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2010-07-11 1:56 PM
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jazz82482 - 2010-07-10 6:19 PM I have recently started using SaltStick salt capsules for my electrolyte replacement and I really like them. Endurolytes didn't seem to be working for me, and now I know why- they don't have enough sodium in them- only 40mg per capsule. Saltstick has 250mg per capsule, which is more on par for what you need when you sweat- or at least, what I need. I don't like to drink a lot of gatorade, I prefer water, so I've been working on supplementing with saltstick capsules and it seems to be working for me.

Same with me.  I don't drink GE ( or didn't in the past ).  On the bike water and Infinit, and on the run, coke and water.  So I got my salt from endurolytes.  Definitely feel a difference between the salt stick tabs and the endurolytes.  Hammer makes good stuff, but for me, my body likes the extra sodium.



2010-07-11 1:58 PM
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cusetri - 2010-07-11 11:24 AM
if you are driving, why not bring both?  flying I could see, but im sure you can find space for one more suit!...



Driving, yes, but from Seattle to Lake Placid with 4 people in an Audi A3. So it's like flying in a Cessna. :-)

We did get a rooftop cargo box, so I think I'll bring both, for the lower pre-race angst factor if nothing else.
2010-07-11 2:46 PM
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2010-07-11 2:55 PM
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Was that the mini-Mussel by any chance?  It was like seeing a celebrity when I picked you out at the water station! =p Some LP folks did the aquabike today instead of the mini-Musselman.  Mike, what do you think about that for future LPers? I thought it was a smart move.

cusetri - 2010-07-11 2:31 PM

james, you are FINE.

dude, I had to WALK in a 5k of a SPRINT tri.....worst race ever.  came off the bike with 3rd place right in front of me...just as I was to pass, I had to freakin walk!!!  out of no where....

my coach was laughing at (with) me....saying, "This will be funny to you in 15 days as well."

you are SET!!

you've done the work....
2010-07-11 2:59 PM
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PennState - 2010-07-11 3:46 PM  I used to believe they would always find the coolest spot in the lake and get that 'magical' temp to allow wet suits, but ever since eagleman this year, I see it slightly differently. Thoughts?


I talked to a guy that KQed at LP twice and he seems to think that with 3,000 starters that they will certainly find the coldest spot in the lake, dump some ice in it, and read the water temp to make it wetsuit legal.

Now... for a race like this (not that it matters to me), but if it's on the "cusp" is there a point where a wetsuit is optional, but if you wear it you aren't eligible for age group awards??  Would that effect who gets a Kona spot?  Again, merely curiosity pushing me to ask.
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WittyCityGirl - 2010-07-11 3:55 PM Was that the mini-Mussel by any chance?  It was like seeing a celebrity when I picked you out at the water station! =p Some LP folks did the aquabike today instead of the mini-Musselman.  Mike, what do you think about that for future LPers? I thought it was a smart move.

cusetri - 2010-07-11 2:31 PM

james, you are FINE.

dude, I had to WALK in a 5k of a SPRINT tri.....worst race ever.  came off the bike with 3rd place right in front of me...just as I was to pass, I had to freakin walk!!!  out of no where....

my coach was laughing at (with) me....saying, "This will be funny to you in 15 days as well."

you are SET!!

you've done the work....


yes!...very warm swim.  first time is was measured at 81 degrees.  they went back and found a better spot to measure.
2010-07-11 5:51 PM
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jackjack - 2010-07-10 7:10 AM OK let's add the peeing thing from the girls perspective too

Last time yes I did pee on the bike.  It took a while to find a place that was right and not many people around but you still feel self conscious.   I had practiced once in training so knew I could do it (it's actually quite hard to relax enough first time).
I found that I had to really chuck a lot of water onto my bike shorts afterwards to rinse off cos else it seemed to make me sore

This time I don't know. I don't want to have to stop BUT I am riding a different bike and my bento box doesn't fit at the front end of my top tube (wires in way) so I have to have it at the back end which is right under the saddle and I don't want to pee on my nutrition Undecided


I'm with you Jackie...i think it depends WHEN I have to pee....I've tried in training without much success....but if its after mile 90...screw it, im going on the bike!!
2010-07-11 10:25 PM
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PennState - 2010-07-11 12:46 PM

Not trying to raise anxiety, but LP may not even be wet suit legal this year. On ST they were discussing this possibility.

