login
Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED (Page 18)
-
No new posts
|
 2011-01-03 12:51 PM in reply to: #3271999 |
Elite  3067    Cheesehead, WI |  Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDstevebradley - 2011-01-01 11:56 PM Bears....Packers.....ultimately it doesn't matter -- the Patriots WILL win the Super Bowl! Ahhhh...now THAT is a tough one for me because I grew up in New England and the Pats are ingrained in my psyche. But now that I live in WI...I've also become a Pack fan so if the 2 head it up again, I don't know. Last time, I rooted for the Pats to make things interesting at home. LOL |
| 2011-01-03 12:59 PM in reply to: #3270949 |
Member 57 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - Open stevebradley - 2011-01-01 9:42 AM Just an interlude here, between hopefully otherwise Meaningful Posts........ My calves have been okay today, not living up to the threat they posed last night. WHEW! It may have helped that I have been in compression calf sleeves since getting into the car post-race, but I'm just happy Im not hurting! How many of you yuse compression calf sleeves? if you don't, maybe think about getting some. There are many players in the market now, and the ones I use are De DSoto and Zensah. I also have 2XU , but are less fond of them. I have never used mine during a run or a race, but many peole do and swear by them. I use mine regularly for recovery purposes (even sleeping in them) after tougher efforts, and for thsat purpose I swear by them! And if you wear them in public, either during races or runs -- and especially after races and runs when you are in shorts -- your Geek Quotient rises by a factor of six. For true! I love my calves sleeves.. I use the CEP one and are great i use then on my brick days same as you do for recovery and since i got them my calves have been loving it after a long brick workout.. I got mine for about 40 bucks off onetri.com and are for sure worth it.. I havent yet ran or biked in them but i think i will try it one of these days but i use them mostly for recovery. |
| 2011-01-03 1:01 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey folks, ok it's silly questions time... 1) A long time ago when I was running I was told the proper way to breath is inhale from the nose and exhale from the mouth. I'm not sure if this person was just messing around with me or not. Any input on if this is true or is does not really matter. 2) We talked about compression socks, but when I did some research I found compression socks and also leg compression sleeves. I was not really sure what the difference is as to helping with recovery. I did not know if you really needed to have the compression on the feet or just on the shins and calfs. Thanks George |
| 2011-01-03 1:13 PM in reply to: #3270903 |
Member 57 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - Open stevebradley - 2011-01-01 9:01 AM MANFRED - I just found your post to me from page 6, so here goes. Sorry I'm a few days slow with it! I was not aware of the Sara McLarty stuff here at BT, and I will get to that later on. She is an incredible swimmer, so whatever she says is well worth paying attention to. you are doing really well to be so far along in her program at this stage of the off-season, and you will have "graduated" from her program long before the general tri season begins out there in the intermountains! Also in the doing well department is your dedication to the rollers. Stick with them, and they will do wonders for your bike-handling skills. I had a bad bike crash in June '09 where a car backed out in front of me when I was doing about 24mph. I managed to swerve left to avoid broadsiding him, and then executed a sharp right going behind him.....but went down in trying to re-correct to the right again. But had I not some decent bike-handling skills, I couldn't've made the first two maneuvers successfully --- and both consequencs there would've been far, far worse than what ended up happening to me (separated shoulder, extensive road rash). So! Stick with it! It'll increase your chances of living a longer life!  