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 2011-01-24 8:28 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Master  2094  |  Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSEDI have that video (got it free with my Cycle-ops trainer) I agree it is boring. PM your address and I will send you the Spinnerval video. (unopened, brand new and free) It is not an easy one and should be done only once every 6 weeks but it will give you and idea what the other ones are like. It must be testing week in Slayer-town. I did my 20' TT on the bike this morning. FTP 297. Harvery gets the Nostradamus award since he guessed 300. I also will need to adjust my heart rate zones. The bike interval training has really been working for me. I spent a lot of time with mindless spinning without big improvements. I started the year pushing 220 watts which I thought would be adequate. 300 watts will be much nicer as I start this year. I am scheduled for run testing either later this week or early next week. Keep it up everyone. Edited by pschriver 2011-01-24 8:29 AM |
| 2011-01-24 8:38 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Elite 3495   SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED slokat and peter: great job on the TT's! peter, that is massive improvement! Well done. Master clydes better look out. They/we are on notice! Building your run is only going to smash them/us even more. My 1000TT (8:40+8:51 = 17:31) came down :29! I was pretty pleased that I don't suck as much as I did before. Next up, Wednesday's V02 max bike test. 5 minutes of holy hell! |
| 2011-01-24 10:24 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED wow.... impressive times all around! way to go!! spinning & master's swimming coming up for me so.... as far as swimming goes... before i joined the master's program in January, i used to sort of do my own thing & then swim my target (A race- 1.5k) distance to keep track of time (which i've since lost track of)  BUT! my question is this: how often do you think it's worth while to do a timed swim like that to keep track of your progress?? even though i'm swimming 2 X a week with the group, i'm tempted to go out once on my own (possibly once a month?) just to see how i fare.... |
| 2011-01-24 10:27 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Extreme Veteran 849 San Diego | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED This group is badazz! Nice job on the testing, Slayer! I took a rest day yesterday, which I think I needed. Got lots of chores done and finished a huge chunk of a manuscript I've been procrastinating on and needed desperately to do. I consider it a success. Back on the horse this afternoon for a run with the dogs. Here's the plan for the week: Monday: 6 mile run Tuesday: swim 2500 yards, run 1 hour Wednesday: run 1 hour Thursday: swim 2500 yards, run 1 hour, bike 1 hour Friday: swim 2500 yards, brick: 45 min bike 15 min run Saturday: long ride or long run Sunday: long ride or long run Let's get em this week! |
| 2011-01-24 10:31 AM in reply to: #3317975 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED I think it helps to have a baseline to use to gauge improvement, if thats what you are after. Some folks aren't bothered. It kind of depends on what your goals are. I pay Shanks to help me get faster so he requires these tests be done periodically. He bases workouts on a T-pace that he derives from this test. Mine is now 1:45. If it was down to me, I am not sure I would even bother. I hate swimming uptempo so much. I am fine to just log junk yards. Then its quite therapeutic.... |
| 2011-01-24 11:17 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED hmm.... call be obsessive, but it's the sort of thing i'm curious to incorporate into my workout every now & again, just so i can keep an eye on how i'm progressing swimming with this tri-focussed master's group vs. the swimmer's master's group i was with before.... i guess worse things could linger on my mind on a Monday though, eh?? i'll admit: not really looking forward to tonight's spin class just yet... but i AM looking forward to the swim (& i'm REALLY looking forward to the guinness i'll have with my running group after tomorrow night's run)  |
| 2011-01-24 11:56 AM in reply to: #3317393 |
