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 2009-06-12 4:22 PM in reply to: #2210383 |
Extreme Veteran  680    Boulder, CO |  Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Springcjhild - 2009-06-11 9:53 AM G- I have a question about breathing during the swim. Like Suzy mentions above, I have seen a lot about breathing out continuously while your head is in the water. I breathe out just before I turn my head to be out of the water to take the breathe. Should I be breathing out the whole time? I tried it once and felt like I was not getting enough oxygen, felt light-headed and like I was going to pass out. Maybe I was breathing out too much? My best advice is to breathe out just before you turn your head -- it's a good habit and provides additional buoyancy/body position. g |
| 2009-06-12 4:24 PM in reply to: #2210952 |
Extreme Veteran 680 Boulder, CO | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring BabsVa - 2009-06-11 12:21 PM Gordo, without a wetsuit, is OWS maybe 15% slower than a pool? Between sighting, course corrections, and no push off the wall - yeah, it's gotta be slower. Sometimes I get a bit caught up in the metrics and the piling up of training numbers but then kind of remember how amazing it is that we can do these things, how strong we are, yet so humble in the big scheme of things and there we are swimming biking running, moving, living our lives as fully as we can. Anyway, a little bit of trippin' on endorphins thoughts. Take care all! Tough to say the exact difference because of chop, wetsuits, drafting, capacity to swim straight, lack of accurate courses, currents.... NEVER trust your swim time... unless it is a PB... then the course was accurate for sure!  g |
| 2009-06-12 8:53 PM in reply to: #2214394 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring GordoByrn NEVER trust your swim time... unless it is a PB... then the course was accurate for sure! Lovin' this one. Thanks for your input Suzy and Barb. Big training day tomorrow with my s/b/r, I will let you guys know how it goes. |
| 2009-06-13 9:33 AM in reply to: #2214394 |
| Expert 626 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring GordoByrn - 2009-06-12 5:24 PM NEVER trust your swim time... unless it is a PB... then the course was accurate for sure!
<just about sprayed coffee all over my keyboard> Ya know I am beginning to suspect the pool length has been inaccurately measured too |
| 2009-06-13 1:23 PM in reply to: #2072085 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring Disappointed, decided to bag my sbr today. I tweaked my neck a couple days ago, went to the chiro yesterday and it feels much better but I think swimming 1000 yards would be a poor idea. Going to take a short ride with a buddy today and see how the neck feels with that, it goes ok I will hit a long ride tomorrow morning in the national park with a short run to follow. Bumming hard on it right now. What are your guy's weekend plans? |
| 2009-06-13 1:31 PM in reply to: #2072085 |
Champion 7163  Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring I am back from my duathlon and happy to report I was the 2nd female overall and 1st in my AG! Take away the swim and I am semi competitive! The bike was a bright spot, I finally hit 19mph for the leg. I passed so many males along the way (yeah!). Of course, one of them passed me back on the last leg of the run, but it was at least eye candy. At that point I was about to pass out  . My asthma is becoming a limiter. When my inhaler no longer touches the situation, it is a problem. Justin--sorry to hear about your neck, but having gone through injuries, I know it is best to step back rather than push through it and be miserable for weeks and or months. Hope everyone else is enjoying the weekend! Suzy |
| 2009-06-14 2:36 PM in reply to: #2215334 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring SSMinnow 1st in my AG! WAY TO GO!!! Congrats that is awesome. Good job. I know it is best to step back rather than push through it Thanks Suzy, it helps to be reassured it is the right call when you want to get out there so bad. Edited by cjhild 2009-06-14 2:36 PM |
| 2009-06-14 3:18 PM in reply to: #2200352 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring BabsVa About 30 min swim*, 1 hr 23 bike AHR 145, 1 hour 6 min run* AHR 145 Looking good Barb. I checked the results from last year for my race on the 28th. With my estimated times I would come in around the bottom ten people, male and female. Doh! Man there are some fast people out there. Can't wait to see how it goes. |
| 2009-06-14 4:03 PM in reply to: #2216549 |
| Expert 626 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring cjhild - 2009-06-14 4:18 PM Man there are some fast people out there. From what I hear that part of the country is thick with triathletes. Come to C'ville for a race scene that's decidedly more chill. |
| 2009-06-14 4:04 PM in reply to: #2215334 |
| Expert 626 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring SSMinnow - 2009-06-13 2:31 PM I am back from my duathlon and happy to report I was the 2nd female overall and 1st in my AG!