It toiok me quiet a while to build up my sessions on the rollers -- and also my confidence and competence. I have mine positioned between a wall to my right and the side of a couch to my left, so if I slip, at least I don;t go all the way down. If you can get a similar "protected" setting for yours, that will help. I have never gotten extremely competent on mine. That is, i can't ride no-hands, and I can't eat a sandwich with one hand -- things that serious roadies can do. I usually use the water bottle that fits between my aero bars and has a long straw, but if you don't have aero bars than that limits your drinking. As the off-season progresses, i can manage to reach behind me with one hand for one of the bottles in the cages behind my seat, AND drink from it, AND return it ---Steve- Thanks for your responce and dont worry i have been out and about for the weekend made my way up to idaho for the new year and had a blast up there. Very cold though. Yeah i have just started to get the hang of the rollers a little more, i first started in the doorway to my room but now i ride in my room with one wall to my right side and my bed to the other. i rent a room in a house so i dont really have a more open area to do my workouts but we do have a treadmill in the basement that i use often with this cold weather here in utah. I have a tri bike a jamis comet so i do the same put my bottle that fits right in the middle of them, makes it much easier i have takin a fall or to tryin to reach for the bottle cage..  I will try shifting more for sure right i spin in the small ring from about the middle back.. I cant dare to try and get out of the saddle right now but im sure with time i will build the courage to do it.. Thanks for the info steve.. I notice that there are alot of new pages since i last was on so i will spend down time at work today reading through 17th to 22nd page.. Lots of good info.. everyone is doing a great job.. HAPPY NEW YEAR.. Manny. |
| 2011-01-03 1:23 PM in reply to: #3274581 |
Member 57 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED gdsemiller - 2011-01-03 12:01 PM Hey folks, ok it's silly questions time... 1) A long time ago when I was running I was told the proper way to breath is inhale from the nose and exhale from the mouth. I'm not sure if this person was just messing around with me or not. Any input on if this is true or is does not really matter. 2) We talked about compression socks, but when I did some research I found compression socks and also leg compression sleeves. I was not really sure what the difference is as to helping with recovery. I did not know if you really needed to have the compression on the feet or just on the shins and calfs. Thanks George I always tell friends that are new to running to do what makes you feel comfortable i have not herd that there is a proper inhale exhale before i will look into it more... i always try to focus on steady breathing nice and slow and calm and body position aswell. As for the sleeves i have seen that they have a full sock that is compression but have not tried it yet they also have full pants that are compressed in all the parts of the leg that need it most.. i recommend the calves sleeves for sure and im sure that the full socks and the pant are great in the own way.. money wise its cheaper to start with the calves and see what you think of them and go from there. |
| 2011-01-03 1:30 PM in reply to: #3274581 |
Member 57 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED gdsemiller - 2011-01-03 12:01 PM Hey folks, ok it's silly questions time... 1) A long time ago when I was running I was told the proper way to breath is inhale from the nose and exhale from the mouth. I'm not sure if this person was just messing around with me or not. Any input on if this is true or is does not really matter. 2) We talked about compression socks, but when I did some research I found compression socks and also leg compression sleeves. I was not really sure what the difference is as to helping with recovery. I did not know if you really needed to have the compression on the feet or just on the shins and calfs. Thanks George Hey George found a little info on the Compression sleeves Studies show that support stockings, or compression stockings or calf and shin sleeves, improve running performance during both short, intense sprints and longer distance runs. These stockings look like heavy leg warmers. They're worn over the leg from the ankle to the knee. For extra warmth, runners can add regular running socks on top of them. How do these lower body sleeves for runners work? First, they keep runners' calves warm during colder runs, but like compression stockings used for medical purposes, those used for runners also improve blood circulation and blood flow, allowing runners to run longer and faster. In addition, compression stockings offer support to the calf and shins, reducing the likelihood of shin splints. In one study published in the January 2009 issue of the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, middle-aged male runners ran on the treadmill while wearing compression stockings. The German researchers who conducted the study found that runners could run longer and had significantly better performance during both sprints (anaerobic exercise) and longer distance runs (aerobic exercise) when they wore the stockings. Other research has indicated that compression garments such as calf sleeves also offer runners the following benefits: They reduce fatigue, protect skin from ultraviolet rays, regulate body temperature, decrease leg swelling, and help remove lactic acid from the legs. |