I doubt anyone drop out of the race if it wasn't wet suit legal, but it would surely be an unpopular decision wouldn't it?

I used to believe they would always find the coolest spot in the lake and get that 'magical' temp to allow wet suits, but ever since eagleman this year, I see it slightly differently.

Thoughts?


With 3000 participants, there are bound to be some people already very anxious about the swim and they'd first wig out and second drop out with a "no wetsuits" ruling.

Not me, though. Yesterday I did 4500 straight swim in the pool. And I did IM Cozumel without a wetsuit, but of course that was saltwater. It's not all that more supportive than freshwater - certainly not like a wetsuit.

I can do 2.4 miles in a lake without a wetsuit. I think a lot of people could, even if they never have.

EDIT: I read the ST thread. Doesn't seem very possible that IMLP will be non-wetsuit, but as you say, Eagleman was non-wetsuit to the surprise of everyone. I imagine WTC would want it to be a wetsuit swim (they have your $$$ for this year, but it may put a crimp in next year), but a USAT official would be neutral. Do they have USAT people on hand? Who decides?

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2010-07-12 3:15 AM
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Okinawa waters are usually 70-86 degrees all year long so whenever I'm in my wetsuit it's usually close to or over the cutoff line but I need the practice.  It's hot right now in the 80's and I'm looking forward to getting in a bit of cooler water in a few days.

But, like Bruce said, 2.4 miles with or without a suit we should all be ready by now.

2010-07-12 7:56 AM
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tasr - 2010-07-10 11:46 PM My last long run is done for me if you call it that.  It was more like a failed run.  Nothing I can do about it now. 
 
My confidence in doing well at LP is not good.  I just hope I can pull to the line healthy, uninjured and race with all you fine people.  Maybe come close to last years time and with Gods grace finish healthy.  
 
Sorry to be such a drag I am usually positive.  Just being honest with myself I guess. 



One bad/moderate workout does not take away from the many hours of great work and the confidence of great racing all season thus far.

Do not dwell on one workout, dwell on the consistancy that got you here.


2010-07-12 7:58 AM
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I am pretty sure that mirror lake is spring fed.  That being said, it should be pretty cool, as if I remember last year, you could find the cold spots.  If that's the case, then unless it stays in the high 90's it will probably be ok - or at least that's what I'm telling myself.  Temps are looking like 80s during the day and 50/60/s at night, so we will probably be ok.  I'm sure the forecast will change about a million times between now and then, but we'll see what happens. 

http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=pass&pass=zone_ext&place=lake+placid&state=ny&zipcode=12946&country=us&county=36031&zone=NYZ034&icao=KSLK
 
2010-07-12 8:06 AM
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with less then 2 weeks left I wanted to thank all of you. Your insights added to my levels of confidence and anxiety. Your input has always been insightful, witty, and often times humorous. I wish you all luck and fun on the 25th. It's been such an exciting ride thus far.
2010-07-12 8:10 AM
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AdCo - 2010-07-12 10:58 PM I am pretty sure that mirror lake is spring fed.  That being said, it should be pretty cool, as if I remember last year, you could find the cold spots.  If that's the case, then unless it stays in the high 90's it will probably be ok - or at least that's what I'm telling myself.  Temps are looking like 80s during the day and 50/60s at night, so we will probably be ok.  I'm sure the forecast will change about a million times between now and then, but we'll see what happens. 

http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=pass&pass=zone_ext&place=lake+placid&state=ny&zipcode=12946&country=us&county=36031&zone=NYZ034&icao=KSLK
 

I'm going to need a parka!  That's Christmas weather around here, yikes.