Suzy you Miss Fast Thang you. You certainly train hard - you deserve it. Good going! |
| 2009-06-14 6:14 PM in reply to: #2216609 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring BabsVa From what I hear that part of the country is thick with triathletes. Indeed. Oh yeah, it is a deep water start. I missed that when I signed up! Nervous about it. You guys do a deep water start yet? |
| 2009-06-14 6:49 PM in reply to: #2216769 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring cjhild - 2009-06-14 6:14 PM BabsVa From what I hear that part of the country is thick with triathletes. Indeed. Oh yeah, it is a deep water start. I missed that when I signed up! Nervous about it. You guys do a deep water start yet? I have not done one yet and would rather do a beach start if I had the choice. I watch IM WI every year and it seems like those athletes are out there for a long while, but do fine. I bet once you have one under your belt it won't matter a bit. |
| 2009-06-15 8:52 AM in reply to: #2216769 |
Extreme Veteran 680 Boulder, CO | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring cjhild - 2009-06-14 5:14 PM BabsVa From what I hear that part of the country is thick with triathletes. Indeed. Oh yeah, it is a deep water start. I missed that when I signed up! Nervous about it. You guys do a deep water start yet? You'll be fine -- what tends to happen is that all the fast (or keen, or crazy!) swimmers bunch at the front -- you want to line up behind them, not in the "crush". Gun goes off -- everyone goes from vertical to horizontal -- fast swimmers are gone -- most everyone else is on top of each other. By staying behind the mess, you get a good lead out; save energy; and avoid stress. g |
| 2009-06-15 9:28 AM in reply to: #2072085 |
| Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring Went for another run this morning. My knee is bothering for about the first 10 minutes or so that I run and then feels fine after that. The run went okay and I was feeling fine afterward. However, after showering and everything once I put my boots on and started walking around both my knees and my left foot were hurting . The pain in my knees went away about half way through the day but my foot is still bothering me. Think I may avoid running outside until I can get new shoes and see if that is the problem. On a side note, if all goes well I might actually get out of here within the next week. Hope everyone's training is going well and that everyone had a good weekend. |
| 2009-06-15 9:30 AM in reply to: #2217958 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring InsertNameHere - 2009-06-15 9:28 AM Went for another run this morning. My knee is bothering for about the first 10 minutes or so that I run and then feels fine after that. The run went okay and I was feeling fine afterward. However, after showering and everything once I put my boots on and started walking around both my knees and my left foot were hurting . The pain in my knees went away about half way through the day but my foot is still bothering me. Think I may avoid running outside until I can get new shoes and see if that is the problem. On a side note, if all goes well I might actually get out of here within the next week. Hope everyone's training is going well and that everyone had a good weekend. Can't give you too much advice on the leg issues, but will keep my fingers crossed you are home by next weekend! |
| 2009-06-15 5:56 PM in reply to: #2217958 |
Extreme Veteran 680 Boulder, CO | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring InsertNameHere - 2009-06-15 8:28 AM Went for another run this morning. My knee is bothering for about the first 10 minutes or so that I run and then feels fine after that. The run went okay and I was feeling fine afterward. However, after showering and everything once I put my boots on and started walking around both my knees and my left foot were hurting . The pain in my knees went away about half way through the day but my foot is still bothering me. Think I may avoid running outside until I can get new shoes and see if that is the problem. On a side note, if all goes well I might actually get out of here within the next week. Hope everyone's training is going well and that everyone had a good weekend. This could help: http://www.endurancecorner.com/biomechanical_fitness Took me a couple years of hiking & strength training before I could run pain free. g |
| 2009-06-15 5:57 PM in reply to: #2219640 |
Extreme Veteran 680 Boulder, CO | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring GordoByrn - 2009-06-15 4:56 PM InsertNameHere - 2009-06-15 8:28 AM Went for another run this morning. My knee is bothering for about the first 10 minutes or so that I run and then feels fine after that. The run went okay and I was feeling fine afterward. However, after showering and everything once I put my boots on and started walking around both my knees and my left foot were hurting . The pain in my knees went away about half way through the day but my foot is still bothering me. Think I may avoid running outside until I can get new shoes and see if that is the problem. On a side note, if all goes well I might actually get out of here within the next week. Hope everyone's training is going well and that everyone had a good weekend. This could help: http://www.endurancecorner.com/biomechanical_fitness Took me a couple years of hiking & strength training before I could run pain free. g Let's try that link again... http://www.endurancecorner.com/biomechanical_fitness g |