| 2011-01-03 1:37 PM in reply to: #3274500 |
Extreme Veteran 346 Lafayette, IN | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED BbMoozer - 2011-01-03 1:36 PM jslacker - 2011-01-01 11:40 PM BbMoozer - 2011-01-01 9:45 PM DUNCAN - Aww! Congrats on your lovely daughter and may she recover quickly. STEVE-Wisconsin is in mourning after today's Rose Bowl... BUT we shall be victorious tomorrow with the Pack bringing down the Bears Taught a New Years Day spin class...High heart rate stuff. Tomorrow, hoping to get a nice run in. Temps have gone from 40 yesterday to the teens with zero windchills. Brrrr! The Big Ten took a beating today in all the bowl games. But at least the BEARS will bring down the Pack today.  Ah, we have a spinning instructor within our group. Do you teach spinning or RPM? I think the Bears headed out to the woods during the game And I teach at the Y - I don't teach any funky crap like doing popcorn jumps or push ups on the bars. I teach much like riding a real bike outside with cadence and rate of perceived exertion on hills. I know sometimes the class gets 'bored' if we aren't moving around a lot but there are other instructors. I have to hand it to the Pack, they out-foxed the Bears. Cutler looked lost most of the game. Congrats on getting into the playoffs. The only reason I didn't want the Pack getting in is because I think the Bears had a much better chance beating the Giants or Tampa Bay in the playoffs. I like spinning instructors that are actual riders because they duplicate riding outside. We use to have an instructor that would do over 100 pop-up's or Popcorn jumps in a class. I am still trying to figure out what the simulates. Yes, you could argue it builds your quads but so does putting on more resistence. |
| 2011-01-03 2:40 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Regular 123 Redlands, CA | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED I wore compression sleeves for the first time this October and improved my marathon time by 40 minutes, so there you go, compression sleeves are a keeper! I really like them, but I do find my calves feel "tired" for about the first two miles, then I don't notice it any more. I did not wear them after the three races I used them for, it would be interesting to know experiences wearing them before, during and/or after. I used white CEP's and they do get pretty dirty as far as continuing to wear them I would think you might want an extra pair for after. On another note--I have my training plan as an excel file, I can download it to my desktop as csv but haven't been able to import to BT anyone have some very "easy for me to understand" directions on how to do this. I tried at home on my mac and at work on pc, no luck. Thanks, Melinda |
| 2011-01-03 2:56 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371 Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Thanks Melinda and Manny for your input on the compression sleeves.. It sure sound like something to get. I know in the past when I would run, my shins would sometimes kill me.. I would also like to see how to import a csv file into BT. I tried last week and it did not work, it kept telling me it had to be a csv file and it was. I was not sure if I had to be a member (bronze, silver or gold) to import. |
| 2011-01-03 3:28 PM in reply to: #3273217 |
Veteran 233 Spokane | Subject: RE: A huge, huge thank you guys! mathsgeek - 2011-01-02 6:51 PM Hi all, If I were a radio DJ, I'd have my hyper-excited voice on today, because I have just been in the pool for the first time in more than a year, and I swam 1000m!!!! For those of you who are swimmers, this is not a big deal in the least; for me, it's like winning the athletic lottery! When I started triathlon, I thought that swimming was probably my best discipline. Until I went to a club, and then I realised, I don't have a best discipline. AND THEN...one night at squad swim, where I could barely keep up anyway, the instructor had us do a drill that resulted in a faster swimmer swimming up my back to overtake me. I wasn't confident enough to deal with that, and bailed out of the water at high speed. For a little while after that, I found myself making excuses for missing my swim sessions. It annoyed me hugely, because I knew I was doing