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2016-01-22 2:48 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by jmhpsu93 Originally posted by Qua17 Hi BDAS - I hope you are all having a great week and getting in lots of great work outs. It's time to check in our goals and think about how we can use the weekend to accomplish what we have yet to get done. So the question is - What are you doing this weekend to move you closer to your goals? Whelp, it looks like I'll be shoveling snow for a few hours on Sunday, as we're expecting two feet here. That will make for quite a core workout LOL. Also looking to get in some trainer time. Shovelling snow will burn off a ton of calories - which means you get to skip a workout, earn brownie points with the wife and drink beer. Where I'm from - they call that winning |
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2016-01-22 3:01 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Here's another link to the BDAS 2016 Spotify Playlist: https://play.spotify.com/user/1228926622/playlist/6JAN0dzh8DfEnsgTIJ... Here are my additions: Take us out/Rudy - If Rudy isn't an inspiration you deserve a CLP The Battle/Gladiator - Listening to this song gets me so fired up Going the Distance/Rocky - Yo Adrienne! Suburban War/Arcade Fire - This is the founder of this group's battle song. Here's to you BigDH Blood, Toil, Tears, and Sweat/ Winston Churchill - It's the only thing I have to offer Hey Joe - This song was playing on the radio following my last long workout before IMMT. It represents getting through some hard times and coming out on top C.L.U/ Daft Punk - Alan's suggestion and the song I listened to on my last set of Hill Repeats before IMMT. 4 hours worth. It got me fired up and thorough Don't Fear The Reaper/ Blue Oyster Cult - Times Like These/Foo Fighters - Listen to this while you run and see what happens with your feet and the beat of the music. Pretty cool Feelin' Alright/ Joe Cocker - I figure as long as I look better than Joe - I'm doing OK Carmina Burana: O Fortuna - Crank this up on a bike ride. It will make you feel like a cycling God Aka Alan AKA The Old Man |
2016-01-22 3:25 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open I still can't get it. If I log off spotify and click your link, I see your name and BDAS 2016. It says log in to listen for free, then if goes to my homepage and I can't find BDAS. |
2016-01-22 3:32 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open #27 with 3200 swim today. It was a tough one with he main set of twelve 100s at decreasing intervals. First 3 at 1:35 (came in around 1:20), next 4 at 1:30 (came in between 1:17-1:20) and last 5 at 1:25 (came in between 1:18-1:22). Now I need a nap. |
2016-01-22 8:12 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
Member 220 Wakefield, Massachusetts | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open I got out of work early today so I stopped by the good liquor store on the way home, the one with all the micro-brews and imports. Oh, the choices... Then I remembered I still owe a CLP for last week, will owe another for this week, and that I had none of that horrible stuff in the house. I have never been so embarrassed to buy beer. |
2016-01-22 8:32 PM in reply to: #5158366 |
193 , California | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open 18/24 with an open water swim at the beach this morning. There is a group I found on Facebook that meets every other Saturday to swim. I have been trying to get over my self consciousness for months now and just go join them. Finally did this morning and met a great bunch. |
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2016-01-23 11:45 AM in reply to: Tavo2311 |
189 Quakertown, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open I know snow shoveling burns calories, but what about walking behind a snow thrower? I have to do some shoveling but it's mostly snow throwing. Before anyone judges me though, it sounds like they are calling for 30+ inches for my area without drifting. Who really wants to shovel THAT? I did my first pass this morning and there were drifts easily over 2 feet. I'll hit it again later tonight before the final cleaning tomorrow morning. No running outside. today. No running at the YMCA today (closed). Gonna have to use the personal crappy dreadmill in the basement. My knee has been acting up again but I'll probably give it a shot. If not then I always have Sunday. This shot is out my back door. I cleared sections of this too for the 4 furry children. Anyone else getting a decent blast of this? (Img_2811.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Img_2811.jpg (262KB - 3 downloads) |
2016-01-23 3:17 PM in reply to: kjvandermolen |
95 Saint Charles, Missouri | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open #25 30 min run this morning #26 60 min trainer ride this afternoon. I am kinda glad that snowmageddon missed the STL area.....this town goes nuts when we get an inch or two....I can't imagine what these people would say with "feet" of snow. |
2016-01-23 3:35 PM in reply to: Snewo |
Member 220 Wakefield, Massachusetts | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by Snewo Anyone else getting a decent blast of this? The storm has finally made it's way to Boston, but they're not predicting much more than an inch or two where I am. It looks terrible outside, but isn't really building up. Stay warm! |
2016-01-23 3:42 PM in reply to: Fourteenkittens |
Member 220 Wakefield, Massachusetts | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open This post is pretty much just for Dave and anyone else in MA. I sat down yesterday with the calendar and mapped out some tentative races. I won't sign up for anything until the spring, just in case vacations or work travel schedules shift on me.
