very tired the past couple days. I needed the rest. May do something tonight, as I don't feel right about just blowing off a workout. Hey Mike, thanks for taking a look! That's exactly what I loved about the bike when I test rode it. It accelarated so quickly I hear ya about how you're feeling. Sometimes we just need a day or two to recoup before we can go on. That is where balance comes in. Our bodies let us know what they need. Hope it worked for you! |
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() WittyCityGirl - 2011-04-20 10:29 AM Lori-I hope that pain goes away, such a bummer! From my own experience, I think you're doing the right thing by taking time off. You don't lose fitness over a few days, so you're doing the right thing by resting so that you can be healthy at the start line on race day. Iwilltri2 - 2011-04-19 11:42 AM Hey everyone, Sorry haven't been on in a few days
Thanks Sara. It has been hard not to do anything but when I try, the pain rears its ugly head |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Enjoyed the lovely anti-spring weather after work with my normal 3.4 mile route. Legs were fried / tired from all the time in the pool lately. Need to either take a day off tomorrow or take it a bit easy. Good news is that even tired, ran quite a solid time. I need to take either (i) go through another 6 week cycle of the "Time Crunched Triathlete" program, (ii) put together some sort of plan I can follow for the next month or so, or (iii) just keep doing what "feels" right each day. With my engineering background (earned the title 'Captain Data" at one job), I'm thinking (i) or (ii) HAVE to be the right answer. BUT, the fact that I've felt so good about the progress over the last few weeks, makes me think that relaxing and training by feel may be right. What do you think Sara? How do you balance making a plan and over analyzing training? Think that this question creeps in to all of our minds -- and drives data geeks like me absolutely crazy!!! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Good question Curt, I do not have an engineering background but you could put OCD after my name. I am struggling to take all the information I'm collecting and putting it into practice/drills/races. Sometimes I feel overloaded with useless information. I know part of it is having someone help you decipher that information into improving limiters(Thank You Sara) but at this stage in my racing I would rather spend money on gear and races rather than a personal trainer or coach. I'm leaning a lot on my daughter's experience but she does not have the time to train me, I just get daughterly advice. She tells me I need to be patient and I know that, but I want it NOW! Lori- Bike looks great! Hope you get to feeling better so you can ride outside. Mike- Glad to hear your foot is doing better. Hopefully its on the mend now. I probably will not be as active as its only 2 weeks to IM St George and 3 weeks to our Tri in Tempe, but I will continue to lurk and pop in here and there. croixfan - 2011-04-20 7:30 PM Enjoyed the lovely anti-spring weather after work with my normal 3.4 mile route. Legs were fried / tired from all the time in the pool lately. Need to either take a day off tomorrow or take it a bit easy. Good news is that even tired, ran quite a solid time. I need to take either (i) go through another 6 week cycle of the "Time Crunched Triathlete" program, (ii) put together some sort of plan I can follow for the next month or so, or (iii) just keep doing what "feels" right each day. With my engineering background (earned the title 'Captain Data" at one job), I'm thinking (i) or (ii) HAVE to be the right answer. BUT, the fact that I've felt so good about the progress over the last few weeks, makes me think that relaxing and training by feel may be right. What do you think Sara? How do you balance making a plan and over analyzing training? Think that this question creeps in to all of our minds -- and drives data geeks like me absolutely crazy!!! Edited by pyroman1_1 2011-04-20 11:20 PM |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Looks like you've all been doing pretty well. I got in a 33 minute walk today because I couldn't be bothered waiting for the bus and decided to walk to the bank - this includes hill work as you have to go over the overpass to get anywhere in the cbd of my town from where I live. I ended up with 1.18 miles. This included a few "runs" - more like shuffling - across roads towards the end. I also did 1 full run across half a road after my cool down and lunch. My other knee started playing up when I was walking around the shopping centre along with my ankle but I did some seated leg raises and it seems to have helped. I'm still going to take another rest day before attempting my LD walk on Saturday though. I also put a yoga kit and biking essentials kit (head and tail lights along with a computer) on layby (I think you call it lay away) so I'll be throwing the yoga in to my routine in about 10 weeks. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sounds great Suzi -- taking advantage of the missing bus to get in an extra workout. So much of this is mental / willingness to make the tough choices. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() croixfan - 2011-04-20 8:30 PM Enjoyed the lovely anti-spring weather after work with my normal 3.4 mile route. Legs were fried / tired from all the time in the pool lately. Need to either take a day off tomorrow or take it a bit easy. Good news is that even tired, ran quite a solid time. I need to take either (i) go through another 6 week cycle of the "Time Crunched Triathlete" program, (ii) put together some sort of plan I can follow for the next month or so, or (iii) just keep doing what "feels" right each day. With my engineering background (earned the title 'Captain Data" at one job), I'm thinking (i) or (ii) HAVE to be the right answer. BUT, the fact that I've felt so good about the progress over the last few weeks, makes me think that relaxing and training by feel may be right. What do you think Sara? How do you balance making a plan and over analyzing training? Think that this question creeps in to all of our minds -- and drives data geeks like me absolutely crazy!!! Curt -- do you have any upcoming races? I get the feeling you need something to train for, rather than just 'doing it by feel'. Get a good plan which fits your schedule, and use it to be ready for the race. Plus when you get to the race, you have some justification for all that work ![]() If you can get a copy, I highly recommend Don Fink's "Be Iron Fit". He talks about multiple aspects of training, and addresses the whole 'by feel' methodology (hint: he's not a fan). I'm glad I took yesterday off. Felt like a million bucks this AM, hopped out of bed at 4 am, and did an intense 50 min interval session on the bike, then went for another (pain free!!!) run (1.2 miles). I felt freakin' awesome after I was done. The bike workouts are quickly becoming my favorite thing, despite the fact that I feel like hurling during most of them. Very happy with the progress I'm making, and some day I'll actually ride on a real road (all trainer time right now).
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Weather here is still marginal at best. Wind, rain, sleet. Fun. Running on the elliptical. The treadmill seems to injure me. I have been procrastinating about the pool. It's not my friend! Today is the day. Happy spring, everyone! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey group! I have to run out for work stuff, but wanted to post a link: http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Swimming/How_To_Pull_Underwater_2009.html
What do you think? Make sure to check out the videos! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() WittyCityGirl - 2011-04-21 8:49 AM Hey group! I have to run out for work stuff, but wanted to post a link: http://www.slowtwitch.com/Training/Swimming/How_To_Pull_Underwater_2009.html
What do you think? Make sure to check out the videos! Love the video. This is *exactly* what my swim instructor had me working on this past Sunday. My pull has been more of an "S" shape with my hand looking like a flipper (turned out slightly). It feels weird to do the pull like this, but even after just a short practice, and some drills, you can tell teh difference. I have mucho work to do on this... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm headed down to Los Angeles this morning to bring my youngest daughter her new used car. She was in a car accident in February and totaled her first new used car that she bought herself. Luckily she was fine! She had an insurance check to cover the loss and she's been shopping away. I told her if she researched for cars around San Jose, I would do the legwork for her since she's in college down south. We finally found a good car thank goodness. So I'll head down today so we can have some 'bonding' time tonight. My middle daughter flys in from Tempe tomorrow morning and we 3 will continue the bonding I think I've actually been able to plan all of my workouts in except for one long bike. I can't bring my bike down and I just can't fit in a 4.5 hour bike at a gym with all the family stuff. I think I'll survive without and just try to keep the Easter eating under semi control
Thanks for the swim link Sara. I looked at it but I think I want to look again and see if I can try it on my next swim. I really want someone to video my swim so I can see what exactly I'm doing.
Hope everyone has a great Easter weekend, Johanne |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() good news! ---well, kinda...As of yesterday, the hip pain was gone...As of yesterday afternoon, my shoulder decided to get REALLY angry--at this time, I cant lift my left arm more than halfway from my side(laterally I can, just not front). I iced it all last night, and its just as bad this morning. this is doubly angering me cause I'm left handed!!! I'm hoping it will fade, just like my hip pain did. In the mean time, I will fiddle with how my bike is set up, just in case thats part of the problem; I'm also going to be good friends with advil for a bit! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Iwilltri2 - 2011-04-20 8:38 PM WittyCityGirl - 2011-04-20 10:29 AM Thanks Sara. It has been hard not to do anything but when I try, the pain rears its ugly head
I asked my husband and he said it's hard to tell if it's a hip flexor issue, but definitely get it checked out pronto. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Curt-a wise man once told me to follow 100% of the plan 90% of the time... if you do your own thing on how you feel then you're not really following anything unless you have specific weekly goals to aim for. My experience with HIM and IM training... I started each plan roughly 6 weeks early so that I could have time for sickness, injury, and then flex time to either keep ramping up or repeat part of the training plan... I always went back and repeated the training plan with the intent to get *slightly* faster (going fast hurts us, especially with running). That whole 10% rule to adding distance? See how you can take the plan you've been following and either try a few workouts at a faster pace or add 10% of the volume on... either way you're gaining speed and endurance and have some guidance. What do you think?