Master 1843 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED emholli - 2011-01-24 6:49 AM Hi all, Sorry I have MIA ... it was the work thing again. Damn work ... always getting in the way!! If it wasn't for the money thing ... Last week was pretty sh*t ... I managed a swim and that's about it. I was pretty peeved with myself for being so slack and not getting off my butt, but then I just put it behind me (I can't change it) and have moved on. I've promised myself I'll do better this week. I already have. I've been catching up on the thread and, oh my, the depth of info on here has my head spinning. I feel way out of my league ... For what it's worth, I have some compression calf-guards and I love them. I wear CompressSport and I wear them after a run or a bike. Usually to bed. I don't know if it's all in my head (probably is) but they work for me! I also have a pair of 2XU compression shorts, but I am less sold on them. Can take them or leave them. When I went into the store to buy them I spoke to the chick there (whom I know) and told her what I wanted ... the conversation went like this: Me: I want to buy some compression shorts. I'll give them a go. Her: Okay, what brand do you like. Me: Er, I don't know, what do you recommend? Her: Well, what do you wear now? Me: I don't. I don't own any. Her: You don't have ANY compression gear at all? (looks incredulous!) Me: Er (feeling silly), no, I don't. Her: What do you do to recover? Me: Eat food and drink water. You know, like in the olden days? She looked at me then and realised what I silly conversation it was and we both burst out laughing! Hope everyone is well and happy. Have a good week. Em Ha! Love the conversation about the compression gear. Are you sure your 2XU shorts are not just tri shorts? I wear 2XU tri shorts and really like them. I have compression tights and sleeves. The tights are a PITA to put on and they fall down all the time. Not sure they really help me recover, but feel really good squeezing it all in when you're sore. The calf sleeves - same thing. Feel good and can wear them in public in the summer with shorts or whatever and you look like one of the "cool kids". As for wearing the socks or sleeves running as I see lots of peeps do - not for me. Too constricting to exercise in. Edited by Lisa B 2011-01-24 11:58 AM |
| 2011-01-24 11:57 AM in reply to: #3317127 |
Master 1843 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED nicruns - 2011-01-23 10:14 PM & last week was decent for workouts: swim: 2 for 2 complete bike: 2 for 2 complete run: 3 for 3 complete yoga/pilates: 0 for 1 (oops!) but this weekend was an epic fail. i got scared by the windchill & bailed on this morning's run... so far, i'm behind. but i'm hoping i'll be able to sneak a run in at some point to make up for it! & in random and experimental news.... i picked up a $2 bike light set at the dollar store hopefully that will enable me to (legally) bike to & from work a few times as soon as the snow melts and i get up the nerve to see that one through!! Good for you trying out the bike commuting! What will you do about clothes and a shower? |
| 2011-01-24 12:05 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Master 1843 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Last week: |
| 2011-01-24 12:14 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED i haven't made the commute yet! (& i likely won't until... April or May-- or whenever we get rid of all of this darned SNOW on the ground!!!) but i'm lucky. we have shower facilities in the office (& i swiped a locker back when i started in this place & stocked it FULL of stuff to change into & out of when i get motived and run to and from work...) now... i just need to figure out a path that will enable me to miss the worst of the traffic & drivers here in toronto.... (& where to store my bike-- in case i take my road bike, which i likely should....) |
| 2011-01-24 12:17 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED ah yes... the update! all in all... so-so for the week: Mon: spin & swim Tues: run (5k) Wed: run & swim Thurs: rest & the dreaded quarterly meeting Fri: spin Sat: yoga-- skipped due to laziness & a lunch offer Sun: long run-- got spooked by the wind-chill & bailed this week's plan: Mon: spin & swim Tues: run Wed: run & swim Thurs: spin Fri: rest (& dr's appt) Sat: yoga Sun: long run |
| 2011-01-24 12:55 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Actually I was thinking that Em is talking tri shorts too LisaB. THey looked like it on her blog. I doubt there is much compression on them. Wait until you see my heart rate during my tests. It will be as high as you ever see it. I get as close to passing out as possible. Then you get really big numbers haha EDIT to add. I love Guinness! Murphys is even nicer. There was some Bells Double Chocolate ALe that was really nice too. Edited by phatknot 2011-01-24 12:56 PM |
| 2011-01-24 1:42 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Snuck in a swim at lunch. I am back on my HIM build so the swim interval topic is of interest. My coach tested me every 4 weeks to re-establish my T-pace. It helped her plan my intervals. I believe to get faster with swimming you have to really push yourself during the workouts. She had me swimming shorter sets than I did on my own but I would leave the pool trashed after her intervals. I'm a big fan of Black and Tan when done correctly. During the warmer months I do all of my commuting to work via bike or run. At the moment it is mostly run due to weather. I have a shower at work and keep a wardrobe there and at home. It is much tougher for a female (makeup, fashion, hair, ect) but I think it could be possible. |