Have you done any of these? With the exception of Nantasket, my normal set of races all land on bad weekends this year. |
2016-01-23 8:07 PM in reply to: #5163126 |
193 , California | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open 19/24 with 5 mile run Saturday afternoon. 20/24 with a 20 mile bike ride to the beach this morning. Sorry for anyone in the northeast!! I will spare you all my pic. I still need to get in a swim today or my goal of 2 swims doesn't happen. How's everyone else's weekly goals coming? -Matt |
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2016-01-23 10:56 PM in reply to: #5163234 |
Extreme Veteran 1648 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open My weekly goals did not work out this week. My parents had three issues so I missed three planned workouts. I did go swimming after skiing today to make up for Friday. I also got in three good walking days being careful with my knee. So I got out there some. Luckily my knee is better. I have not been on a bike yet this year. So, next week my goal is to get my butt on a bike or spin bike. Plus a swim and at least two runs. I'd like to get to yoga too! |
2016-01-24 8:03 AM in reply to: Moonrocket |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open #28 with 5k run Saturday morning. As for weekly goals - a trainer ride today will get me all of my planned workouts. I'm thinking about adding a run this afternoon because I'm .6 of a pound from making the weight-loss goal.
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2016-01-24 2:33 PM in reply to: kjvandermolen |
95 Saint Charles, Missouri | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Goals from this week (updated version that is) 1) lost 1.9 pounds....so .1 off of the goal but still over my goal for the month. 2) All work outs in 3) food tracked everyday. so everything was hit minus the weight loss which for the week was only a 1/10 of a pound off.... |
2016-01-24 2:40 PM in reply to: Moonrocket |
1 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open If there is still room in this group I would love to join! NAME: breich241 / Brandon STORY: Tri rookie - this will be my first. Moderate athlete growing up, competitive in soccer and recreational in volleyball, golf and anything with a racquet. Pretty much gave up exercise after college, focused on career and family and got woefully out of shape. Back and knee pain consistently halted any regular exercise programs. The the love of my life (my wife) decided to take up running with zero experience, and after time inspired me to join along. She introduced me to a foam roller which I credit for saving my life ... started running pain free a little over a year ago and finished my first half marathon in May. Fought a few nagging injuries along the way but now I'm ready to take the next step, a sprint tri. FAMILY STATUS: Happily married 14 years, one son (7) and one daughter (3). My wife picked up running a few years ago and inspired me to start as well. Now she's hard-core runner and kicks my butt in most athletic endeavors, something I'm determined to correct this year :-) CURRENT TRAINING: Signed up for the 16-week 2x beginner sprint plan, which officially starts tomorrow. Have been running, cycling and swimming ~ once per week for the past 4-6 weeks to prepare. After the half marathon had a minor knee injury, then got back to running only to develop achilles tendinitis. This is one of the motivators for switching from running to triathlon, in addition to it just looking like much more fun. Also, I work from home but travel often, so will be constantly looking for ways to continue my training on the road. I know it will be a challenge but doable. 2015 RACES: Kentucky Derby Mini Marathon. As I mentioned, 2016 will be my first triathlon The Plan for 2016: Muncie May Triathlon (sprint), considering Race the Bridge in Louisville (sprint) in June. Beyond that, who knows.... BEER/WINE/BOOZE PREFERENCE: Living in Louisville, KY bourbon is my drink of choice. Haven't found many I don't like but I'm constantly searching If I drink beer I prefer an IPA. Also red wine. WEIGHT LOSS: Currently 5' 9" 170lbs, down from about 190 at my heaviest. I'd like to be 160-165 but more interested in changing the fat-to-muscle ratio than the number itself. WHAT WILL MAKE ME A GOOD BDAS MEMBER: I will give everyone a great forum to provide plenty of insight to a tri rookie. I also hope to educate everyone on the qualities and benefits of a great bourbon. |
2016-01-24 3:49 PM in reply to: adempsey10 |
New user 669 Madrid | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Excellent post! Found it extremely helpful Alan! Great sunday today: started with 40 min bike ride, then 35 min run with my wife and then 30 min swim with my 14 y.o daughter, tri-Sunday! Next week between Lisbon and Mumbai, hope not to relax too much! Juan Originally posted by adempsey10 Originally posted by Fourteenkittens There's a HUGE thread on heart rate training in the general forums (I can't remember what it's called, "220 - Age" something or other). Someone should probably fact check me here, but if I remember correctly you want to be doing the majority of your training in zone 2, around 85-90% of your functional threshold, with occasional hard workouts in zone 4, 95-100%. Your threshold is the average heart rate over the last 20 minutes of an all-out half hour run. I'll also admit that I'm terrible at following that advice, and do most of my runs in the middle. It's so much easier on the trainer where I just do what the computer tells me. -Dennis