it, but kept allowing it to happen. Then I got the mother of all ear infections, and there followed the 3 months of antibiotics and dashing of IM hopes, blah blah. Anyhooooo, I had only been in the pool about twice last year, due to various reasons, so I was concerned that all the mental clutter that came from my frightening experience might still be lurking around in my brain. But, it's not. I had the best time today. Largely, this is because somebody brilliant on this mentor group, and I can't find the post now, said to breathe when you need to, not according to a stroke pattern. The penny dropped for me at that point, and I did the entire swim session breathing comfortably and never stretching myself to hold my breath. Suddenly, it was easy and pleasant to swim. I'm so excited, and so grateful. And I'll shut up now, because y'all are busy people and don't need to read any more of my exuberant babble! A thousand yards after no pool time for a year is impressive, well done. I hear you on not having a best discipline. |
| 2011-01-03 4:07 PM in reply to: #3274921 |
Extreme Veteran 442 | Subject: RE: A huge, huge thank you guys! I will add one more small thought on swimming that might help those that are new swimmers. When you warm-up, do it in stages. During your first 100, only focus on relaxed breathing and proper body rotation. During the 2nd 100, focus on your stroke and kick. Then do a slow 100 to put it all together. I find that just jumping in and trying to put everything together during the 1st 50 only gets my mind racing and my stroke/rotation/breathing totally falls apart. Swimming should be a relaxed, fluid effort....even during hard intervals. Roger |
| 2011-01-03 4:15 PM in reply to: #3275014 |
Extreme Veteran 442 | Subject: RE: A huge, huge thank you guys! Steve/all - when you train for a HIM, what is your longest run and how far out from the race do you normally do it? I will do two Olys during the summer and my long run for those will be 9 miles. After the last Oly, I'll start increasing the long run and plan on 1 - 15 mile run 3 weeks prior to the race. The Oly is on 8/6 and the HIM is 10-29. Edited by bhc 2011-01-03 4:16 PM |
| 2011-01-03 4:41 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
| Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED For me, Roger, I couldn't go into my first HIM this last summer without knowing I could swim, bike and run the distance so my longest run was a 15 miler. I did a bunch of 13.1 milers before hand, too. Two weeks before the race I put them all together and did a 1 mile swim, a 50 mile bike then a 12 mile run. I did them nice and easy and it boosted my confidence going into the HIM. I'm not sure if I did it right or what the experts would say about that, but it worked for me. I had to get to a place mentally of knowing I could accomplish it before I actually did. I'm just weird that way. :) I also didn't follow a prescribed plan, just went with what each day gave me in terms of time and energy. Again, I'm sure that's not the way it's supposed to be done, but for me, a plan is too confining and if I'm not able to do what's written down then I feel like I'm failing. I'm just weird that way, too. It sounds like doing 9 miles for a 6.2 mile race and a 15 miler for a 13.1 mile race makes you a lot like me. ;) It also sounds like you have your last Oly and your HIM a good distance apart. Edited by bswcpa 2011-01-03 4:58 PM |
| 2011-01-03 5:22 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Member 57 Salt Lake City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Hey Gang I just decided im going to incorporate Half marathon training to my run training so i can run the Salt lake 13.1 in April I feel pretty confident i can work that into my training and my way up to that being that the most i have ran now is 6 miles i dont have to much more to go. |
| 2011-01-03 6:12 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 462 Auckland, NZ | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Woohoo! Go Manny, Go Manny!! (Doing that dance thing with the arms in a circle... oh, you know what I mean!) |
| 2011-01-03 6:18 PM in reply to: #3272682 |