| 2009-06-15 9:56 PM in reply to: #2072085 |
| Member 19 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring Hi - It's been a while as I've been on the road but training and racing are going pretty well. However, I'm still having issues with the swim. My time at my last race wasn't too bad but I don't seem to be improving much. Maybe you can help me figure out what I need to focus on ( technique, strength, endurance, etc. or all of the above!). Here's something I noticed tonight after working on various drills. Background info: I take too many strokes (25-30/ 25M). A friend suggested that maybe I wasn't gliding enough. So, tonight I tried to glide more. Helped a little but not much. Then I did some catch up drills and noticed that my stroke count was between 20-22/25M. Then I did 1 arm drills and my count was again 20-22. How can my stroke count be worse when I use both arms and swim "normally"? |
| 2009-06-16 7:56 AM in reply to: #2220131 |
Extreme Veteran 680 Boulder, CO | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring laurabuchholz - 2009-06-15 8:56 PM Hi - It's been a while as I've been on the road but training and racing are going pretty well. However, I'm still having issues with the swim. My time at my last race wasn't too bad but I don't seem to be improving much. Maybe you can help me figure out what I need to focus on ( technique, strength, endurance, etc. or all of the above!). Here's something I noticed tonight after working on various drills. Background info: I take too many strokes (25-30/ 25M). A friend suggested that maybe I wasn't gliding enough. So, tonight I tried to glide more. Helped a little but not much. Then I did some catch up drills and noticed that my stroke count was between 20-22/25M. Then I did 1 arm drills and my count was again 20-22. How can my stroke count be worse when I use both arms and swim "normally"? Hi Laura, How many times did you swim in March/April/May and June (month to date)? I ask because swimming is the most technique intensive of the three sports... so... responds well to swimming often. g |
| 2009-06-16 11:01 AM in reply to: #2217803 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring You'll be fine Thanks G. For a workout, if I have an average HR in zone 2 or 3 where I want it to be, is this a "good" workout? So if I have spikes throughout the workout up into 160-170, but my average is in zone 2 am I making progress towards my endurance goals? Does this make sense? I think I understand what I am trying to say better than I am able to type it. |
| 2009-06-17 1:13 AM in reply to: #2219640 |
| Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring GordoByrn - 2009-06-15 5:56 PM This could help: http://www.endurancecorner.com/biomechanical_fitness Took me a couple years of hiking & strength training before I could run pain free. g Thanks for the link, that does help somewhat. It looks like I'll probably have to take things slower than I wanted to. I have to keep telling myself to take things slow and don't hurt yourself trying to get back into things too quick. Think long term not short. It's not easy and I have to fight with myself constantly to do it but I know it will work out better in the long run. Will be nice to get back and be doing less work wise. Right now spending most days walking around half the day is not helping my knee, especially after stressing it with working out in the morning. |
| 2009-06-17 9:43 AM in reply to: #2072085 |
Extreme Veteran 566 Southern California | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring The pool I swim at is outdoors. I get started at 5:00 am, around 5:30 am someone nearby starts cooking bacon. I do not know who it is, but I hate them. |
| 2009-06-17 10:50 AM in reply to: #2072085 |
New user 70 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring Hey everyone! Did not do any formal "workouts" while down there, but did a LOT ... let me say, a LOT of walking! My wife and I love fitness and being active, so walked most mornings to this great deli on Kanapa'ali for breakfast, and did a lot of walking around Lahaina. Sunday we went out on a great snorkeling trip to Molokini. I snorkeled as much as possible, and covered a lot of territory, even got some free diving in. Saw a reef shark, a HUGE barracuda, a morray eel, and many of the smaller colorful fishies. It was AWESOME! Also did some open water swimming, but not a whole lot. |
| 2009-06-17 11:18 AM in reply to: #2072085 |
| Expert 626 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring Ken |
| 2009-06-17 11:22 AM in reply to: #2223885 |
| Expert 626 | Subject: RE: GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring cjhild - 2009-06-17 10:43 AM The pool I swim at is outdoors. I get started at 5:00 am, around 5:30 am someone nearby starts cooking bacon. I do not know who it is, but I hate them. Gak! Bacon. Noseclip? ;-) 5:00 am that's pretty early. You're hardcore, dude. Edited by BabsVa 2009-06-17 11:23 AM |
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