kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2011 Part 2 - CLOSED (Page 195)

maybe it was about rotation, I have no idea

Slept until 7 this morning.  Packing and double checking everything is in race shape today, oh and working too.  Kids are taking their costumes to school and having a parade today so I'll have to sneak out to see that. 

Had a small bombshell dropped on me at work yesterday.  My immediate supervisor is changing from the VP of Ops to the CEO.  Not a huge deal work wise, but he (CEO) and I don't communicate well.  He tends to deal with service issues and complaints very franetically and with a false sense of urgency.  I tend to be very reserved and subdued and try to calmly work through the issue and not stress out everyone involved.  Should be an adventure. 

Morning, all.  I got in a decent run this morning and then plan on hitting the gym for weights and a swim tonight.  Might bail on the swim if I'm not feeling it.  It seems to be the sport I get burnout from the most.  I'm building my run volume back up slowly until I get to 35.  I'll hang there for 6 weeks or so and then bump up to 40 and keep it there for the remainder of the season. 

How much do you all decrease volume during a recovery week?  I have read several different things, but I'm curious as to what you all do. 

Depends on what life throws me that week: depends on what you are training  for .  For my 5K plan, its like 20%, but for a marathon plan its like 50%.  Essentially all of the reduction in volume for my 5K plan is cutting the long run, since everything else is either a recovery run or a variant of speed work.

As I tell Jeff -- every week is a recovery week for him.  For me it not just a cut in volume but also a change in the type of training (removing intervals and stregnth work).  Last week was the last week of a build week and I did 21 hours of S-B-R (for the first two weeks of the build i did 19 hours and 20:30).  This week is a rest week (not taper but a pure rest week) and I'll be ding 10.5 hours of S-B-R. 

Bought it with the hang on the door feaure and use it at home.  Its a pretty nifty piece of equipment. 

I'm building a solid run base until Jan. while keeping the half marathon distance in mind (I'm starting a more aggressive HM plan in Jan. to get me to sub-1:50 in May).  Right now I'm running 5 days a week (1 long, 2 easy, 1 steady state, and 1 with hill sprints).  In 4 weeks I'll be running 6 days a week.  I don't plan on doing any serious speedwork until after the New Year.  Volume over speed for now.  So, how much do you think I need to reduce during my recovery week?

As an aside, I walked one day last week for about 30 minutes or so at a brisk pace.  Took my pulse, and it was 88.  LOL 

I would pick a half or full marathon plan and just follow it.  Youre one of those "plan people" anyhow.  I personally like the Higdon plans, but RW (Bart Yasso) and others have good plans.  they all end up being something like: Monday, recovery run; Tuesday, medium long run; Wednesday, rest/Xtrain; Thursday, tempo run; Friday, optonal recovery run; Saturday, Medium/fartlek; Sunday, long run.  Ideally you only want like 20-30% of volume from your long run.

Kelly, some day you will say: now i get it jeff-y.  I promise I wont say i told you so.... much.

I detected the disdain, too.  LOL  Hey, a plan from this site got me a sub-3:00 olympic finish in my first year of triathlon (and I'd only been running for 11 months and cycling for 7 months total...ever...in my life), a year after I delivered my fourth baby.  I think they're really helpful for some people, especially people new to triathlon (or one of the 3 sports, for that matter).  Different things work for different people.  That's what makes training so complicated and interesting.

I'll be following a 20 week HM plan from RUN FASTER (start in Jan.), and I'll be following Friel's HIM plan from his new book YOUR BEST TRIATHLON, which actually allows for a lot more creativity than some of the other plans I've looked at.  We'll put the plan theory to the test next year.  I'm shooting for a top 10 finish in F 30-34 at Half Rev Cedar Point next Sept.  I'm about 99.9% sure I'll accomplish that goal.  Guess we'll see if the plan pays off!      

I love to have a training plan.  I do move things around during the week depending on what I have going on with work or family things.  Although with a 21 year old, and 3 fairly well trained dogs, and an awesome husband, there's not much that gets in my way family wise.  Work is very unpredicatble however.  But I need something to follow so I don't have to come up with it myself.  It also helps with motivation for me, I feel bad if I miss a workout that I have on my "schedule" so it gets me out the door.

Having a plan for a trip, that's a different thing.  I do not plan ahead for anything!  I'm typically up at 4am packing for a flight that leaves at 8am.  It drives my husband crazy.  He plans, makes lists, packs, double checks, plans some more.  Not me, I just go with the flow.

Be Iron Fit book has been a great training for IM.  I've used Hal Higdon for marathons before, and liked it too.  Just give me a plan and I'll pretty much follow it.

Thanks

Crazy how different the top 10 women's times were for the 3 disciplines in 2011.....some had wicked fast bikes and slower runs....others rode slower and ran faster....most posted pretty average swim times....

Only time will tell if my goal is too aggressive, but it never hurts to aim high.   

i didn't do a plan this year, i didn't follow them anyway when i downloaded them the last two years, so there is no point of me having one.

I think for some people they work great and others not so much, to each their own.

If you follow a plan you dont have ADD, you are merely a follower. 

Own what you are!

Plan people, pod people... same thing!

Seriously, Following a well thoughtout plan is good.  The problem for me is I generally work 60-80 (or more) hours a week, am a father of 2 young children with lots of activities, a husband, have meetings in the evening for various non-profit or professional activities, etc.  Thus, when a plan tell me to go run 8 miles on tuesday because that is the ideal time to do so?   I have to laugh.  I am in bed at 10 and up at 4:30/5 AM evey day of the week but have no time for anything. 

When I dont have to work or deal with my family I will follow plans more closely as they do work.  Until then, i'll do what i do.  Thus, its not disdain, its jealousy regarding the amount of time folks have to devote to something that is enjoyable, whereas most of my life is spent in drudgery or taking care of people.