NBA Finals- Celts/Lakers (Page 2)

Kobe racks up stats against a watered down league.....

Huh?  In the first two series, Boston was 8-0 at home, 0-6 on the road.  Seems like home court means a great deal to them. 

Ouch!  we got spanked, Kobe was a no-show, and except for Odom and Gasol (and Fish, a little bit), everyone else stayed in LA too.  Celt's D was good, but I think Kobe could easily have had a 40 point night if he could get some ez shots to fall.  Very unfriendly rim.

Rumor I heard was Pierce was faking it (I don't buy it).

Gotta love Old Cassell, still running his mouth and swarming all over the ball.

chadtower - 2008-06-06 6:28 AM

ChrisM - 2008-06-05 7:55 PM >Hmmm, since 2000, have been 7th in league in attendance (except one year 8 and one year 9, last 5 have been 7). Even with a 30 something win year. seems pretty consistent to me

 

We all know attendance in LA has nothing to do with an actual fanbase. Wasn't it you who recently said that most of the people in the arena are wealthy folks there for the status because average fans have been priced out since the early 80s? Someone did but I can't find it now.

Nope, wasn't me.  I was actually referring to Scott's statement that Laker fans don't show up to the game, nothing to do with fan base.  Although I hate to let facts stand in the way of a good headline (like, Laker fans don't show up in losing seasons, Bush stole the election, etc)

I doubt he was faking. He may have overreacted, but Pierce has a rep as a stand-up guy.

I'm starting to believe that the NBA is about as real as professional wrestling. That was no where near "real" basketball last night. I actually got nauseated watching the refs make calls for the crowd. Watch, the same thing will happen in LA. The Lakers will get all the calls and every little ticky touch foul will be called on Garnett and Pierce like Kobe in Boston.

Bad officiating. I agree completely.  Part of the problem was the Lakers settling for jumpers instead of going to the hoop, but the officiating was pretty bad.

Yeah, I was pissed at the point where it was, what, Celtics FTs to 2 Lakers FTs?   But Lakers won't get the calls if they don't work for them. 

Lakers showed last night that they are one of the most inconsistent yet most dangerous teams.  Perhaps, had they gotten just 2 more shooting fouls, they would've stolen last night's game.

What do you have to back up the "every series" statement you made?  Do you have some statistics showing home vs. away fouls for every series this year, or have you watched all the games?  Or none of the above?

It doesn't matter what other people are saying. So the entire home-court advantage in the NBA is because of the officiating. I wonder how on earth the Celtics managed to get two wins in Detroit. They must have paid the refs, I suppose.

I'd love to see a summary of a game you've read, say, a Toronto vs. Orlando game, where it spoke of the home-court bias of the referees.

check out the officials that are scheduled to ref the games, most lines between two very even teams are derermined by who the officials are.. or at least once they know who is officiating it the last few spread changes are made off that.

  there are even lines on each individual official per team.. the NBA doesn't list far in advance which official is for different games, but it's been a long term trend that whenever a home team could usually use a win the officials doing the game are either ones that are swayed by a home crowd more easily or the home team has a better record with those particular officials. 

This is a far more sensible statement than a blanket statement saying that every series through the entire playoffs is a homejob.  The above, I can buy.  Refs are human, and it's unrealistic to think that none them are intentionally or otherwise swayed by a home crowd.

Right, and this is completely different than saying the NBA intentionally plants referees to ensure that series go at least 6 games.  Sorry, just not buying the vast conspiracy theory.