2010-07-12 8:29 AM
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papson14 - 2010-07-12 8:10 AM

AdCo - 2010-07-12 10:58 PM I am pretty sure that mirror lake is spring fed.  That being said, it should be pretty cool, as if I remember last year, you could find the cold spots.  If that's the case, then unless it stays in the high 90's it will probably be ok - or at least that's what I'm telling myself.  Temps are looking like 80s during the day and 50/60s at night, so we will probably be ok.  I'm sure the forecast will change about a million times between now and then, but we'll see what happens. 

http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=pass&pass=zone_ext&place=lake+placid&state=ny&zipcode=12946&country=us&county=36031&zone=NYZ034&icao=KSLK
 

I'm going to need a parka!  That's Christmas weather around here, yikes.


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And to me, that's PERFECT running weather.  50's are a little chilly for the bike, and the water would feel warm - If it didn't rain, I'd be happy with a 60 degree day.  I'm just wondering where our numbers are. The taper crazies are in full effect here now. 
2010-07-12 8:40 AM
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Do they email us when our numbers come out or do we just keep checking the race website?



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papson14 - 2010-07-12 8:10 AM

AdCo - 2010-07-12 10:58 PM I am pretty sure that mirror lake is spring fed.  That being said, it should be pretty cool, as if I remember last year, you could find the cold spots.  If that's the case, then unless it stays in the high 90's it will probably be ok - or at least that's what I'm telling myself.  Temps are looking like 80s during the day and 50/60s at night, so we will probably be ok.  I'm sure the forecast will change about a million times between now and then, but we'll see what happens. 

http://www.hamweather.net/cgi-bin/hw3/hw3.cgi?config=&forecast=pass&pass=zone_ext&place=lake+placid&state=ny&zipcode=12946&country=us&county=36031&zone=NYZ034&icao=KSLK
 

I'm going to need a parka!  That's Christmas weather around here, yikes.



It wil be.... Christmas in July!

IMLP happens to fall on my birthday, so every year I tell people its Christmas in July!

Enjoy your tapers!!
2010-07-12 10:26 AM
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I have no doubt that it will be wetsuit legal. However, if I am wrong, remember swimskins/speedsuits are still legal.
2010-07-12 10:50 AM
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jonmetz - 2010-07-12 10:26 AM I have no doubt that it will be wetsuit legal. However, if I am wrong, remember swimskins/speedsuits are still legal.


Think anyone will notice my water wings if it isn't wet-suit legal.. Maybe i'll just eat beans and make myself gassy to float better..  
2010-07-12 11:45 AM
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No point worrying about what we can't control, I have learned my lesson from other races, you never know what the wx will be. I just bring everything, full and half wetsuit and speed suit to every race. Speed suit paid off at Eagleman this year. It did not make my swim time better, but it was a confidence booster. Good luck and stay safe, we are close. Jim
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AdCo - 2010-07-12 11:50 AM
jonmetz - 2010-07-12 10:26 AM I have no doubt that it will be wetsuit legal. However, if I am wrong, remember swimskins/speedsuits are still legal.


Think anyone will notice my water wings if it isn't wet-suit legal.. Maybe i'll just eat beans and make myself gassy to float better..  
I did a 70.3 this weekend and we saw a guy going into the water with two water bottles in his swimsuit. We were trying to decide if he thought he needed hydration on the swim or if the bottles were empty and he was using them for flotation.


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jonmetz - 2010-07-12 1:07 PM
AdCo - 2010-07-12 11:50 AM
jonmetz - 2010-07-12 10:26 AM I have no doubt that it will be wetsuit legal. However, if I am wrong, remember swimskins/speedsuits are still legal.


Think anyone will notice my water wings if it isn't wet-suit legal.. Maybe i'll just eat beans and make myself gassy to float better..  
I did a 70.3 this weekend and we saw a guy going into the water with two water bottles in his swimsuit. We were trying to decide if he thought he needed hydration on the swim or if the bottles were empty and he was using them for flotation.