| 2011-01-24 2:28 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED lol! yup-- i've got a stash of stuff at work (duplicates of sunscreen, cleanser & the other "essentials") & the swimming comment makes sense. we did interval work on wednesday & i was DONE for the next day (but it's nice to know that it serves a purpose) assuming all goes well with the oly planned this year (Sept), i'm hoping to take on HIM training heading into 2012 (for an early July 2012 event) it's definitely the bike that has be concerned.... i'm hoping biking to work will help with that it's just 10k each way... but the way home has a few decent climbs... so we'll see (hopefully that won't be a waste...) but it's a tricky call: to bike that distance or run it. i guess i could always hop off the bike when i get home & get a little brick work in...? (seems ODD to be thinking this far ahead when it feels as though this winter won't end right now!!) |
| 2011-01-24 3:06 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Member 24 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Hey guys, Just a quick message coz I'm at work!! My 2XU shorts aren't tri shorts. Just run shorts. There's no chamois or padding in them. The problem I have with them is that there is no compression through the legs. There is plenty around the bum and the waist (muffin-top anyone?) ... but they just don't help my quads at all. Maybe they're not meant for that? Anyways ... back to work :-( Em |
| 2011-01-24 3:14 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Em Like LisaB I have these stockings by Zoot but you really only could use them for recovery they are so stiff. I think compress sport is coming out with or already have quad compression sleeves that can be used for activity. I have not tried them yet. Has anyone tried the quad compression? Yeah, swim intervals suck. I can do them but I hate them. And your times do drop pretty rapidly. Plus you look really hard to all the others who are swimming junk laps. Shanks comes from a swimming background and takes pleasure in writing me hard swim workouts that I dutifully ignore and swim easier because I am a wuss. However, on the bike, I will smack him down! 5" VO2 max test tomorrow. Lookout! |
| 2011-01-24 8:50 PM in reply to: #3318305 |
Master 1843 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED nicruns - 2011-01-24 1:14 PM i haven't made the commute yet! (& i likely won't until... April or May-- or whenever we get rid of all of this darned SNOW on the ground!!!) but i'm lucky. we have shower facilities in the office (& i swiped a locker back when i started in this place & stocked it FULL of stuff to change into & out of when i get motived and run to and from work...) now... i just need to figure out a path that will enable me to miss the worst of the traffic & drivers here in toronto.... (& where to store my bike-- in case i take my road bike, which i likely should....) Showers are nice at the office and oh so much cleaner and tolerable as the one at Master's swim! I don't know how I forgot it's winter and not the best time to commute on the bike. We don't have snow (except for that one week) and I hate riding outside now! Which I most likely will have to shake by this weekend cause a 2:30 trainer ride (which is bike on my schedule) may be more than even I can endure! |
| 2011-01-24 8:55 PM in reply to: #3318855 |
Master 1843 Roswell, GA | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED phatknot - 2011-01-24 4:14 PM Em Like LisaB I have these stockings by Zoot but you really only could use them for recovery they are so stiff. I think compress sport is coming out with or already have quad compression sleeves that can be used for activity. I have not tried them yet. Has anyone tried the quad compression? Yeah, swim intervals suck. I can do them but I hate them. And your times do drop pretty rapidly. Plus you look really hard to all the others who are swimming junk laps. Shanks comes from a swimming background and takes pleasure in writing me hard swim workouts that I dutifully ignore and swim easier because I am a wuss. However, on the bike, I will smack him down! 5" VO2 max test tomorrow. Lookout! I'm thinking Smack Down should be part of your name! Let's see - Harv's not phat and he throws a hell of a smack down when he he does the SBR! |