This is somewhat accurate. Perhaps its time for a small crash course in HR training since there are many new faces this year. (zone 2 is actually around 65% of LTHR) Basics of HR training: 1) Never use any kind of age based calculation to determine max hr or training zones (e.g. 220-age) HR zones are based largely on fitness and genetics. These kinds of calculations do not work. Don't even worry about max HR. It's incredibly difficult to determine. You have to basically train yourself in order to be able to do it. Most triathletes don't do enough high intensity training to even be able to sustain the kinds of efforts required to elevate the heart rate to max. Besides it doesn't really tell you much (unless you're interested in HR reserve, i.e. difference between resting and max, which is nice but not really useful to training.) 2) There is a difference between running LTHR and cycling LTHR (LTHR = lactate threshold heart rate. It is often considered to be your average heart for a 20 minute fitness test. I'll go into that more below). You use different muscles in different ways during cycling and running and depending on the conditioning of those muscles will determine how efficiently you can process oxygen. Someone who rides a lot but doesn't run very much (like me) will have a better LTHR for cycling than running. 3) To determine zones, a 20-30 min test is usually used. Joe Friel's test (in the Training Bibles) usually wants you to take the average of the last 20minutes of an all out 30min effort. I prefer to take the middle 20 (5-25min region) because people tend to start increasing their output towards the end of a test and this usually skews the average upward a little (when in fact a more accurate reading would skew your average lower). *update* To determine zones from the number you get as your LTHR, you need find a calculator. Personally I like Joe Friel's running zones and Coggan and Allen's cycling zones. If you have Training Peaks, you can plug the number in and it will give you the exact HR values. Otherwise you can google search, 'joe friel's running/cycling HR zones' or something along those lines and find the percentages of LTHR for each zone and work it out yourself. 4) The common practice for endurance athletes is lots of zone 2 work. Joe Friel is a big proponent of this. Unfortunately it requires a significant amount of time and yields very low results. Once you hit about 1.5-2 hours of zone 2 riding/running, there is no point in continuing to do it. Doing 2 hours of Z2 week after week will not make you a better rider/runner. Z2 efforts rely on volume. You need to continually increase the length of time you do Z2 efforts in order for them to have any effect. If you don't increase volume regularly, you'll actually start to detrain and will get slower. Big Z2 endurance plans are really only good for top end athletes who need to eek out the last few watts to reach their physiological potential. Most age groupers are relatively under developed and will see much better results with other types of training. 5) What other types of training? Sweet spot training. The 'sweet spot' is roughly 80-95% of LTHR. This is the best type of workout to do if you are a time crunched athlete (i.e. often have less than 2 hours to ride the bike or run). Start with 10-12 minute intervals keeping your HR in this range. 5minute rest interval in between. Work up to 20minute intervals with 7minutes of rest in between (rest = running/riding easy or zone 1/2). This will yield the highest amount of endurance and speed/strength. 6) Cardiac drift! The problem with HR training is a phenomenon called cardiac drift. This happens when you do a long or hard workout. Even though your speed/power/etc stays the same your HR gradually starts to climb. This is why HR with power (on the bike) or GAP (grade adjusted pace on the run) is most beneficial. If you're using a trainer, you can work around this by get your HR up to the target for the interval and checking your speed or cadence. Once you've done that, keep an eye on HR towards the end of the workout and keep an eye on cadence and speed. If your HR starts to elevate but your cad/spd is the same, don't back off to stay 'in the zone' just keep going. You can do the same on the treadmill for running. As for outdoors, the only way to do this is to use a power meter or GAP running watch. *Grade adjusted pace basically tells you what your pace would be if you were running on flat ground (it uses an algorithm based on the current incline of the terrain your running on, which is usually determined by an onboard alitimeter, and your current pace). It's a bit like power for running because its an objective measurement. 7) Never compare HRs with other people. It's not an objective measure of fitness. Some people operate with very low HRs, others with high HRs. HR is only useful as a relative measurement. I.e. if you run/ride faster at the same HR and your perceived effort is the same, you have gained fitness. If your pace is slower at the same HR than it was a week ago (for example) and your perceived effort is greater (i.e. it feels harder) then you have either lost fitness or are fatigued. 8) Don't bother using HR if you are doing high intensity intervals lasting less than 3 minutes. HR lags behind too much to be of any use in these types of situations. Feel free to ask questions. That's all I can think of for now. |
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2016-01-24 5:05 PM in reply to: #5163248 |
193 , California | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open 21/24 with a Sunday afternoon 30 minute swim. All goals hit this week so a trip for Dogfish Head 60 Minute IPA |
2016-01-24 7:33 PM in reply to: Tavo2311 |
Deep in the Heart of Texas | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open #29 - 35 minute trainer session. #30 - 5k evening run. Relaxing with a couple Blood & Honeys - wheat beer with a hint of honey and blood orange zest. My go to imperial stout was a bit too heavy after a run. Current favorite imperial stout is a seasonal from Founders. At 10.5% ABV, one is perfect. |
2016-01-24 7:59 PM in reply to: Hook'em |
462 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open hey guys i have not forgotten you. I have no power so no workouts. I text dave but my phone had died. No workouts B/C no hot water and all ice, not snow so nothing to shovel. Go panthers! |
2016-01-24 8:29 PM in reply to: Fourteenkittens |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by Fourteenkittens This post is pretty much just for Dave and anyone else in MA. I sat down yesterday with the calendar and mapped out some tentative races. I won't sign up for anything until the spring, just in case vacations or work travel schedules shift on me.