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I am exhausted.....  heavy training weekend in the heat ( 1 real good and 2 good),,,, just cant get out of this fog today....  all i have today is OWS for 1 hour....  then another good night of sleep I hope....  It is great reading this stuff, and WOW less than 2 weeks!!!!
2010-07-12 1:24 PM
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Ok...as a 1st time IM're I am trying to work out all of the unknowns...I read the info guide and have a few questions.

7/23 - 7:30 pm – 8:30 pm – Mandatory Athlete Meeting in the banquet tent at the Lake Placid Horse Show Grounds (obviously a must, right?)

7/24
7:00 am-10:00 am – Gatorade Bag Check-in, Mirror Lake. Representatives from Gatorade will be on hand to watch your gear and to give away Gatorade products.
(Is this where I drop off all of my transition bags and Special Needs bags?  If so, can I get to them throughout the day?)

10:00 am-3:00 pm – Athlete Bike and Gear Check-In at the transition area.
(Is this where I check in all of my bags along with my bike?  If so, I guess this is where I need to pack my water bottles with ice since we can't get in after 3:00 or can I bring my infinite the next morning as I enter transition on race day?  Also, can you get your bike out for a ride?)  


7/25 - 
5:00 am – Transition area in the Speedskating Oval opens/body marking begins on Main St. in front of oval.  (again, can I bring my water bottles this day?  How does a pump work, I need to hand it off to my wife right, it can't be in the transition area?

Sorry to be crazy type A..just nervous as we hit the two week mark!

Thanks!
 




 
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Kevlujohn - 2010-07-12 2:24 PM Ok...as a 1st time IM're I am trying to work out all of the unknowns...I read the info guide and have a few questions.

7/23 - 7:30 pm – 8:30 pm – Mandatory Athlete Meeting in the banquet tent at the Lake Placid Horse Show Grounds (obviously a must, right?)

7/24
7:00 am-10:00 am – Gatorade Bag Check-in, Mirror Lake. Representatives from Gatorade will be on hand to watch your gear and to give away Gatorade products.
(Is this where I drop off all of my transition bags and Special Needs bags?  If so, can I get to them throughout the day?)

10:00 am-3:00 pm – Athlete Bike and Gear Check-In at the transition area.
(Is this where I check in all of my bags along with my bike?  If so, I guess this is where I need to pack my water bottles with ice since we can't get in after 3:00 or can I bring my infinite the next morning as I enter transition on race day?  Also, can you get your bike out for a ride?)  


7/25 - 
5:00 am – Transition area in the Speedskating Oval opens/body marking begins on Main St. in front of oval.  (again, can I bring my water bottles this day?  How does a pump work, I need to hand it off to my wife right, it can't be in the transition area?

Sorry to be crazy type A..just nervous as we hit the two week mark!

Thanks!

 

 


1) The mandatory meeting isn't 'mandatory' but if you're asking the next questions, YES...go and be early.  I'm serious.

2) No, this is just an open swim time.  Gatorade, is sponsoring the pre-swim time.  It's not on race day.  Anybody can swim at this time.  Your wife too!  They are just there to hold your stuff for you and you get it back when you're done swimming.

3) Once you put your bike in transition the day before the race, it will NOT be allowed out until race day when you're on it for the bike.  That means any adjustments you need to make ensure they are done before 3 pm on the 24th (day before the race)
- You don't have to put any nutrition on the bike.  You will have access to it the next morning.
- You will drop off your transition bags (T1 and T2) bags.  You will NOT have access to these bags the morning of the race.  (That is how it was after WTC took over all the IM races).  You use to be able to access T1/2 bags morning of, not any longer.  But since you are going to the Mandatory Athlete meeting, you can ask that question.  (If you don't, I will be)

4) Show up race morning, put all of your water bottles onto your bike and pump up your tires.  You will also bring special needs bags and hand them off to the volenteers.

Those are great questions!
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