| Reston, Va | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Whato - 2011-01-02 4:07 PM bjva - 2011-01-02 9:02 AM STEVE - Missed one thing in my reply... Injuries... I have been fortunate to have nothing major, but have frequently run into issues with my knees starting to hurt when getting into the running. I have always backed down a bit when this happens, and the few times I've asked for advice from a Doctor I've been told that I was being too aggressive on my running efforts. Hence the additional need to make sure I work into this gradually. Cheers! Bob PS - PM'd Lisa! Hi Bob, Glad my post helped. I saw this one and wanted to suggest that knees are very sensitive, so build the time very slow! You'll get more workout time that way. I was the middle distance track coach (for my son's school) for a while. If you're starting out, obey the plan (assuming it was built by a knowledgeable person). Always no more than a 10% increase in time from one week to the next. And, never attempt to increase speed and time together. Additionally, never do your miles running on concrete - ever. Best surfaces in order are: proper track, soft trail, hard, trail, and then bitumen. I never run on concrete - PERIOD. I don think I have a lot of strong opinions, however, running on concrete is crazy, simply, crazy for the knees. Finally, make sure you are landing on the midpoint of your foot not the heal. This is the technique aspect of running and is very important, you cannot run fast, at any distance, if you're a heal striker and produces way more pressure on those knees! Hope this is of some help, Whato Take care, Whato. WHATO - Thanks! Very concerned about the whole knee thing as I always hear of the horror stories. I did my first run today, and was conscious of my landings... What I start to feel in the way of pain is almost heat toward the top middle part of the front of my knee cap. It's definitely distance related... Today I noticed my calves getting tight before I had much of anything in the knees. Anyway, I have copied the above advise into my notes from the thread here... Thanks! |
| 2011-01-03 6:20 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
| Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED You make me laugh, Jac! I'm excited for you, Manny. You can do it for sure! Your race on April 16th is my favorite day of the year - tax season over. I'll be running with you in spirit. |
| 2011-01-03 6:23 PM in reply to: #3274116 |
Champion 10618  | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED MOJOISTAS! last I was on, last night, we had 416 posts; just returning here moments ago.....440. Yikes! I can see I have my work cut out for me, but it'll take some time to make inroads. i spent part of the dau in Ottawa -- gym and swim -- then did a run, shopped, came home to start making dinner (cononut pork stir-fry) for Lynn, and she arrived moments later, full of stories from her cross-country ski weekend. I will now continue to spend some time with her, while also trying to tend to things here, and she will need the computer, too. So, I will move as expeditiously as possible.......but make no promises as to how far I will get! Bear with me, okay? |
| 2011-01-03 6:27 PM in reply to: #3273217 |
| Reston, Va | Subject: RE: A huge, huge thank you guys! mathsgeek - 2011-01-02 9:51 PM Hi all, If I were a radio DJ, I'd have my hyper-excited voice on today, because I have just been in the pool for the first time in more than a year, and I swam 1000m!!!! For those of you who are swimmers, this is not a big deal in the least; for me, it's like winning the athletic lottery! When I started triathlon, I thought that swimming was probably my best discipline. Until I went to a club, and then I realised, I don't have a best discipline. AND THEN...one night at squad swim, where I could barely keep up anyway, the instructor had us do a drill that resulted in a faster swimmer swimming up my back to overtake me. I wasn't confident enough to deal with that, and bailed out of the water at high speed. For a little while after that, I found myself making excuses for missing my swim sessions. It annoyed me hugely, because I knew I was doing it, but kept allowing it to happen. Then I got the mother of all ear infections, and there followed the 3 months of antibiotics and dashing of IM hopes, blah blah. Anyhooooo, I had only been in the pool about twice last year, due to various reasons, so I was concerned that all the mental clutter that came from my frightening experience might still be lurking around in my brain. But, it's not. I had the best time today. Largely, this is because somebody brilliant on this mentor group, and I can't find the post now, said to breathe when you need to, not according to a stroke pattern. The penny dropped for me at that point, and I did the entire swim session breathing comfortably and never stretching myself to hold my breath. Suddenly, it was easy and pleasant to swim. I'm so excited, and so grateful. And I'll shut up now, because y'all are busy people and don't need to read any more of my exuberant babble! Well Done! I am (was) a swimmer and I still think that's excellent! It's hard to get in the pool after that much time away! Dancing definitely in order! You must have gotten super motivated during your quiet New Years celebrations! Cheers! |