croixfan - 2011-04-20 9:30 PM Enjoyed the lovely anti-spring weather after work with my normal 3.4 mile route. Legs were fried / tired from all the time in the pool lately. Need to either take a day off tomorrow or take it a bit easy. Good news is that even tired, ran quite a solid time. I need to take either (i) go through another 6 week cycle of the "Time Crunched Triathlete" program, (ii) put together some sort of plan I can follow for the next month or so, or (iii) just keep doing what "feels" right each day. With my engineering background (earned the title 'Captain Data" at one job), I'm thinking (i) or (ii) HAVE to be the right answer. BUT, the fact that I've felt so good about the progress over the last few weeks, makes me think that relaxing and training by feel may be right. What do you think Sara? How do you balance making a plan and over analyzing training? Think that this question creeps in to all of our minds -- and drives data geeks like me absolutely crazy!!! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Swam 1000 yards non-stop in 27:43 (2:43, 2:54, (3:14) - 2:55, 2:49, 2:48, 2:47, 2:47, 2:45, 2:40, 2:34). On the third 100, had to wait for a kid swimming the wrong way so I can't say it was a "pure" 1000! But, we'll call it a new PR as previous PR was 28:00 flat and I'm sure that I'll be smoking this time in the very near future. Think I've hit a milestone with the swimming. While my form is still terrible, it has progressed to the point where I seem to be past the point of tiring myself out. At the end of the 1000, was fine to go on AND that was even with pushing the pace a bit in the second 500. On the plan thing, believe you're right Sara. I'm struggling right now with the weather / getting in the way of biking. I'll work on putting something together over the weekend. Wish I had a bit more discipline on getting up in the AM and was not so tired. To do what I really want to, requires a few more hours than the evenings allow. I am a bit nervous about adding pace to the plan as my legs seemed to really bother me when I pushed too hard. However, the 10% distance thing is a good idea and I definitely need to apply it. Edited by croixfan 2011-04-21 6:35 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Our Ragnar team at the finish. Had a good mt bike ride today and hope to swim tomorrow. Have a good night. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pyroman1_1 - 2011-04-21 12:18 AM Good question Curt, I do not have an engineering background but you could put OCD after my name. I am struggling to take all the information I'm collecting and putting it into practice/drills/races. Sometimes I feel overloaded with useless information. I know part of it is having someone help you decipher that information into improving limiters(Thank You Sara) but at this stage in my racing I would rather spend money on gear and races rather than a personal trainer or coach. I'm leaning a lot on my daughter's experience but she does not have the time to train me, I just get daughterly advice. She tells me I need to be patient and I know that, but I want it NOW! I'm with you Dave-I've been putting $ into the gear. It was easier for me to pick gear for the swimming and running because I was more comfortable with those sports, but not with cycling. I have considered going to a cycling camp. But, for kicks and giggles let's look at something... For Ironman Lake Placid I placed 409 overall on the swim (1:04), 2293 on the bike (7:40, a 14.6 mph pace-I was called out for "sandbagging!"Ha, I wish!) and 1961 (5:29) on the run with a time of 14:26:33 (1998/2251). HUGE difference in placing in each individual sport. Let's say I worked on my cycling and hit the pace that the 409th person overall on the bike hit... that's 5:48 (19 mph)... that would be just under a TWO HOUR time difference! Even if I worked on my cycling and knocked an hour off my time, that'd give me a 6:48 (16.5 mph) and I'd rank 1639 overall on the bike and would rank 1588 overall... I would have finished ahead of almost 1,000 more people. The person who ranked 2293 on the swim swam it in 1:31, just 27 minutes behind me. So, if you're a competitive individual, it may be worth it to keep working on the cycling, then running, then swimming to improve in triathlon. The best way to do that would to become more efficient through technique and training and have equipment that helps you get faster, too. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() suzielea - 2011-04-21 6:54 AM Looks like you've all been doing pretty well. I got in a 33 minute walk today because I couldn't be bothered waiting for the bus and decided to walk to the bank - this includes hill work as you have to go over the overpass to get anywhere in the cbd of my town from where I live. I ended up with 1.18 miles. This included a few "runs" - more like shuffling - across roads towards the end. I also did 1 full run across half a road after my cool down and lunch. My other knee started playing up when I was walking around the shopping centre along with my ankle but I did some seated leg raises and it seems to have helped. I'm still going to take another rest day before attempting my LD walk on Saturday though. I also put a yoga kit and biking essentials kit (head and tail lights along with a computer) on layby (I think you call it lay away) so I'll be throwing the yoga in to my routine in about 10 weeks.
