Discrimination in Boy Scouts (Page 2)

So you believe that acting on heterosexual feelings is a choice then?  I can guarantee you that it is not choice.  You can believe that 3+7=15 as much as you want, but it is not true.

I'll give you this scenario here.  Remember there is always a child listening and watching what you do.  What do you think it does to a kids psyche when you tell them that someone cant do something because of who they are?  That they are a not permitted to do that?  You don't agree with their moral convictions? (so you don't believe in committed loving relationships then?  Because that's what I am in).  Honestly do you think that is good for the child who is confused and doesn't know what to do?  I remember many times coming home and crying alone feeling worthless and depressed and feeling suicidal myself.  Mostly because of actions of adults that were so hurtful. 

Think about that for a moment. 

It's actions like this why the suicide rate for LGBT+ community, especially youth are alarmingly high. 

I am not asking nor do I want any sympathy.  It is a part of my life that now makes me stronger.  It doesn't mean that it doesn't matter for the kids going thru it right now. 

So I should be able to start an organization that wont allow black people to join?  Because I don't believe in them?  (I know this sounds absurd, that's because it is).

Your google skills must be better than mine, because I come up pretty empty. The courts, including SCOTUS, have been pretty good to the BSA over the years (with the exception of the molestation lawsuits). About the best the ACLU has been able to manage is to get some goverment offices to quit giving BSA free usage of public lands. 

So then don't join the boy scouts.

Just out of curiosity, why do you personally feel that a gay person is unqualified to interact with children? What are you worried about?

Really?  I don't know what to think of a parent who decides who can interact with their children based on sexual orientation.

"Wow, that teacher (coach, scout leader, neighbor, uncle, aunt, blah, blah, blah) is excellent!!  I guess we better check to see if he/she is gay".......is that the way that goes?  I guess it's really the only way it could go, right?   How weird.

so again, what the heck does that have to do with sexual orientation?

So don't enroll your kids in boy scouts.  Someone doing something that you don't like isn't a reason to ban everyone like them from the organization. or at least its a crappy reason.

especially when you "moral belief" is a load of crap.  Get over it, the country has finally accepted it.  If you want to teach your kids that we should discriminate against people for being loving, you have your priorities all kinds of screwed up.  Look at the world around you.  People murder, and rape, and do terrible things.  What you have a problem with is love? I'm glad my generation hasn't decided to order their priorities this way.

You won't say what you are eluding to.  That homosexuality is a choice which it is not.  It does not matter what you believe.  What you are discriminating against is no different then what was done to black people (and many others).  I agree that different people have different morals, but my morals don't include discrimination.  Lucky for people like me, the majority of the country is on the right side of this debate. 

No, it's "lucky" for al of us, Justin, gay and straight. It makes for a more polite society.

To the OP - as a parent of 5 kids, all older than yours, I'd be careful which "morals" you pass on to your kids.  Growing up believing (after being taught) that being gay is a choice will make them look rather stupid to the rest of the thinking world, when they express those ideas as adults, down the road.. 

The other thing you might want to consider is that people will respect you more if you just come out and say what you mean and not hide behind a moral agenda that doesn't hold up in any sense of the definition.  I know that, as a parent, I don't think people who do that are qualified to be around my children.

so you will ban scout leaders who have premarital sex.  how will you find out? how is it any of your business?