| 2011-01-03 6:32 PM in reply to: #3275277 |
Expert 1051 San Jose | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-01-03 4:23 PM MOJOISTAS! last I was on, last night, we had 416 posts; just returning here moments ago.....440. Yikes! I can see I have my work cut out for me, but it'll take some time to make inroads. i spent part of the dau in Ottawa -- gym and swim -- then did a run, shopped, came home to start making dinner (cononut pork stir-fry) for Lynn, and she arrived moments later, full of stories from her cross-country ski weekend. I will now continue to spend some time with her, while also trying to tend to things here, and she will need the computer, too. So, I will move as expeditiously as possible.......but make no promises as to how far I will get! Bear with me, okay? Every time you call us MOJOISTAS I want a drink! Something cold and minty We're doing good, just chatty and inquiring. I swam and ran today and now I need a nap but I think I should probably think about dinner too. |
| 2011-01-03 6:35 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Regular 123 Redlands, CA | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Manny, just noticed you are from SLC, I'm not from Utah but spend more time there than I would like to! (Just kidding!) I was there this weekend (whew--it was cold) and will be back in two weeks. Last year I did one of the tri's at Jordanelle, and I am doing the St. George Runners Series to guarantee entry into the St. George Marathon. I may also do the St. G tri in May, I need an oly about that time for my training plan. Melinda |
| 2011-01-03 6:38 PM in reply to: #3275091 |
Extreme Veteran 442 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Jac - Well done on the swimming. I'm getting back in the pool tomorrow for the first time since Sept and hope to make it 500!! Manny - What are your planned races this year? You have plenty of time to build for a HM Brenda - I've learned, the hard way, that training longer is a great idea for a tri. Those 6.2 after the bike never seem to be as easy as during training. I just don't get the idea that you can ride at a pace that leaves you stronge for a 6.2 unless you are used to going a lot longer. I have in my mind that a HIM is more about pacing and nutrition than an Oly. Do you agree? |
| 2011-01-03 6:41 PM in reply to: #3272814 |
| Reston, Va | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED stevebradley - 2011-01-02 5:43 PM BOB - Those workouts clothes will be easier to get at if the M&ms aren't so darned heavy, so -- gotta do something to reduce the weight (wink-wink, nudge-nudge ). I think the pro of using a bike at the gym is it's better than nothing. The con is, as you say, positioning. Gym ones can result in some good work, but if you can't dig in on them like you can your own, then something is lost. (But still, something is gained!) I have a Kurt Kinetic fuid trained, and I have been very pleased with it, This is it's 10th season or so, and it continues to hold up well. Kurt was new at the time I got mine, and the model I have might've been the one and only they offered, but since then they have become big players in the market. I think thre are at least three models for serious cyclists, so go to their websiet and see what's what. I will hazard the suggestion that the chartreuse model will work well for you; I will go there myself just to see if I'm full of beans about that! As the fluid, they are just quieter than other types. The rest of your household might love you even more if you go the fluid route! Let me know if you don't hear right back from Lisa. She has become a big presence on Facebook and less so here at BT, so if you don't hear back from her in a few days, I'll rattle her cage via email! How amny opairs of windshield wipers did you wear out on your drive back. It poured and poured up here, but hopefully it got more clement for you as you migrated further and further south. Nice pool situation you have! See, I was just out-and-out stupid having my kids in hockey instead of swimming. DOH! STEVE - It rained about half way home, fortunately it was in the morning. I hate driving when it's dark and raining too... but I guess it could have been snow! So... The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly! The Good - Took my son to swimming (yes we stayed away from Hockey thank goodness)... and I managed 1 mile on the treadmill, and 1000 yards in the pool. The Bad - I didn't intend to do that much, but I figured what the heck, I'm here, and I have time... so