| 2011-01-24 9:16 PM in reply to: #3319442 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Lisa B - 2011-01-24 9:55 PM phatknot - 2011-01-24 4:14 PM Em Like LisaB I have these stockings by Zoot but you really only could use them for recovery they are so stiff. I think compress sport is coming out with or already have quad compression sleeves that can be used for activity. I have not tried them yet. Has anyone tried the quad compression? Yeah, swim intervals suck. I can do them but I hate them. And your times do drop pretty rapidly. Plus you look really hard to all the others who are swimming junk laps. Shanks comes from a swimming background and takes pleasure in writing me hard swim workouts that I dutifully ignore and swim easier because I am a wuss. However, on the bike, I will smack him down! 5" VO2 max test tomorrow. Lookout! I'm thinking Smack Down should be part of your name! Let's see - Harv's not phat and he throws a hell of a smack down when he he does the SBR! I had to fix that for you. Harv, What do you do with the VO2 Max results? Do you get a little claustrophobic while you do the test? Is there an MD on standby when you do the test? |
| 2011-01-24 9:55 PM in reply to: #3256691 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Nothing fancy really. I wish I had an ambulance nearby haha but it'll be me in the dungeon on My blade in the trainer. shanks gives me zones based off the 20' test which comes Thursday. Then he gives me progressive intervals designed to improve my max on each. Longer intervals designed to push up FTP and shorter. I'd have to go back into like august and early September to check the actual workouts which are all in my logs.Lisab is correct. Loud fast music is key! No time for anxiety or fear. It's all about sublimation.... |
| 2011-01-25 7:00 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED You guys gotta be crazy commuting. These rednecks in Georgia would run my azz over in a heartbeat! Wish me luck as I go down to possible death in a few minutes. What are you doing today? |
| 2011-01-25 7:29 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Master 2094 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED I really don't accept that excuse. The Georgia "Crackers" are no worse the our SC mountain "Hillbillies". I will try and upload some pictures latter. Almost was was run off the road a couple of days ago by a logging truck proudly flying the Confederate flag. I think he was hunting Canadians who come down here to train during this time of year. I refuse to tell the story about the Canadian women cycling team that I met last year. I got in in a short run-to-work commute this morning. Edited by pschriver 2011-01-25 7:31 AM |
| 2011-01-25 8:36 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
| Extreme Veteran 479 | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED lol sounds like quite the story, i'll bet!!  hopefully my fellow country-women were polite & shared the road... ! good luck with the test today! for me, i've got a 7k run planned for after work (followed by that ever-important guinness!) murphy's is great... but i take what i can get!  & one of the women i swim with was telling me about a group that does workouts on or with (& i'm sorry b/c i'm about to massacre the name of it!)--- cyclometers, or something like that?? the contraptions/devices that measures your power/wattage on the bike ? (am i even remotely close on that??) apparently all i have to do is call them up & i can take in a free workout with their group. SIGN ME UP! not sure when this will happen... but it will be interesting to have SOME sort of a measure of where i'm at on the bike right now especially since my road bike & i are completely untested!! |
| 2011-01-25 10:15 AM in reply to: #3319884 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED We love Canadian women, especially athletic ones, on the Slayer mentor thread! Good work you guys. Results are in. 398/161/94 (avg watts for 5 mins, Hr, and cadence). This is up 6% from last year's preseason test but down 7% from pre-Augusta/IMFL test. Slayer has some work to do. http://tpks.ws/0nvO You can compare back to my previous VO2 max tests listed on my page if you want to see how it changes. I listed them in the middle box. I am really dreading the 20' test on thursday. Makes me even look forward to the 5k TT on Saturday just to not have to go through that again.... I am all for you lot saving gas and running/cycling to work. Forget about me doing it. Our office is right near the mall where the most accidents in a 13 county region take place. I can't afford to be injured and out for very long. As we can see with our fellow triathletes, its tough missing any time due to injury, weather, family stuff. I'd drive myself even more batty. |
| 2011-01-25 10:42 AM in reply to: #3256691 |
Extreme Veteran 849 San Diego | Subject: RE: Not phat? Phatknot SLAYER - CLOSED Swam around 2500-3000 yards today and managed to maintain a 2:05/100 yard pace. That's good for me. I have a lot of work to do on my swim. Ran about 3.5 miles with the pups after the swim. Now it's off to a long day of mosquito dissections in the lab. Good job, everyone! |
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