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I like Strawberry Perpetuem, I mix it with Melon Heed (from Hammer too) and it tastes delicious.

About the mileage, you're doing fine by doing what you've been doing this last two weeks. Try to squeeze in more track somewhere during the week (after vacation starts). Are you gonna have access to the track with the Schools closed?

Ernesto - My post was not meant to challenge your guidance or your role as mentor.  Merely to give information to the group and to share my opinions and thoughts based off of my training and research.  Are we a community or pupils who should follow you blindly?

I think I said that I had no disagreements with Maffetone's concepts.  I think I have also said in other posts in this group that you can't do all Long and Slow and that you need to add in tempo and speedwork.  Finally, I am not challenging Mafftone's science or credentials.  I think I even said they are two different paths that get you to the same place.  Perhaps I was overly critical of his formula but he himself states that he came up with it because it was a close approximation to the seasoned athletes he was doing testing on. 

Finally, I would respectfully disagree that LT field testing (as I recommended) is expensive or threatens my health.  Merely suggested as way to get close to a LT number so that he can construct his training zones is desires (per Friel and others).  The 5 HR zones is not voodoo science - they are widely accepted and built into the training plans (I believe) here at BT. 

Again, didn't mean to get in your way.  Have a good race - we'll all be cheering for you.

Thank you for the additional information, you make quite a case for the book.  And I have to say, it's an easy read so far and I can't wait to get further into it, especially the nutrition and rest (I never get enough sleep).  I've learned more in the past two weeks than in the past year of doing it myself!  I'm really excited about training and I appreciate all the time you've spent on my questions. 

I got a cadence sensor at lunch and will really start paying attention to that in my long rides.  My next step is getting clipless pedals (still riding in my running shoes), but I'm going to wait until after my 6/5 race so I have some time to get used to them before any competition.

Thanks again and GOOD LUCK on Saturday.  We've got cub scout picnic, little league game and a party on Saturday or I'd be there.  There's this nagging little notion in the back of my brain that I'd like to be there for real some day.  But for now, I will follow your progress and keep you in my thoughts and prayers!

St. Sebastian pray for us!  (patron saint of athletes    )

Mike

All I know is that if Maffetone says "get more sleep", I already hate him!   It's easier said than done! (Insomnia sucks.)

In fact, it's probably more true in my case to say I should exercise in order to sleep more rather than to say I should sleep more in order to exercise better.   

This might be before everyone's time, but one of my favorite Saturday Night Live skits (you know, when it used to be funny?) starred Rob Lowe as a soldier who can't for some reason get his Army helmet off, years after leaving the Army.  Everyone he meets asks him if he's tried soapy water until it just drives him over the deep end and he ends up screaming "Soapy water? Soapy water was the first thing I tried. Then it was the 7th thing I tried. then it was the 24th thing I tried. Soapy water? Soapy water..." until he breaks down crying. 

I believe that mike said he has been training aerobically for a couple years.  I wouldn't think a LT field test would be too much.  I've done formal lactate field tests for running and cycling in my 1st full season based on the Triathlon Training Bible by Friel. 

I fully admit I train to hard - that is why I stated that I agreed conceptually with Maffetone.  I've read some of his articles and still maintain that his formula is essentially taking a lot of data and figuring out a formula that gets you pretty close to the actual number.  At the same time, I agree that a LT field test is inexact as well...which led me to state they were different paths that got you to the same place.

Also, I like knowing a rough approx. of my LT - I find it useful in race situations to know my limits.

Finally, I apologize if I misread the tone of your reply to my post.  Again, good luck - I view us as a community within a community.  That is why I am here.

way to go jackie

So, if you don't know what to do with your time, take us behind the scenes of an Ironman competition.  Tell us what you do when you show up on Thursday for a Saturday race.  What thoughts are going through your head?  How do you relax, or do you?  What is your ritual, etc.  What is this expo deal?  Are all 2500 triathletes there already?  Do you watch the weather, etc. 

The peeps want to know, all right maybe just me.

Ernesto,

I'm glad to hear that you caught your bike's bigger potential problem just in time and a good reminder for all of us to always check our equipment thoroughly before an important race.

We are all rooting for you and are confident that you will do very well in your race.  I will try to follow your progress during your race (assuming I have good Internet access in the town where my 1/2 M is taking place) and look forward to hearing the details after you are done.

Best of luck amigo and may all your hard work pay off!

Gabriel

On my scale, I notice it depends when I get weighed.  It fluctuates 2 to 3 lbs everytime I get on.  I can weigh myself 3 times a day and they will all be different by a couple of pounds.  The trick may be to weigh yourself at the same time everyday.

Barry,

I think Chi-town sent the wind to Texas.  How's your training going?

+1 here Gabriel.  Kick assphalt!

Thanks Chris and Jackie

Jackie, way to go on your bike!  Chris, I'm still very impressed by your recent 1/2 M run!

BTW, I finally got my Maffetone book today (things take a few extra days to make it down to Guatemala ) and am now ready to drink the kool-aid.  

Cheers,

Gabriel 

Godspeed, Ernesto.

Thanks Jakie,

A friend that is a nurse also told me that it could be the water or liquids that i take, so maybe a conbination of both.. 

BTW, will not be able to make it to Woodlands, I got the day off but my wife didnt, so we will follow Ernesto on the internet..  I really wanted to go, guess i have to find a race to volunter closer to home.

Ernesto, the best of luck !!! 

Ernesto: finally, yesterday I went through the LT test protocol and I get this numbers, Waht do You think about them?, the good news is that I'll be able to train smart now.

I'll do the running as soon as I get more fit. Good Luck with Your race, I'll be standing by any news

Ok, This number:

[edit: Sorry my original post didn't make it through...meant to say / post the following]

I'll avoid touching this one (Ernesto - just being silly on my end).

Hi Dangremond, Yeah, I know it was a little confused, but since I forgot to include the table I was talking about in the previous post, I decide to put it in a diferent one.

Sorry

But any way the thing is that this numbers come from my LT test that I did yesterday, in order to start training with heart rate base instead of RPE, wich I think it´ll be better, if I´m not wrong.

Thank You for the input