now I'm exhausted and maybe overdid it a little bit... The Ugly - Got on the scale... Did I mention the M&M's were the peanut kind. Apparently having given up training of any sort, combined with comfort eating, added quite a few pounds. I am up 44 pounds from a year and half ago... worse, 20 of that came in the last 4 months. Anyway, on the nutrition band wagon today too... that was a shock, I'm not sure I've weighed this much ever in my life  . No wonder the skis were so heavy!Checked out the Kurt Trainer... Chartreuse? Is that a color, a model, or a statement!? They have 4 that I can see... Rock and Roll looks interesting? As for Lisa... I think you might need to give her a little nudge for me... She probably gets bombarded with emails! Actually I can forward the message to you too, I didn't look to see if there was a CC function when I sent it... All for now! |
| 2011-01-03 6:47 PM in reply to: #3275277 |
Champion 10618 | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED WHATO - As it turns out, yes, I do know somthting about First Endurance. I'll give you the quick-and-dirty to start with, and then PLEASE ask for more details if you want more info. What I havce yet to try are Ultragen and Optygen. The latter caused quite a stir when it first appread maybe 7 or 8 years ago, and many credible people swore by it; I think many still do. This summer I bought two tubs of EFS powder -- Mild Grape and Tart Lemon-Lime. I REALLY want these to work for me, but so far they do not sit well. The have a killer electrolyte profile, but it might be just that that causes them to be too dtrong for me. One scoipo of powder has 450mg of chloride, as sodium chloride, and 300mg of sodium, alos as sodium chloride. That make s for a fairly salty drink, although what I'm reacting negatively to isn't just the salt, I don't think. EFS also has big amounts of potassium, magnesium, and calcium, so maybe it's almost radioactive. I just don't know. The few rides I disd with it in Aug and Sept left me feeling slightly queasy, so I'm a long way from trusting it for anything important, such as a race. BUT, lots of people rave about, and hoolisa used it for IMLOO and had no ill effects, and in fact felt perfectly taken care of by it. I will continue trying to make to Mild Graps work, but I think the Tart L-L is way too tart; "toxic" comes to mind!  They have two other flavors, I think fruitpunch and tangerine, and maybe I just chose wrong with grape and l-l. Heck, I KNOW I chose wrong with the latter! However, i really like their "gel", Liquid Shot. I put gel in q marks because it doesn't have gelling agents and so is not actually a gel. That is a big selling point for me, as I like my gels looser rather than thicker, and ther's nothing as loose as Liquid Shot. They just came out with Wild Berry, I believe, but up until that there was just Vanilla. I love most things vanilla, and this is fairly true to the flavor. Actually, it tends slightly towards a pure vanilla flavor --- such as comes in a little bottle of vanilla extract! Maybe the First Endurance gurus have damaged taste buds, and so have created everything that seems ultra strong for people with fully functional taste buds. By the way, Liquid Shot also has a terrific electrolyte profile. A downside, maybe, is that it only comes in a flask. Well, ut comes in individual flasks, or big bottles that can be used to fill flasks. But there is not a gel-packet option, which may be a negative for you. On that topic, though...... This past season I LOVED having a flask for my half-marathon......and really wished I had it for my half-iron! I use DeSoto tri shorts with 4 pockets, and the flask fits perfectly in any of them. I now nelieve that for longer races I am much more inclined to use a flask than a gel packet. I think maybe it just gets too difficult for me to open those packets in runs over about 15km, whereas the flask just requires taking it out, yanking on the thingie on top, and gulping away. I am just much more likely to keep myslef topped up with a flask on those longer race-runs. I hope that helps, and let me know if there is more you want to know! |
| 2011-01-03 6:53 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Regular 123 Redlands, CA | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSED Johane have you done Vineman 70.3 before? I will be anxious to hear your race report, Vineman full is my big race for the year. I'm a little worried about it because I'm slow and it has an 11:00 pm cut off. Good luck with your training, you have a busy schedule. |
|
|
|
|
View profile
Add to friends
Go to training log
Go to race log
Send a message
View album
CONNECT WITH FACEBOOK