Have you done any of these? With the exception of Nantasket, my normal set of races all land on bad weekends this year. The only one I have done is the season opener - which Jenn is thinking about doing. Let's have a Big BDAS contingent! |
2016-01-24 8:31 PM in reply to: b2b14 |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by b2b14 hey guys i have not forgotten you. I have no power so no workouts. I text dave but my phone had died. No workouts B/C no hot water and all ice, not snow so nothing to shovel. Go panthers! It's true Scott did text me but the whole thing about the workouts is BS... The last text I got from him he was surround by scantily clad women on a beach in Hawaii. Seriously - hope the power come back on soon! |
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2016-01-24 8:33 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
Expert 4269 | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open |
2016-01-24 9:14 PM in reply to: Qua17 |
1941 , Vermont | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by Qua17 Originally posted by Fourteenkittens This post is pretty much just for Dave and anyone else in MA. I sat down yesterday with the calendar and mapped out some tentative races. I won't sign up for anything until the spring, just in case vacations or work travel schedules shift on me.
Have you done any of these? With the exception of Nantasket, my normal set of races all land on bad weekends this year. The only one I have done is the season opener - which Jenn is thinking about doing. Let's have a Big BDAS contingent! I just found out today - from his post that the season opener is May 15th, not Mother's Day weekend like it usually is. I'll be in Brewster for a wedding the weekend before - had hoped to tack the race onto it. Now i will have to see, but it would be great! I don't owe you a Heady (yet), but I'd certainly bring some!! |
2016-01-24 9:17 PM in reply to: Moonrocket |
1941 , Vermont | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open Originally posted by Moonrocket My weekly goals did not work out this week. My parents had three issues so I missed three planned workouts. I did go swimming after skiing today to make up for Friday. I also got in three good walking days being careful with my knee. So I got out there some. Luckily my knee is better. I have not been on a bike yet this year. So, next week my goal is to get my butt on a bike or spin bike. Plus a swim and at least two runs. I'd like to get to yoga too! Glad to hear the knee is feeling a bit better - I know where you're coming from on that! Good for you helping your parents out, stuff happens and sometimes the workout has to be back-burnered. |
2016-01-24 9:27 PM in reply to: aviatrix802 |
1941 , Vermont | Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open So it appears that you now must travel north to avoid the snow.... I'll admit I'm a bit jealous of the snow - the skiing has been dismal here this year. As a matter of fact I have a pass to one of the ski areas and haven't even picked it up yet. Such a weird winter we're having up here. That being said, for those in the eye of this thing please take care driving around. I can't believe I did it this week - I met my random 6 workout goal with 3 days of 2 a day. It was such a busy week I sincerely thought I wouldn't make it. Today I did 2 short trainer rides - one in the morning and one in the afternoon. I couldn't get to the gym due to 2 rounds of priming and a coat of ceiling paint to get up. Definitely ready for this project to be over. I even managed my PT - did 4.5 of them (one was cut short). I guarantee I wouldn't have if not for Dave Q. This next week will be much of the same with painting and staining every waking moment I'm not teaching or preparing a lesson so I'll keep it to 6 random workouts. I have hit my "30 weeks out" on my plan so I will try to work with that as best I can. Oh, due to being on my feet continuously over the last 3 days my ankles resemble oranges. Looks like I'll pull out compression socks to wear tomorrow while I teach class. For the "fun of it" I jumped on the scale and I'm up 2 pounds in the last 2 days so I'm definitely retaining some serious water or just not flushing it through. Time to hydrate! cheers! |
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