Suzanne-this is great to read! Keep on keeping on with your healthy habits! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Loved the picture! It's great to see it's not snowing EVERYWHERE! ![]() |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() WittyCityGirl - 2011-04-21 5:00 PM pyroman1_1 - 2011-04-21 12:18 AM Good question Curt, I do not have an engineering background but you could put OCD after my name. I am struggling to take all the information I'm collecting and putting it into practice/drills/races. Sometimes I feel overloaded with useless information. I know part of it is having someone help you decipher that information into improving limiters(Thank You Sara) but at this stage in my racing I would rather spend money on gear and races rather than a personal trainer or coach. I'm leaning a lot on my daughter's experience but she does not have the time to train me, I just get daughterly advice. She tells me I need to be patient and I know that, but I want it NOW! I'm with you Dave-I've been putting $ into the gear. It was easier for me to pick gear for the swimming and running because I was more comfortable with those sports, but not with cycling. I have considered going to a cycling camp. But, for kicks and giggles let's look at something... For Ironman Lake Placid I placed 409 overall on the swim (1:04), 2293 on the bike (7:40, a 14.6 mph pace-I was called out for "sandbagging!"Ha, I wish!) and 1961 (5:29) on the run with a time of 14:26:33 (1998/2251). HUGE difference in placing in each individual sport. Let's say I worked on my cycling and hit the pace that the 409th person overall on the bike hit... that's 5:48 (19 mph)... that would be just under a TWO HOUR time difference! Even if I worked on my cycling and knocked an hour off my time, that'd give me a 6:48 (16.5 mph) and I'd rank 1639 overall on the bike and would rank 1588 overall... I would have finished ahead of almost 1,000 more people. The person who ranked 2293 on the swim swam it in 1:31, just 27 minutes behind me. So, if you're a competitive individual, it may be worth it to keep working on the cycling, then running, then swimming to improve in triathlon. The best way to do that would to become more efficient through technique and training and have equipment that helps you get faster, too. Sara - You are so right about the bike. It seems the longer the distance, the more it is about the bike. Not only can you make up the most time on that leg but it is also about how much you can hold back for the run. I had a decent swim and bike on my ironman but ran a 4:50 marathon. My stand alone marathon is a 3:10 - 3:15 so I definitely should be able to run a 4 hour if the bike fitness is there. But then again, you can't be wiped out out of the water either! Efficiency is key. |
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Member![]() ![]() | ![]() My sad story- I didn't get any swims in this week. I ususally like to go tues. and thrus. I decided this week to go wed. morning to get some swim instruction, but we had storms and I woke up atleast 5 times during the night, then my son Seth woke me up because he woke up from the storms. I decided at 3am I wasn't going to get up a 4 to go swimming. Then for thrus. I told my husband I was going to go thrus. morning, but he was going running because Seth had a school thing thrus. night. So I decided I would go Friday and Sat., but come to find out the pool is closed for Easter weekend. So yesterday Seth had a check up at the doctors so I decided I wanted to a bike shop afterwards, and from there chaos insued. My normally good kids wouldn't listen, and were running all over the store so I had to leave before they broke something. Have a great weekend, Happy Earth Day! Happy Easter! Tracie
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cbarnes1 - 2011-04-21 8:31 PM Sara - You are so right about the bike. It seems the longer the distance, the more it is about the bike. Not only can you make up the most time on that leg but it is also about how much you can hold back for the run. I had a decent swim and bike on my ironman but ran a 4:50 marathon. My stand alone marathon is a 3:10 - 3:15 so I definitely should be able to run a 4 hour if the bike fitness is there. But then again, you can't be wiped out out of the water either! Efficiency is key. Oh! I'm so forwarding this to my husband as proof that I'm not the only one who thinks I'm right about some things. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hang in there Tracie. You can look at this week as an R&R week and get back at it next. |
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